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Why does eating healthy not make a difference to how I look?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created July 10, 2012 at 6:21 PM

I'm so frustrated, I've been eating so well, a million times better than most people and I still have bad skin and dark circles, it's not fair, I see people eating junk food and they have great skin

I'm so sick of hating mirrors, I think I was secretly afraid to eat well and exercise in case it didn't work so I sabotaged it, thinking oh well at least when you sort out you're diet you'll be ok, and now that I have and it's made no difference I don't know what to do

It would be ok if I hadn't been alone for the last 5 years but I'm getting a bit scared now that there's nothing I can do about it

31381cfeb5d6da6fc75f80ab68e041ea

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on July 11, 2012
at 11:03 PM

that's definitely true in my own life. when i am depressed and stressed and not sleeping much, my skin sucks. but i can eat crap if i am happy and stress-free and have great skin. the mind and the body are one.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

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on July 11, 2012
at 09:26 PM

Those are Judgements, More Butter Please, not observations, as you intended.If you want to make an observation then state what you see, hear, smell etc. Telling someone they are "full of self-loathing" & "have an abysmally poor self-image" is a judgement. Its a critism and to me it comes off like you think he is choosing to be that way. Like his issues with body image are a choice. I dont' know his history like you. Still observations and suggestion are helpful. Judgments are not. Im concerned about BDD for this person & that is not a life choice. If you later suggested therapy, good.I agree.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

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on July 11, 2012
at 09:24 PM

That is a Judgement More Butter Please, it is not an observation. If you want to make an observation then state what you see, hear, smell etc. Telling someone they are "full of self-loathing" and "have an abysmally poor self-image" is a judgement. Its a critism and to me it comes off like you think he is choosing to be that way. Like his issues with body image are a choice. I dont' know his history like you. Still observations and suggestion are helpful. Judgments are not. Im concerned about BDD for this person and that is not a choice. If you later suggested therapy, good. I agree.

5e63e3fa78e998736106a4a5b9aef58c

on July 11, 2012
at 08:43 AM

Crowlover: My observation that he is full of self-loathing, has a abysmally poor self-image, and bases his flimsy happiness and sense of self-worth on his appearance is due to his cumulative posting history. It's all there. He's obsessed with his skin and lets its condition run his life and dictate his feelings about himself. Diet's not working? Maybe it doesn't stand a chance due to his massive, self-inflicted stress! I'm not making him anxious; he's doing that to himself--which is why I recommended therapy in a later comment. Now go scold someone who actually thinks they might deserve it.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 11, 2012
at 07:08 AM

More Butter Please - What the hell. How is that helpful? If you are going to make a young man, who says he is anxious, MORE ANXIOUS, how about you just don't say anything? Not helpful. Be nicer and think about other's feelings. This is the internet but people have feelings. –

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

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on July 11, 2012
at 07:04 AM

MOre Butter Please - What the hell is that helpful. Are you kidding? If you are going to make a young man, who says he is anxious, MORE ANXIOUS, how about you just don't say anything. Not helpful. Be nicer and think about other's feelings. This is the internet but people have feelings.

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on July 11, 2012
at 06:12 AM

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5e63e3fa78e998736106a4a5b9aef58c

on July 11, 2012
at 05:33 AM

Yeah, at this point I think some help from a therapist might be the thing. HuntingBears, you're obviously hurting--that comes through in your posts. But you're constantly posting about your skin and the appearance of your face, and how horrible you believe you look, and how changing your diet for the better hasn't worked. You're obsessed with it, and are letting the condition of your skin rule your emotional life to a degree that is in no way healthy. And since emotional stress can cause skin problems, please consider getting help in dealing with those emotions.

5e63e3fa78e998736106a4a5b9aef58c

on July 11, 2012
at 05:20 AM

Getting into a relationship won't solve your problems--you'll just drag all your problems into the relationship. Sure, you might temporarily feel better about yourself, but since you're insecure about your appearance and your self-image is shit, eventually all of that shittiness and self-loathing will surface again. You give so much power to what you see in the mirror, and you insist on only seeing the bad stuff--so you're the one raising your own stress levels and keeping them elevated, and feeding your anxiety, and keeping yourself locked in this cycle.

