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Sugar binge symptoms

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Created April 18, 2013 at 9:34 AM

I have a question about sugar binge symptoms.

I have noticed that sugar binges are especially hard on me. I am just coming out from my three-day sugar binge. It started very innocently - I had some honey. Then I had some raw goat milk. Then some cheese. Then four chocolate ice cream cones, some chocolate candies and a cake.

Food intake break down for those who like to assume things:

Day 1 - normal food plus honey (2 tsp)

Day 2 - normal food plus raw goat milk (I bought it to make kefir, but I did not have any grains). Also some goat cheese.

Day 3. Breakfast - normal food plus 3 chocolate candies (small). Lunch - a sandwich wrap and a chocolate ice- cream cone Snack - an ice-cream cone Dinner - sushi rolls, mousse filling from a cake Snack - ice-cream cone (I was at the mall all day)

However, I don't get my body's reaction to sugar overload. All the other people (as far as I know) just get hyper, then crash and get tired.

These are my after-binge symptoms:

  1. Dark circles under eyes
  2. Turning pale
  3. White-coated tongue
  4. Sluggishness, fatigue
  5. Numbness in extremities
  6. Restless sleep
  7. Sweating, feeling hot
  8. Rapid weight gain (I gained over 6 lb in 3 days)
  9. Hives
  10. Stomach ache
  11. General ill feeling (sneezing, coughing)

etc. etc. etc.

I know those symptoms are not normal. What does it mean? My bad bacteria is growing and whatever is left from my good bacteria is dying off?

I no longer have SIBO but the symptoms remain (especially after binging on sweets).

24c27817ad9ac518946dda4a131737b5

on April 19, 2013
at 04:38 AM

alligator's just flat-out wrong. if he has nothing useful to say, it's better to pass over the post without comment.

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(1031)

on April 18, 2013
at 11:17 PM

Not sure, this *might* provide some information. It's a heavy read mind. http://www.slideshare.net/sithor/sickly-sweet-electronic-version

32652cb696b75182cb121009ee4edea3

(5802)

on April 18, 2013
at 11:15 PM

I often wonder this - I mean, are other people really fine, or do they just not notice? I read this book called "The Highly Sensitive Person" which was very enlightening. Not "sensitive" emotionally, but sensitive as in highly alert to all details, no matter how small. I FEEL my digestion working. I notice aches that weren't there the day before. It's a bit of a cursed existence, but in the end, are we better off for knowing? Maybe...

32652cb696b75182cb121009ee4edea3

(5802)

on April 18, 2013
at 09:30 PM

It's kind of hidden in their blends. I went through my chiro, and the cost was 50% off SP retail, btw. I filled out a form with about 200 ?'s about digestion, and they recommended this mix: 2 LACT-ENZ per meal, 1 MULTIZYME per meal, and 1 PITUITROPHIN PMG. The probiotics are in either the LACT-ENZ or MULTIZYME (don't have them on my right now).

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

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on April 18, 2013
at 08:42 PM

Because you don't get enough exercise Vb!!! (only half serious). If I ate the majority of my calories from junk one day out of the blue I'd probably have a similar reaction. Maybe not numb extremities though..

048dd52752c45129c1212bfffb37ca72

(3150)

on April 18, 2013
at 07:48 PM

Maybe we just are not supposed to eat junk, period? I mean if you were to eat some poison you wouldn't expect to not get bad consequences from it. That's what I have come to think for myself. But I see what you say of others eating same stuff and not getting that reaction, it pisses me off also. But well, it depends, we always come to think that we are in a worse position than others, but you can guess, maybe it's not really the case. Just being positive, at least you know what to eat and avoid to rock! hehe

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 18, 2013
at 06:54 PM

I could not find any probiotics from Standard Process, only enzymes. What probiotics are you taking?

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 18, 2013
at 06:52 PM

You are right. I just want to know the mechanics. I do not mind being a case study if any physician wants to study my response to junk foods. My question is - why so many people around me eat junk food and they are fine? Many people suggest inflammatory response. I am inclined to blame gut bacteria. And inflammation due to dysbiosis as a secondary process. What is interesting is that I AM TOTALLY FINE ON A VERY STRICT DIET. And then some bad food - and I am stuck with all those symptoms again!

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 18, 2013
at 06:15 PM

I will write that down as a reminder.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 18, 2013
at 06:13 PM

Thanks for such a detailed answer. I am not worried about binging - I no longer crave anything but I was wondering why my body reacted so violently. What are the mechanics of it? Plus all the foods I have listed I ate throughout the day, not in one sitting. Thanks again.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 18, 2013
at 06:09 PM

I used to be gluten intolerant. But since my SIBO is gone I thought I would be less sensitive to gluten. And I am. I had a couple of wraps from Starbucks, and I was okay afterwards. It is the sugar that did it.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 18, 2013
at 06:08 PM

Interesting. I will try researching them.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 18, 2013
at 06:07 PM

Stephen, my sugar cravings are over but I will make sure to keep some protein handy. I think it was just a glitch since I am back to normal again. What I don't understand is why I have such severe reaction to all this junk food? I don't think other people have the same reaction.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 18, 2013
at 06:05 PM

I am not sure of anything... I used to drink milk all my life without any problems. But when my gut got screwed up - this is how my body reacts now. I am pretty sure I react like this to gluten, sugar and everything processed. I do not react to cheese.

