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How long to fix Vitamin A deficiency?

Commented on March 24, 2014
Created March 23, 2014 at 1:19 PM

Hey everyone! So...my body has healed pretty well...except for my keratosis pialris! I inly eat some white ruce now...cause I need a lot of carbs, with my body type and was kind of starving without enough carbs on paleo...I still haven't really figured out how to eat enough calories without using butter or downing cans of coconut milk...but that's besides the point.

Anyways! So...I started taking fermented cod liver oil and that helped but wasn't enough, and then I took a vitamin A supplements and my skin transformed along with paleo/primal. But I stopped taking my supplement for about a month and bing! my bumps came back...I know these vitamins are fat soluble...but can they really deplete that quickly...or in my mind...I feel like I was just starting to rebuild my stores enough that when I stopped they depleted right back...does this make any sense?

Cause if i'm defficient and I take the Vitamin A, my body is going to gobble it up cause it needs it so much instead of storing it away...it's like sugar right? If your body can't use it...it will store it, but if it needs it badly it's going to gobble it up, right!?

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on March 24, 2014
at 08:25 PM

Yeah, I saw another "Dry A" version, two years ago, from vitamin shoppe, I think, that was actually mostly beta-carroteen, hence the comment about avoiding dry A.

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on March 24, 2014
at 02:18 AM

Too easy to eat a bit of liver now and then than to hunt down legit supplements!

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on March 24, 2014
at 01:50 AM

"...I'd be weary of supplemental vitamin A though, I've never had luck with it"

I wonder if that may be because nearly every Vitamin A supplement uses a synthetic form. You have to really dig deep to find a natural Vit A supp...if it's natural, the label will declare it, ie. natural Vitamin A from fish liver (or something similar).

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on March 24, 2014
at 01:36 AM

I rarely have Cronometer register 100% Cu for me, I'm often in the 150-200% zone with Zinc however. I know the effects of Cu deficiency in livestock and it's not dissimilar to what I've experienced myself. And of course, the RDA only is the average amount that folks need… it's certainly possible I have a higher need for Cu in my diet, particularly since my Zn consumption is rather high naturally.

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on March 24, 2014
at 01:04 AM

Though I have doubts that it is the copper. Copper is widespread in foods, and I also have personal experience with macro-doses as my mother used to cook preserves (tomato sauce) outdoors in a large (30 gallons or so) copper pot. We used that tomato sauce all year. I had acne, and symptoms of zinc deficiency, until I moved out. Eventually, after I developed an interest in nutrition and understood what was going on, I got her a steel pot.

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on March 24, 2014
at 12:42 AM

That's retinol, so it's the "good stuff", I'd be weary of supplemental vitamin A though, I've never had luck with it. Eat a little liver (2-3 servings a month) and that's enough vitamin A to fix what ails you.

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on March 24, 2014
at 12:40 AM

You don't need tons of liver because while carotenes are converted to retinol in small amounts, dietary sources of carotenes is generally high enough to prevent vitamin A deficiency.

KP is keratosis pilaris, overgrowth of keratin that results in rough, bumpy skin.

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on March 23, 2014
at 10:32 PM

half a pound a month! that is less than one serving per week, but it is also a lot less retinol than the body needs (according to the RDA). And what is KP, if you do not mind?

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on March 23, 2014
at 09:07 PM

Yes, beef over chicken liver… chicken liver helped, but my KP didn't really heal until I used beef liver. Doesn't take much, maybe 1 pound over a month to start, half a pound a month after that.

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on March 23, 2014
at 07:19 PM

wow! Liver is probably a great source of copper...beef over chicken liver, right? I'm so much more optimistic about my skin now that I know how to control it and what my body needs. Screw all those drs that said KP was not cureable!

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on March 23, 2014
at 03:43 PM

I was taking this form http://www.solgar.com/SolgarProducts/Dry-Vitamin-A-5000-IU-Tablets.htm? Isn't it pre-formed?

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on March 23, 2014
at 05:41 PM

Depletion varies. If you have a high need for vitamin A (retinol), you can quickly deplete any stores. We do have a limited amount of ability to absorb vitamin A (retinol) and beta carotene. You might consume 1000% of vitamin A (retinol) in a day, but that doesn't mean you absorbed all of that.

I don't know what you supplemented with, but carotenes, in my experience, only prevent overt vitamin A deficiency, hardly enough to be optimal though. Levels to reduce KP are quite high, and beta carotene just doesn't cut it.

Also look at Copper consumption for KP, KP is not caused by a single deficiency. For some, it's vitamin A… myself I noted a more pronounced effect with highly bioavailable copper sources.

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on March 23, 2014
at 07:19 PM

wow! Liver is probably a great source of copper...beef over chicken liver, right? I'm so much more optimistic about my skin now that I know how to control it and what my body needs. Screw all those drs that said KP was not cureable!

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on March 23, 2014
at 02:23 PM

They shouldn't deplete that quickly, and, being that they're fat soluable, they can be stored in fat and released as you burn off fat.

Be careful not to overdo vitamin A, the best way is to also take some D3. Make sure your A isn't "dry a" or "beta carroteen."

On the upside, you now have a built in testing mechanism, right? If you stop taking it, you get bumps. so take the supplemental A daily (or however often you've been doing) along with D, then a week later, try to remove one of the doses and see if any bumps show up, if not, remove another day, and repeat until you find your level.

You could also eat liver a few couple of times a week, so you'd get the B and other vitamins too.

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on March 23, 2014
at 03:43 PM

I was taking this form http://www.solgar.com/SolgarProducts/Dry-Vitamin-A-5000-IU-Tablets.htm? Isn't it pre-formed?

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