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on July 11, 2012
at 12:28 AM

I am on the same boat HuntingBears. Anxiety that causes skin issues or skin issues that cause anxiety.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on July 10, 2012
at 11:46 PM

Good luck on the date. Don't think so much.

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on July 10, 2012
at 11:34 PM

Thanks for the replies, I have a feeling it's all related to anxiety, I may be going on a first date in years with a girl I really like and I constantly feel this hotness in my chest and I can't stop worrying, next thing I know I'm having trouble sleeping and my fatigue is worse than ever, also my skin looks bad and i have digestive problems. I feel like if I could get into a relationship a lot of my problems would subside but they are the exact things stopping me from getting there!

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on July 10, 2012
at 11:14 PM

I just did my research and found out that you're a male in your mid twenties. Do you have low testosterone? Do you wake up with morning wood? Do you get stiff when you think of something erotic without actually having to have you or someone else touch you? If you answered yes to those two, then at least you can rule that out. If you answered no to either them, then at least you have a probably cause and it would be worth seeing an endocrinologist about.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

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on July 10, 2012
at 10:02 PM

lol. ewwww Im soo scared.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on July 10, 2012
at 10:01 PM

Oh gosh, don't say that out loud. That just cost you like 5 automatic down votes ;)

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on July 10, 2012
at 09:47 PM

180degreehealth.com

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

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on July 10, 2012
at 09:25 PM

Not sure about that but thanks. I know a bit and always looking for me answers. Iv'e learned a lot on this site and from you!

31381cfeb5d6da6fc75f80ab68e041ea

(560)

on July 10, 2012
at 09:25 PM

thanks crowlover! i feel like i am always that woo woo voice on ph lol

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on July 10, 2012
at 09:03 PM

I think you know more about supplementation than 99.99% of the population.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on July 10, 2012
at 09:02 PM

My multi does not have iron! And I take D3 in the winter time. I monitor my levels and always test within range (skewed toward the higher end). On the weekends I'm outside all day long, and I get out in the morning and late afternoon during weekdays. I get also take a 45 minute lunch break outside in the around 1PM. So...I get enough sun! Don't take vitamin K because I use a pastured butter on sweet potatoes and whitefish, and I force myself to eat a lot of kale.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on July 10, 2012
at 09:01 PM

I think you know more about supplementation than 99.9% of the population.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on July 10, 2012
at 09:00 PM

My multi does not have iron! And I take D3 in the winter time. I monitor my levels and always test within range (skewed toward the higher end). On the weekends I'm outside all day long, and I get out in the morning and late afternoon during weekdays. I get also take a 45 minute lunch break outside in the around 1PM. So...I get enough sun! Don't take vitamin K because I use a pastured butter on sweet potatoes and whitefish, and I eat a lot of kale.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 10, 2012
at 08:11 PM

What about D3 and K vitamins foeveryoung? Also, I hope your multi doesn't have Iron.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on July 10, 2012
at 07:03 PM

I agree with this. Look into some targeted supplementation. I don't take as much as Crowlover, but I do follow a Wahls-style diet and supplement with r-ala, coq10 (ubiquinol) and creatine. These are my favorite supplements for all around general health and well being. Aside from that I take melatonin, a zinc-magnesium supplement, and a multivitamin, which has some more antioxidants in it (but not EGCG or resveratrol/GSE, which I personally avoid)

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

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on July 10, 2012
at 06:41 PM

GReat answer Rebekah :D

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on July 10, 2012
at 06:36 PM

Takes time. For me, I spent 30 years doing all te wrong things. It took about three years of clean living to really change myself

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 10, 2012
at 06:29 PM

Razwell you sure do spend a lot of time here for someone who hates is. Why are you wasting your time.... if your resources are SO AMAZING why are you so mentally ill?