32652cb696b75182cb121009ee4edea3

(5802)

on April 18, 2013
at 03:31 PM

My feeling is gut bacteria. I have had overall inflammation in the past, and that is now greatly reduced, almost gone (at least in the ways I can tell). The white tongue shows me there's a yeast factor. Do you think that maybe, even with years of gut healing, that the balance is still very precarious? I am taking a supplement right now from Standard Process (enzymes and probiotics) and I am curious to see if that helps. (I was going to mention them in your questions about probiotics, but they havefillers. But they have taken away the pain in my ileocecal valve, finally!

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on April 18, 2013
at 12:12 PM

Hi, yes I think it's normal. It's possible your gut flora got messed up a little (white coating on tongue could perhaps relate to candida), but overall I think its a reasonable response to eating a lot of food. It's not necessarily the sugar that's the problem, but the sugar alongside the rest of it. Like has been said it will take a little while to feel less symptomatic but again, seems to be a standard response. Have a look at the other questions in the sidebar here- plenty of descriptions made by people of how binging makes them feel...

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 18, 2013
at 11:58 AM

Thank you so much for your answer! I am not alone... Same thing for me about binge trigger. What I do not understand is the cause. What exactly causes that response - gut bacteria or overall inflammation? That's what I would love to know. I was okay today though. If I don't eat sweets, I am fine and it takes a couple of days to get it out of my system as well.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 18, 2013
at 11:41 AM

Thanks for your explanation though. Yes, there was gluten and sugar in that cake.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 18, 2013
at 11:40 AM

So you think my symptoms are related to inflammation, not gut bacteria? Today I was very strict and I am feeling better, but is that normal - to have all those symptoms after digesting carbs? I have never heard anything even remotely similar from healthy people.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on April 18, 2013
at 11:37 AM

I am not asking for help - this was one "sugar binge" in the last three months (the last one was in January). And even considering everything I ate, it was not that bad. However, I don't understand why my symptoms are so bad after eating all those sugary stuff. It is not the cause that I want to know, it is why do I get so sick afterwards.

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2006ccb2b60f9cc5ba5e8eff8a7abc46

on April 18, 2013
at 01:42 PM

you are pushing yourself into a state of metabolic distress which puts stress on all of your bodies functions. from your endocrine system, your liver, your respiration, every part of your body has to work in over drive to figure out what the hell to do with this surplus of calories, insulin and chemicals. the more often you binge, the worse the symptoms become.

dark undercircles is due to sleep disruption, adrenal fatigue and kidney issues, which can be caused by an imbalance of calories, insulin spikes and dips, and also the bodies own digestive processes kicking into over drive and having to clear the blood.

turning pale, cold extremities are an combination of the blood being rushed to the stomach and digestive systems to deal with the overload as well as blood sugar swings. same with sluggishness and fatigue, although the calories should translate to energy, and overload translates to the body rushing to process, absorb and digest the excess.

weight gain is due to insulin and high blood glucose causing the body to hold onto water and excess calories

white tonuge=over load of yeast due to feeding it generously with simple sugars

hives=you probably have allergies or have stressed your adrenals enough they do not know how to process what you are inhaling.

hot flashes=your metabolism trying to figure out how to process excess calories.

all of this is extremely wearing on the systems of the body and causes deterioration.

my suggestion to you would be to start a whole foods, paleo style ketogenic diet, here are the basics but I urge you to do your homework and really focus on kicking the binge eating habit and getting your blood sugar back into balance so that you don't have the physical addiction to binging.

kick carbs down below 50gs a day and focus on fatty cuts of meat, eggs, fish, sausage and bacon(make sure these last two don't have a ton of additives or sugar), as well as low carb/starch veggies such as lettuce, kale, spinach, broccoli and cauliflower, cucumber, celery. do this for at least two months, drink a ton of water in the process, replenish your electrolytes with broth, potassium/lite slat, seaweed, eat very very hearty meals, stew made with fatty cuts of meat, roasted chicken with the skin. if you find you tolerate dairy like sour cream, cream cheese and butter use those, heavy cream for coffee, cook with coconut oil, snack on olives and small portions of nuts.

you will most likely feel the "keto flu" for the first few weeks, but keep going, try for at least two months, and then see if you even feel like you want to eat carbs, there are so amny delicious recipes out there for low carb eating, I think you would benefit greatly.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 18, 2013
at 06:13 PM

Thanks for such a detailed answer. I am not worried about binging - I no longer crave anything but I was wondering why my body reacted so violently. What are the mechanics of it? Plus all the foods I have listed I ate throughout the day, not in one sitting. Thanks again.

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5b9a25a1a676397a25579dfad59e1d7b

(2318)

on April 18, 2013
at 11:57 AM

Since going paleo I have noticed my body is much more sensitive to sugar of any kind in general (such as naturally occurring sugars in fruits), so I can just imagine how it would react to a bunch of overly processed junk food laden in all kinds of chemical nasties plus wheat/gluten. I'm really not surprised you had those types of symptoms -- your body is screaming "dont feed be that sh*t!", don't ya think?

