I have tried low carb paleo, zero-carb paleo, no starch paleo, and I am currently trying the autoimmune version of Paleo. I am 20 days in and I still see no improvement. Has anyone had any type of success with rosacea? If so, what worked for you?
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on June 15, 2011
at 03:12 AM
Even an extremely strict diet has not cured my rosacea. My current hypothesis is that it has a strong infectious component, perhaps c. pneumoniae. cpnhelp.org explores this microorganism in much detail as the underlying cause of many, especially autoimmune diseases, including rosacea.
The only reason I have yet to try the multiple antibiotic approach advocated by that site (to address the multiple stages this bacteria can transform into) is that I've been either pregnant or breastfeeding since shortly after diagnosis, and these medications are not suitable for that situation.
If this hypothesis is correct, it would explain why Oracea works for some people, but not all, and not completely -- it only attacks one stage of the bacteria's life cycle.
Anecdotally, some people seem to get relief from heavy supplementation with lysine, which, incidentally, also has been shown to inhibit the growth of c. pneumonia. I just started trying this, but can't tell if it's helping yet.
on June 15, 2011
at 03:54 AM
Yes I have had facial rosacea for over 17 years, some of that time it was so bad that I was ashamed to attend social events especially where people didn't know me. Over the years I used both Metrogel and Finacea to try and keep it under control, and I paid close attention to my sun exposure and strictly limited alcohol and ate non-spicy. Still, I would get sores on my face pretty regularly, and in the last decade one of my nostrils became a painful little "rosacea center" out of which seemed to stem all of my outbreaks.
But Paleo/GAPS has entirely eliminated my using any meds, and I can eat very spicy food or drink alcohol now with no rosacea flare after. The first few months of eating Paleo, the rosacea came and went without any pattern. I didn't know if it was getting worse or better. Then it disappeared, and has not come back. That was over 4 months ago.
My diet includes lots of fermented foods, like sauerkraut, kimchi, and raw lacto-fermented salmon. I take 3-4 grams fish oil per day plus 8000 IU Vit D3. I also find that taking HCL/Bentaine with meals has been helpful to the point where I don't need it as much now. The derm shook her head, especially on hearing that I eat many of the foods that used to really aggravate my rosacea. It feels good because I assumed I had this condition for the rest of my life.
Besides the diet, I've been getting a lot more sleep, too.
on June 14, 2011
at 07:50 PM
Paleo itself will not be enough to take most cases of Rosacea into remission, unless you have an extremely mild case. The vast majority of people need to take some combination of low-dose doxycyline (Oracea) along with some mild topicals like Finacea or Metrogel (Finacea is the best in my opinion) as well as light treatments (Red LED 660nm and/or IPL)
Paleo can help control some of the underlying inflammation which exasperates rosacea flares and papules.
Some have seen Vitamin D help them, but others have reported that it causes more flares, so test this out for yourself. One guy in particular claimed to cure his rosacea by keeping his Vitamin D blood serum levels about 100ng/ml for a couple years, but no one else has shared his success. I'd be careful supplementing too much D too quickly.
Here are some great resources on that topic:
Often the following are recommended as well:
Zinc, Magnesium, Lactobacillus reuteri supplements, Lactoferrin
Gentle cleansing and moisturizing (I like the toleriane line) is key too, i wouldn't try to just wash with water if you have rosacea.
If you are out in the sun alot, you may want to dabble with some astaxanthin (8-12mg/day) for natural sun protection, as well as a topical green tea serum with high (90%) polyphenols which acts as an alternative to chemical based sunscreens.
In the end, I think IPL is the best treament, because it treats the underlying vascular problem, and once you have your diet and lifestyle dialed in you should no longer need light treatments, or perhaps only once every couple years for maintenance.
If you live near Phoenix, AZ than there is no one better than Dr. Soldo who is the leading IPL practitioner for Rosacea in N. America.
on June 14, 2011
at 07:39 PM
Yes, I feel and see objectively that low-carb/paleo eating has made a difference with my rosacea. Like some theorists, I believe that rosacea falls within the autoimmine spectrum of disorders. Thus, I view anything that causes inflammation as being bad for my rosacea.