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1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

on July 10, 2012
at 06:32 PM

Haven't you asked this question before? Also, eating well and exercising do make some difference, but it's not everything. Reducing stress, having a reliable source of income, socializing, and physical contact should not be neglected as important factors in overall health. Also, your bags under your eyes- who gives sh***? I have no clue what your gender is, but just put some make up/concealer over it if it really is "the blight of your life" that you just can't get over. You're way better off than hundreds of thousands of other people with actual life threatening and/or debiliting illnesses, diseases, and disabilities. you should be thankful for that. I hate to say it but a lot of it is a maturity thing. I'm pretty immature for my age, but one thing I realized is that no body looks like an Aristotelian Form, and it is precisely their deviations from that which make them subjectively perfect to someone else. That is a universal law, and that is why my answer now is the same as it was when you last asked this question. Self confidence is always attractive, and self loathing never is. Just accept your foible for what it is, and realize it's not really a negative at all.

Real world example = moles. I've had a couple moles removed before because I didn't like them, and now I have two small scars (one beside my bell button and another on my back) but my last girl friend had a mole on the side of her lip. She didn't like it but never got around to getting it removed because it wasn't cancerous (it is the same color of her skin). I loved that she had it cause it was another thing that made her slightly different from everyone else. She said I was the first person to ever tell her that I liked it, and I couldn't believe how someone couldn't! Unfortunately, as I said I'm an immature person and messed that relationship up, and it's actually sad to think no other girl I'll meet will have that mole. Everyone's got something though. Someone's probably going to love your dark circles too.

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31381cfeb5d6da6fc75f80ab68e041ea

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on July 10, 2012
at 06:37 PM

i would recommend seeing a therapist to help you sort out your true, root fears, and also start plugging into some things that remind you that life is about more than your struggles. volunteer, play club sports, tutor children, go to church... something that reminds you that others need you here and they need you healthy. good luck!

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

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on July 10, 2012
at 06:41 PM

GReat answer Rebekah :D

31381cfeb5d6da6fc75f80ab68e041ea

(560)

on July 10, 2012
at 09:25 PM

thanks crowlover! i feel like i am always that woo woo voice on ph lol

31381cfeb5d6da6fc75f80ab68e041ea

(560)

on July 11, 2012
at 11:03 PM

that's definitely true in my own life. when i am depressed and stressed and not sleeping much, my skin sucks. but i can eat crap if i am happy and stress-free and have great skin. the mind and the body are one.

5e63e3fa78e998736106a4a5b9aef58c

on July 11, 2012
at 05:33 AM

Yeah, at this point I think some help from a therapist might be the thing. HuntingBears, you're obviously hurting--that comes through in your posts. But you're constantly posting about your skin and the appearance of your face, and how horrible you believe you look, and how changing your diet for the better hasn't worked. You're obsessed with it, and are letting the condition of your skin rule your emotional life to a degree that is in no way healthy. And since emotional stress can cause skin problems, please consider getting help in dealing with those emotions.

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4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

on July 10, 2012
at 06:33 PM

Very frustrating... sorry

Couple of things.... I personally am a strong believer that many of us (me) need not only clean diet, sun, exercise, sleep, happiness etc but also SUPPLEMENTS.

Are you certain you do not have Leaky Gut?

Astaxanthin has really helped my skin but I take a hefty dose 10mg twice a day.

I also take hearty doses of other antioxidants as this worked for lowering my Tpo from 500 to 30 and I continue on them: R-la, Ubiquinol, Lycopene, and a bunch of high antiox "spices" (turmeric, cloves, cinnamon, EGCG, garlic).

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on July 10, 2012
at 09:01 PM

I think you know more about supplementation than 99.9% of the population.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on July 10, 2012
at 10:01 PM

Oh gosh, don't say that out loud. That just cost you like 5 automatic down votes ;)

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 10, 2012
at 10:02 PM

lol. ewwww Im soo scared.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 10, 2012
at 09:25 PM

Not sure about that but thanks. I know a bit and always looking for me answers. Iv'e learned a lot on this site and from you!

