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Why am I zinc Defficient?

Answered on September 27, 2014
Created September 17, 2014 at 10:53 PM

I love meat! I eat it everyday! But I have a zinc defficiency and cannot for the life of me figure out why. My skin gets dry and chicken bumps form all over. My zinc levels were low, but I can't understand why. I havent eaten any grains for months exceot white rice. I don't like supplements because I like to rely on my diet. But if Imy skin blows up and I can't sleep at night, my nails get weak.  I want to get to the bottom of this. I take vitamins A,D and K2, and mageniusm when I feel stressed ocasionally. I don't know if it's copper or zimc, and my primary care dr refuses to give me a blood test.

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on September 23, 2014
at 09:56 AM

Copper's easy enough to get.  Dark chocolate, and liver are wonderful sources.  Also there are some zinc supplements that come with enough copper to balance them out - not perfect if your balance is off, but great once it is in balance.

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on September 19, 2014
at 10:54 AM

Thanks for rememebering that!!! Yeah, but sometimes life happens and I don't get enough sleep, but not too often!

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on September 19, 2014
at 10:53 AM

I'm not doing the night shift anymore thank goodness! I usually get atleast 7 hours of sleep a night and have amber tinted glasses now...but even without my glasses I can falll asleep by 10 or 11 and wake up at 7

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on September 19, 2014
at 10:18 AM

Hey Creative, are you still doing the night shift (or did I misremember that)?  If so, how are you coping with the weird schedule and lack of sun?  Maybe play with the lights so when you wake you expose yourself to very bright blueish light, then later when you want to sleep, more reddish/yellow light?  Maybe even get some lights that give off a little UVB?

 

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on September 17, 2014
at 11:02 PM

I'm also worried that maybe I'm actually coppet defficient. I have weird tastes in my mouth, low sex drive, skin issues that flare up randomly...I know I get zinc, and my zinc levels were low a year ago...but I don't believe so anymore...what if I actually don't have enough copper? Is this possible?

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96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on September 18, 2014
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Try a zinc tally test AKA zinc challenge.  This is a liquid form of zinc that you'd put a few drops of on your tongue and taste.  If you notice no taste at all, i.e. just like water, then you need zinc.  The stronger the taste, the less zinc you need.  It's not a perfect, acurate test, but better than nothing.

 

Zinc deficiency is usually caused by poor stomach acid, which in turn causes further stomach acid deficiency as zinc is required for HCL and HCL is required to extract zinc from the meat we eat.  You might try to supplement with Betaine HCL and see if that helps.

 

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on September 18, 2014
at 09:46 PM

I'm goign to do that zinc test! I tried HCL last year and I took up to 8 pills and felt no burning sensation...wouldn't everyone that is sinc defficient have low stomach acid? Once stomach acid is low...isn't it like irreversible without supplements...cause it's hard to digest meat and such...I feel like it can't be fixed naturally...

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on September 18, 2014
at 10:08 PM

I feel like anyone that becomes zinc defficient would never be able to produce HCL and since HCL is needed to then absorb zinc...wouldn't they just be stuck forever if supplements wern't invented...this seems extreme...I feel liek if this were the case anyone or anytime someone became zinc defficient...if they didn't supplement they couldn't fix it...unless there are non-protien easily absorbed forms of zinc that doesn't need stomach acid...you know what I mean? I know your body can leach zinc from bones and such...but if that were the case then it would do it enough to break down meats to get zinc...but that doesn't seem to be the case...maybe it's just so defficient it can only break down some food and minerals but we don't get a lot...so it takes a while to fix defficencies?

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on September 18, 2014
at 11:49 PM

Could be something like H. Pylori, if it is, you're gonna need antibiotics to get rid of it, though if you want natural, mastica gum can help.  Still, you'd need a test for this.  The zinc/HCL thing is fairly easy to fix. Take Betaine HCL and supplemental zinc, and in a few days it resolves itself.

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on September 19, 2014
at 12:32 AM

I don't think it's H Pylori! I took mastic guma a while ago and it didn't do anything

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on September 23, 2014
at 01:23 AM

I did the zinc test with liguid zinc and I barely tasted anything. It was unpleasent or anything...so I'm guessing i'm defficient and I have no idea why! I love meat, I eat it daily red meat especially!

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on September 18, 2014
at 02:14 AM

I always had keratosis pilaris on the tricep area of my arms in my teens and twenties. I noticed once I started eating liver weekly it went away. I think it was the vitamin A but I suppose it could be something else in the liver. Liver also has copper and zinc in it, two things you are worried about.

Also, I never get acne or canker sores anymore since starting the weekly liver. 

As far as the sex drive goes, Vitamin A is necessary for normal steroid synthesis and even a mild deficiency can significantly reduce P450scc activity (1), an enzyme responsible for the conversion of cholesterol to pregnenelone (2)

I've personally found that the trick to making liver taste good is getting it as fresh as possible. I get a frozen one and I feel like they must freeze it quickly once the animal is killed (but I'm just guessing) because it has a mild and pleasant taste. I had another one from the store that was unfrozen but packaged that day and it tasted aweful. Chris Masterjohn talks about this in an article (3

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on September 18, 2014
at 10:18 AM

Yeah! I bought some chicken livers and as much as I try to convince my self that it tastes not so bad, it's hard for me to get past the taste! I've been taking 10,000 iu of fish derived vitamin a, and 5,000 iu of vitamin d since summer ended. I also always took 3 teaspoons of cod liver oil a day, but still had all the same symptoms...which makes me think my body wasn't utilizing. I'll have to force myself or pinch my nose for those livers!

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on September 27, 2014
at 02:06 PM

I'm deffo zinc deficent according to the zinc taste test I took. I got some HCL and I guess only time will tell. It's only been about a week and my skin is already smoother and I'm able to handle stress a lot better, well shut it off quickly! Low stomach acid and zinc deffieincy is an epidemic that I think a lot of people don't know about...and unless you have good stomach acid genetically...I don't think there is any way to naturally fix it unless ACV 

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on September 23, 2014
at 03:53 AM

meat is not a 'massive' source of zinc, esp when compared with shellfish.
two examples from nutritiondata showed 174 gram beef steak with 14 mg zinc & 191 gram beef steak with 19 mg zinc.
here are a couple of nutritiondata searches on foods high in zinc;
1. Foods highest in Zinc per 100 gram serving
2. Foods highest in Zinc per 200 calorie serving

also, i know you mentioned that you do not take supps, but just a side note in case you plan on taking any iron containing supps,
best not to take the iron supp with any foods that you want to get your zinc from...
the reason i mention this is because in supplement forms, iron & zinc compete for absorption (tho this does not seem to be the case with dietary iron & zinc).
so to be on the safe side keep any iron supps away from your 'zinc' foods.

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on September 18, 2014
at 11:21 PM

Who says you are zinc deficient? How does your diet tally up? 

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on September 18, 2014
at 11:23 PM

I eat meat everyday, but still don't seem to be getting enough. I eat no grains but white rice. My nails are weak and britle, my hair dry skin dry and terrible, good tastes blah. I go to the bathroom great though! 

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on September 19, 2014
at 01:31 AM

Cronometer.com for a month. Do it. :P

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