HEAT is a big, bad deal for me. I have been markedly heat intolerant since childhood. Frankly, my ideal sleeping temp would be about 45 degrees! I minimize hot drinks and typical spicy/hot foods that heat me up ---->flushing. I do believe that the blood sugar leveling effects of low carbing have been very helpful. I never exercise over 30min as it will simply lead to overheating --->bigtime, intense facial flushing. Cutting out wheat/grains entirely was a huge help, as well as soy. I have been a low-carber/ancestral eater since 99. I had other marked inflammatory symptoms and autoimmune disorders. Over about 3 years, in the beginning, these all vanished. And the rosacea improved. When I added low carb pasta, low carb bread and some soy pancake mixes back into my diet in 06, it took several months, but serious symptoms re-emerged. I stopped them all again and over several months, symptoms again vanished.
AGAIN, I added the same as above in late 09 into 10 and this time I had a mild resurgence of previous symptoms, BUT, for the first time ever, I suddenly woke up one AM with the OCULAR rosacea from hell. Very bad. It has taken me a year to tame it down now and I am about 98% ocular symptom free now. Needless to say, there will be NO more experiments with occasional grain based food/soy.
Like most roasacea sufferers, I have also tried many, many skin products/systems. I now faithfully use Eucerins sensitive skin redness relief soothing cleanser with natural licochalcone (Glycyrrhiza Inflata Root Extract) which is a licorice root extract with skin soothing properties. Nothing else, cleansing wise, touches my face. And I also faityfully use Eucerin's redness relief daily perfectin lotion (all sutiable for males or females) and the soothing night cream. I have actually noticed a remarkable difference with the continuous, 24hr/day use of these products.
I live in a southern state and love to garden and am outside a good bit, so am religious with sunscreen facial protection, but do get some sun. I have been impressed with how quickly my face responds to the above named products after being outside, or after exercising to the point of flushing.
My facial rosacea was ballistic on the SAD prior to 99. Sleep has also been helped by my diet and I also have found things like magnesium/zinc which are calming and helpful to me for sleep as well as just daily living.
on June 15, 2011
at 02:47 AM
This is anecdotal - My wife had a severe case - it is all gone now. But the magic is being consistent and persevere. it took her 11 months before it went away forever (hopefully)
on June 14, 2011
at 07:09 PM
My Rosacea is improving on Paleo, but it takes time- after several months I'm seeing notable improvements, but it's not all gone. What I've found is that Paleo alone will help, but the going is slow. Additional supplementation to help heal my gut (I'm Celiac) while staying Paleo has recently accelerated the results.
What's worked for me:
-doubled my daily dose of D3 to 8000 IU
-upped my B supplements and now take them sublingually- you can also get shots sometimes at health food stores like www.henrysmarkets.com if you're in the area. Google it otherwise.
-Became more strict about taking digestive enzymes with HCL at every meal. I use Now foods super enzyme tablets- the capsules tend to stick in my throat...
-Started Zinc & Selenium Supplementation
-Good Whole foods based multi-vitamin
on June 14, 2011
at 06:49 PM
I know most dairy products and powders such as whey or creatine make it worse for me. I've recently heard trying mint free toothpaste can help but haven't tried it yet.
on December 03, 2013
at 06:50 PM
Wow, I'm glad I found this post! I have had rosacea since I hit 30 (seemed to appear almost overnight). Dermatologist wanted to do laser surgery which I very quickly said no to. A sinus infection that wouldnt go away one year forced me to take a different type of antibiotic that just happened to clear up my skin, although temporarily.
