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What symptoms do you associate with different non-paleo foods?

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Created May 16, 2011 at 4:06 AM

I've noticed that certain non-paleo foods have specific effects on my body. I was wanting to compile a list of these, so that when I encounter certain symptoms, I know what exactly is harming me. For example:

When I eat too much sugar (fructose?) I get weak, sleepy, and slightly nauseous about an hour afterwards.

When I eat gluten, I spend the next day with a sort of bathroom anxiousness. By this I mean that I constantly feel like I need to evacuate my bowels, and spend the day on and off the toilet.

Yogurt makes my stomach gurgle about 45 minutes after eating it. Cheese (in large enough quantities) makes me nauseous several hours later, even waking me up in the middle of the night. Yes, this even applies to goat and sheep's yogurt or cheese.

Do you experience similar symptoms, or something different? Are there any symptoms you associate with high omega-6 intake?

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on May 20, 2011
at 01:02 PM

I bet the Chinese food had MSG. That stuff kicks my ass completely, starting in an hour or two and lasting about 24 hrs.

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on May 17, 2011
at 07:18 PM

2 days later, I'm still joint-sore/stiff, stuffed up (altho it's fading), and puffy. I gained a total of 4-5 lbs from my cookie experiment, whether in water weight or fat I'm not sure, but it's also going away.

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on May 16, 2011
at 04:59 PM

interesting, i don't have a huge gluten intolerance, but i have noticed that eating it gives me an almost immediate slighty sore throat these days. For a while i wondered if it was just in my head, so interesting to hear about the hoarse voice.

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on May 16, 2011
at 10:47 AM

When I eat anything with a high sugar content I get an instant headache and get a little cranky a while later. If it is close to bed time i don't sleep well and that affects the whole next day.

When I eat gluten my belly gets bloated and my bowels change.

I can eat small amounts of dairy and be ok. Large amounts keep me in the bathroom.

And any of these things close to that time of the month just magnifies the affects and if I just have a little I tend to lode self control and binge and then I get those nasty PMS symptoms. If I successfully avoid sugar/gluten/dairy then I have none of those negative PMS symptoms

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on May 16, 2011
at 04:15 AM

If I drink a bunch of soda, instant headache.

Any gluten (even like one or two tempura prawns) I have pretty much instant IBS.

I haven't really been keeping an eye on my attention/sleep/energy levels since I spend so much time in front of the computer working from home, but those other things I notice REALLY FAST!

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on May 17, 2011
at 07:05 PM

Background: I figured some background info might be useful to help people see where they fit in on the symptom spectrum.

After a long bout with some pretty nasty symptoms including severe mal-absorption, I found out about 6 months ago that I am severely gluten and soy intolerant.

Ever since then I???ve been very strict with my diet and have eliminated pretty much all processed foods. I???ve been keeping a log correlating diet and symptom occurrence -maybe a little (or a lot) anal, but my whole family are scientists and engineers!

Here???s a list of my most strongly supported diet-symptom correlations.

GLUTEN: -Itchy, hot, swollen sutures (the area joining your bone plates on the skull) on my head within 1hr of exposure

-Pain in joints, especially knee with previous damage/surgery

-Sharp headache behind my right eye

-irritability and foggy thinking

-Flatulence (dose dependent)

-Diarrhea/loose stool 6-8 hrs after exposure with undigested food

-Swelling of several Chondroid Lipomas in my legs to double their size

-Loss of hair- especially noticleable in eyebrows- one day its there, then I get exposed and the eyebrows get itchy ??? next thing you know, there goes a large part of the outer 1/3 of the brow??? :(

-Exacerbates any acne

-Sharp pains/tenderness along cartilage areas of ribs

SOY: YUCK. -Constantly tense muscles, especially in the shoulders and neck, leading to severe headaches and migraines.

-General muscle and joint pain all over body- feel like I???ve been hit by a truck- also failure to heal muscles normally after workout.

-Irritability (probably cause I???m hurting all over!)

-Sinus swelling and major congestion

-Swelling of several Chondroid Lipomas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chondroid_lipoma) in my legs up to 4x their size

-Noticeable swelling of fingers and feet (rings get tight)

-General itchiness all over body

DAIRY- My only vice that I???ve been trying for a while to find a way to include- alas- it???s not to be :( -Minor Flatulence

-Acne- large pimple without fail within 6 hrs of consumption of raw or pasteurized cows milk , some minor acne with goats milk. Probiotic supplementation and digestive enzymes had helped majorly here to clear up/reduce, but only milk avoidance truly clears up my face.