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on July 10, 2012
at 09:03 PM

I think you know more about supplementation than 99.99% of the population.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 10, 2012
at 08:11 PM

What about D3 and K vitamins foeveryoung? Also, I hope your multi doesn't have Iron.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on July 10, 2012
at 07:03 PM

I agree with this. Look into some targeted supplementation. I don't take as much as Crowlover, but I do follow a Wahls-style diet and supplement with r-ala, coq10 (ubiquinol) and creatine. These are my favorite supplements for all around general health and well being. Aside from that I take melatonin, a zinc-magnesium supplement, and a multivitamin, which has some more antioxidants in it (but not EGCG or resveratrol/GSE, which I personally avoid)

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on July 10, 2012
at 09:02 PM

My multi does not have iron! And I take D3 in the winter time. I monitor my levels and always test within range (skewed toward the higher end). On the weekends I'm outside all day long, and I get out in the morning and late afternoon during weekdays. I get also take a 45 minute lunch break outside in the around 1PM. So...I get enough sun! Don't take vitamin K because I use a pastured butter on sweet potatoes and whitefish, and I force myself to eat a lot of kale.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on July 10, 2012
at 09:00 PM

My multi does not have iron! And I take D3 in the winter time. I monitor my levels and always test within range (skewed toward the higher end). On the weekends I'm outside all day long, and I get out in the morning and late afternoon during weekdays. I get also take a 45 minute lunch break outside in the around 1PM. So...I get enough sun! Don't take vitamin K because I use a pastured butter on sweet potatoes and whitefish, and I eat a lot of kale.

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on July 10, 2012
at 09:06 PM

Most women wear makeup that hides anything like dark circles or blemishes regardless of diet. I suspect your take on others would be different if they weren't wearing any. Before freaking out, visit a makeup counter and see if you feel the same way with a bit of professionally done makeup. My particular skin issue got slightly better, but didn't clear up completely with a better diet, and I finally got some decent properly matched foundation that covers my rosacea, and I feel like a new woman. If you have been wearing makeup, and having acne, make sure you are replacing it often enough, and cleaning or replacing your brushes and applicators often because the bacteria that collects on those can cause acne all by itself even with a perfect diet.

Dark circles are also often hereditary, look at your family, do they have dark circles too.

If they don't, look into food sensitivities, and try an elimination diet to see if there is an improvement. You can eat what looks like the perfect diet on paper, but if it doesn't agree with your particular physiology you can get things like dark circles and acne.

Also, are you getting enough sun, enough exercise, enough sleep, and enough sexy fun times (even if it is solo), all of those impact your skin too?

One more thought, are you getting enough vitamin C. I found that it was really easy to come up short on the C with a basic paleo diet if I didn't seek out specific sources of it. Skin and small blood vessel repair depend on vitamin C, and a lack of it could cause some of what you are experiencing.

The being alone thing is about confidence and opportunity, not your skin, so work on whatever you need to do boost your confidence, and make sure you are actually out there actively meeting new people and the rest will fall into place.

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on July 10, 2012
at 07:49 PM

Listen to Rebekah. It's awesome that you are loving yourself enough to eat right! You are on the right track. When you figure out that the negative voices in your head are the problem (not the dark circles or acne) you will be a happy camper. The best way to do that? Get busy and quit worrying about yourself. Worry about someone else. Volunteer. Best of luck to you!

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on July 10, 2012
at 06:34 PM

Life isn't fair.

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on July 10, 2012
at 08:00 PM

Diet doesn't always help with skin problems. For some (not necessarily Paleo) tips on dealing with dark circles, check out this page: http://makeupalley.com/user/notepad/Marsen

You would also get a lot of recommendations if you posted here about your other skin problems: http://makeupalley.com/board/j.asp?bid=6

Keep up with your clean eating! You will see so many other benefits from it.

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on July 10, 2012
at 06:25 PM

Because all of this is a SCAM. Obesity is as genetic as height. Voluntary factors do not affect body weight much. Stick to DR. LEIBEL, DR. JEFFREY FRIEDMAN, NOT THIS SITE'S ASSHOLERLY.

Razwell

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 10, 2012
at 06:29 PM

Razwell you sure do spend a lot of time here for someone who hates is. Why are you wasting your time.... if your resources are SO AMAZING why are you so mentally ill?

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