So glad to see a possible solution that doesnt require misuse of antibiotics or other extreme measures! Thanks guys!
on December 01, 2013
at 01:33 AM
I was diagnosed with rosacea in 2008, my symptoms happened almost overnight, I sufferer with extreme facial flushing which extents to my ears and neck, I have found that this condition has almost ruined my social life as my main triggers are alcohol, temperature change and emotions. The embarrassment of a flushing episode while with friends or even just in public was horrendous and caused me to become a almost recluse while trying out a cocktail of different oral and topical medications to try and relieve the condition, which I now believe made everything worse. I stumbled across a news article on these Demodex Mites and done a little research, after digging around for a couple off days I decided to try the Permethrin (scabies treatment) and Crotamiton (itch relief cream) approach, it has been a couple of weeks now of applying the Permethrin cream morning and night and the Crotamiton cream two to three times throughout the day and I can say the results are quite impressive and would say as much as fifty percent reduction in intensity and frequency of episodes, the burning ears that I would get like clockwork every evening lasting up to three hours only affects me maybe once or twice a week and the intensity in manageable, with the three hours or so that it use to last now maybe fifteen to twenty minutes max. I am continuing this approach till hopefully the symptoms are non-existent.
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on May 01, 2013
at 04:34 PM
I believe the Paleo diet has alleviated if not eliminated my Rosacea. My case might suggest that by eliminating inflammatory foods such as grains, nut oils, and dairy, I have eliminated the inflammatory response my skin had to an overactive immune system. I wonder if it might have also reduced the autoimmune response responsible for Rosacea. Here's my story.
I had suffered from a red rash that forms on both sides of my nose and causes irritation in my right eye for about 10+ years (since I was about 23). It seemed to flare up when my body was physically stressed. For example, it would flare up after intense workouts or a lack of sleep or a night of drinking; and it would last for days or weeks at a time depending on how stressful my lifestyle was at the time.
I had great success in treating the rash with over-the-counter hydrocortisone creams. Daily application had kept it bay for a couple of years now. However, over the last couple of years I have developed very bad heartburn and came to discover that hydrocortisone has many negative side effects including heartburn. I made this discovery at the same time I started my paleo diet and crossfit weight loss regimen.
So, after being on Paleo for a week, I stopped applying the hydrocortisone. The heartburn went away almost immediately, and 3 weeks later, still no rash and no heartburn! Typically my Rosacea would return in a matter of days after stopping the hydrocortisone treatments. And I repeat... it's been 3 whole weeks without a flare up. I've also been doing some pretty intense crossfit workouts about twice a week which would normally cause a flare up.
I know everyone is different and it's not like I performed a statistically significant medical study, but I believe Paleo has worked for me in this regard. I wish everyone the best of luck in finding a diet that suits your needs and possibly has some unexpected benefits!
on December 10, 2012
at 09:27 PM
My experience has been similar to Aimee's. I went Paleo about one month ago, and my roscaea has cleared up significantly. However, I also cut out caffeine and spicy foods (at the request of my dermatologist) simultaneously. My plan is to continue with the Paleo diet, but to reintroduce spicy foods and caffeine independently and determine their effect on my roscaea.
Has anyone noticed an effect from these things?
on December 10, 2012
at 04:38 PM
I'm a 29yr old female, sufferring from Pustular Roscaea for 10 years. I've seen numerous dermatologists, endocrinologists, cardiologists, etc, to deal with my health problems, all with NO success. For the past three months I've been on the Paleo Diet with complete success! I am so astounded at the results that I want to share it with everyone. Although I know that we are all different, this diet has changed my life!
After just one week, my rosacea was GONE. Completely. It's unbelievable. I do a lot of research and I think my rosacea was connected to SIBO - Small Intesistine Bacterial Overgrowth. I've been following the Paleo Diet for three months now and for the first time in ten years my skin is actually white again!!! Unbelievable. I don't know if I'm allergic to all of the preservatives/food additives, or if it is simply a wheat allergy, but either way I want to share my discovery with other people suffereing from Pustular Rosacea, because it is such an extremely painful and embarassing condition. Please try this diet and see if it works for you. It really changed my life!
The diet is as follows: only fresh meat/poultry/eggs, fresh fruit, fresh vegetables, and nuts.
For the first week I felt very weird and always hungry (I used to eat tons of whole wheat foods..) but after that I felt amazing! If you are sufferring from rosacea and are looking for a natural cure, this is worth a try. Believe me, you understand, I will totally give up eating processed foods if it means I will have normal skin. It's worth a try. I hope it works for you, for eveyrone!