SUGAR- I haven???t really splurged much, but higher amounts of sugar containing foods do have an effect on me: -Slight Irritability

-Background headache

-Make me hungrier throughout the day

-sinus congestion

QUINOA(saponins): -Diarrhea w/in 12 hrs

GUAR GUM- DANGER! DANGER! -extreme flatulence

-painful bloating and abdominal cramping

-horrible diarrhea -I Included my experience and links in this thread: http://paleohacks.com/questions/4077/do-i-need-to-worry-about-the-guar-gum-in-my-coconut-milk/38227#38227

MSG -slurring of speech (sounds like I???m drunk)

-slow/fuzzy thinking

Omega 3 to 6 ratio -Very painful menstrual cramps if I let the ratio get too out of whack to the n6 side. With supplementation of Cod liver oil and careful removal of seed oils, also monitoring Nut/seed intake I have had non-painful periods for the first time in my life.

This change may be also due to other factors, but I was focusing on altering this ratio pre-Paleo changes, so the correlation seems pretty solid and seems to also be supported by what I understand of the mechanisms of prostaglandin formation/action.

Thanks to everybody else for posting- it???s really interesting to see everyone???s responses and compare them to my own experience.

??? -H

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on May 17, 2011
at 12:29 AM

Dairy doesn't seem to bother me but sugar makes me hungrier and gluten makes me super tired almost immediately, my ankles swell, and I'm more prone to acne.

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on May 16, 2011
at 07:16 PM

After three weeks of clean Paleo eating I experimented. I tried a little beef and brocolli from the local Chinese fast food restaurant. I came down with an instant headache that persisted well into the next day and kept waking me up in pain off and on for the night. Since beef and broccoli are fine it must be from the soy or other sauce ingredients used in the wok.

I just this morning tried a "reduced fat" fruit and nut/seed scone. I know it's not the fruits, nuts, or seeds but the gluten is clearly a major issue (though I never knew before). Within a few minutes I developed an upset stomach and shortly thereafter diahrrhea. The cramping and bloating is getting worse, not better and it's been nearly three hours. And this is from one modest-sizeed scone that only weeks ago would have been a typical treat I might have from time to time!

I've tried a little blue cheese here and there. No issues with that. A few bites of a flourless chocolate cake and ice cream at a special event didn't cause any issues either.

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on May 20, 2011
at 01:02 PM

I bet the Chinese food had MSG. That stuff kicks my ass completely, starting in an hour or two and lasting about 24 hrs.

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on May 16, 2011
at 05:07 PM

My daughter has always been lactose intolerant and after going off gluten, she's able to tolerate the lactose. However, if we cheat - as we do a couple of times per month, she notices the gurgle from lactose creeping in when she eats gluten.

Both of us experience breakouts on our face if we have gluten - within a few hours.

We have no problem with cottage cheese but do have issues with other dairy.

I found that my tummy hurts after fried eggs but not after eating hard boiled or scrambled eggs.

I suspect my knee issues have something to do with diet given a few responses above but I can't confirm that yet.

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on May 16, 2011
at 03:57 PM

Deep fried "battered/breaded" food - IBS, gas/bloat, greasy skin/acne

Dairy Carbs - Sinus congestion, constipation, gas/bloat

un-fried grain-foods - gas/bloat, IBS, joint pain

Sugar (and most "white" starches) - Lethargy, nausea, gas/bloat, joint pain

Legumes - Gas/bloat, greasy skin/acne, lethargy, joint pain

Veg/Proc Oils - IBS, Gas/bloat

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on May 16, 2011
at 02:49 PM

Certain oils will make my hands puff up and I feel like my knuckles are stiff for 3 to 4 hours. I'm not exactly sure what the culprit is, but it sucks, and it's usually when I am being polite and eating someone else's food prep. This is what makes me suspect the "vegetable" oil. I have to drink almost a gallon of water and take extra Cod Liver Oil or Fish oil to get it to go away. I never noticed it until after eating clean for a long time.

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on May 16, 2011
at 02:42 PM

When I eat non-paleo foods over an extended period of time (ten days or so) I just get old.

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on May 16, 2011
at 12:49 PM

If I eat the "wrong" type of oils, I better be close to a bathroom.

Sweeteners (diet drinks) give me headaches.

Sugar/carbs in excess make me want to eat everything in sight. Sugar also seems to coat my mouth and make me feel like I need to brush my teeth immediately. If I eat sugar on an empty stomach, I get an intense headache accompanied by "brain fog."

Grains make me feel like I've tensed up: I get pain in my joints (mostly knees and elbows), my neck gets sore, I can't stop clenching my jaw, and this eventually leads to a tension headache and general grumpiness.

Milk makes my constant nasal drip more noticeable and I get nauseous from yogurt. All other dairy doesn't seem to affect me.

My alcohol tolerance is not as high as it used to be: One drink (hard liquor, seems to be any kind) and I will wake up in the middle of the night with a hangover. Downing a bottle of water usually cures it by morning.

Not sure how "paleo" (or non-paleo) this is: If I use moisturizer, sun screen, or pretty much anything else on my face, I get acne. My face stays clear as long as I put nothing but water on it.

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on May 16, 2011
at 12:40 PM

Sugar - skin rashes, allergy flare up, acne, back/joint/neck pain, blurry vision, low energy/sleepy, sometimes get heart racing
Wheat - same as sugar, plus bloating and intestinal discomfort
Beans - similar to sugar/wheat, but not as pronounced
Omega 6 - back/neck/joint pain, sunburn more easily, heal slowly
Dairy - high fat dairy causes no problems, raw milk drops my blood sugar (sometimes hypo)

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on May 16, 2011
at 09:23 AM

Sugar makes my blood sugar crash BIG TIME and I end up eating everything I see and can't seem to fight the hunger.

Gluten kicks my rump! I vomit, get major bloating, swell up, get headaches, etc..

Milk, if I drink it I must gain weight instantly something about it makes my body grow bigger and bigger, together with bad skin.

Other dairy I don't really have a problem with.

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on May 16, 2011
at 07:30 AM

Don't ask me why, but we just experimented with gluten/sugar in the form of nestle tollhouse chocolate chip cookies and a tall glass of conventional whole milk.'

The only dairy I have had in the past 3 months has been heavy cream and pasture butter. So far I feel "gurgly" and a pronounced heaviness in my gut. Sort of...intestinal foreboding, if you will!

The gluten side effects I can readily say, are INTENSE joint stiffness and soreness, especially in the knuckles of my fingers and toes, and my ankles and wrists. I also am feeling a much higher internal temperature.

I've been suffering from seasonal allergies the past few days (the past 2 days in NYC have been the worst in a long time), and today it all but cleared up. As soon as I started eating the cookies I noticed a marked increase in "phlegminess." Gypsyloo's voice is also hoarse. I should say that she ate 3 cookies and had a small glass of milk, and I, the glutton for punishment that I am, had 7 cookies and 2 giant glasses of milk. I'm in for it.

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on May 16, 2011
at 04:59 PM

interesting, i don't have a huge gluten intolerance, but i have noticed that eating it gives me an almost immediate slighty sore throat these days. For a while i wondered if it was just in my head, so interesting to hear about the hoarse voice.

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on May 17, 2011
at 07:18 PM

2 days later, I'm still joint-sore/stiff, stuffed up (altho it's fading), and puffy. I gained a total of 4-5 lbs from my cookie experiment, whether in water weight or fat I'm not sure, but it's also going away.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 16, 2011
at 04:57 AM

So far experiments have shown:

A little gluten and I start sneezing within an hour or so of ingestion. A lot of gluten and it's a pretty unpleasant time digestion-wise with many bathroom breaks Gluten also brings back pain in my knees, hip and lower back

It's pretty amazing to find this evidence, because I never knew these symptoms were from gluten when I was eating it regularly. I only found out when they went away after going off the stuff.

If I eat too much sugar/fructose I experience the same sort of bathroom problems for a day.

Too many carbs even from paleo sources and I notice significant water retention. I have a bad knee that swells up at the drop of a hat and the only time it goes back to normal for any length of time is when I keep the carbs under 150 grams a day.

Great question: I've been wanting to admit to experimenting with eating gluten and other non-paleo foods to test if they really do anything to me and the evidence is stunning.

Haven't tested dairy/no dairy symptoms and I haven't eaten crappy oil for a long time now. Omega 6 is hard to test for if you are actively eating low amounts of the paleo foods that have it and none of the fast foods that do. My strategy for helping symptoms is to eat higher than usual amounts of pro-biotic foods. Several tablespoons of Kimchi or sauerkraut juice usually helps alleviate symptoms.

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on May 16, 2011
at 04:53 AM

If I eat enough wheat my stomach will be so distended that my belly button will rip open. It's not fun. At all. It also feels like someone took sandpaper to my intestines. I've described it as someone trying to slice me open from the inside. If I eat gluten over a long period of time I get very sick and at one point had my hair falling out.

I've found if I cheat on my diet, I have to do it with corn instead of wheat - like tostitos instead of crackers. It's still bad and I'll gain weight, but I won't be in the fetal position on the floor screaming about how much it hurts. So far anyway. Subject to change - heh.

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on May 16, 2011
at 04:25 AM

Any wheat, even soy sauce, my sinuses stop up. Actually, just walking through the bread aisle.

Eating much wheat/gluten, intestinal discomfort and grogginess for several days.

Haven't noticed problems with other non-paleo.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 20, 2011
at 08:29 AM

Nin Jiom Pei Pa Koa (http://ninjiom-hk.cwahi.net/) may be another solution to hoarse and sore throat. i know a lot of people use it, its also non alcoholic, though it's effectiveness is not as good as alcohol based cough medicine, but it's still good to use on not so serious sore or hoarse throat. Hope you are getting well soon!!!

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