You may have some type of gluten sensitivity or something along those lines. You should try removing it from your diet completely for at least 30 days and see if you notice a reaction when you add it back in. Just search gluten intolerance or celiac in the search bar and you'll find tons of info. Either way, something's not right and you could very well be feeding the bad bacteria in your gut and/or killing off the good guys.

I haven't ever had the urge to 'binge' (if that's what this is) on things that I know will hurt me. If it truly was a binge then perhaps you do need to speak to someone about why you couldn't stop -- how we eat is very much intertwined with how we feel even if we're not aware of it. Becoming paleo has led me to respect my body and to put things into it that will bring me closer to my goals -- having lots of energy, feeling fantastic, LGN (lookin great neked ;)) and living a long and full life!

I hope you feel better soon :)

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 18, 2013
at 06:09 PM

I used to be gluten intolerant. But since my SIBO is gone I thought I would be less sensitive to gluten. And I am. I had a couple of wraps from Starbucks, and I was okay afterwards. It is the sugar that did it.

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Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

on April 18, 2013
at 10:51 AM

Your symptoms don't sound particularly abnormal for people who 'overindulge' or binge (let's get the term straight by the way; when you say binge do you mean overeating or overeating where you felt out of control, emotionally in turmoil afterwards? Arguably the latter in most nomenclature I've seen is characteristic of a binge.

Anyway, it sounds like you are 'inflamed' generally. Re some of the symptoms you describe: Hives could also be symptomatic of allergy/intolerance/sensitivity- eg what was in the cake? How recently have you eaten gluten grains? A lot of the weight gain is likely realted to increased water retention from what you ate ( a lot of carboHYDRATEs...). Sweating/feeling hot realtes to the thermogenics of ingesting a lot of food. I can't speak from recent experience but what you describe seems to be your body compensating for the 'binge'. It will probably pass. I hope you feel better

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

(2934)

on April 18, 2013
at 12:12 PM

Hi, yes I think it's normal. It's possible your gut flora got messed up a little (white coating on tongue could perhaps relate to candida), but overall I think its a reasonable response to eating a lot of food. It's not necessarily the sugar that's the problem, but the sugar alongside the rest of it. Like has been said it will take a little while to feel less symptomatic but again, seems to be a standard response. Have a look at the other questions in the sidebar here- plenty of descriptions made by people of how binging makes them feel...

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 18, 2013
at 11:41 AM

Thanks for your explanation though. Yes, there was gluten and sugar in that cake.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 18, 2013
at 11:40 AM

So you think my symptoms are related to inflammation, not gut bacteria? Today I was very strict and I am feeling better, but is that normal - to have all those symptoms after digesting carbs? I have never heard anything even remotely similar from healthy people.

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048dd52752c45129c1212bfffb37ca72

on April 18, 2013
at 02:22 PM

This used to happen to me a lot, I'm pretty happy that I overcame most of my cravings but from time to time depending on the circumstances (social pressure like 20 people going to eat cake for a birthday and being the only one saying no and stuff like that) I may have a break and have some, then chances are that I'd start experiencing some of the things you said, like the insane cravings for more and the post-meal sickness. That's why I cheat less and less as time goes by. As I read more and more and come to know myself better I have become more concerned about sugary stuff and my conclusion is that better to stay as far as much as possible from it.

As for why exactly this cascade of symptoms are triggered, I can't help a lot, I'd also love to know the exact mechanisms. I guess it may have to do with metabolic syndrome and an excess toxicity level of sugar blood that may cause inflammation and a general hormonal distress. Maybe also dehydration. Most of this feelings I guess that are pretty expected in most people as a sugar rush like that is not natural for anyone (when we go to the Chinese or Wok restaurants EVERYONE that eats a ton of pasta, rice and desserts then get an insane sleepy feeling with no exception, that must mean something...) but people with metabolic issues may be far more sensitive. I've been obese when a child so in some way I think I'm a little bit screwed up and that's why I get those weird problems when I fall off-wagon.

But as stated above, it may also be some kind of food sensitivity. In fact, I'm paying attention to this because I'm a little suspicious that casein from cow dairy may be a cause. Sometimes when I eat cheese or other dairy products I get like an insane need for more and also a cold feeling at my head, this really does not seem to be normal. But with feta cheese I do not experience this so maybe it can be something related to the A1 type of casein, which is known to have some opiates that can create dependency. I've also recently started to notice that I get similar reactions to some nuts. Histamine is a trigger that is in my spotlight this recently because many people is reporting it as a real devil and I see similar patterns to what happens to me.

Also, you could keep an eye to your pulse. When I have a lot of bad carbs or some other foods that make me feel sick the next day, as alcohol, I notice a very high rise in HR. If my usual HR on the morning is between 43 to 48, on a day like this it may even hit 60 or more. It just may indicate an accelerated metabolism trying to get rid of excess calories but some say that HR is pretty correlated to food sensitivities caused by the immune reaction of the body (see the Coca Pulse Test), so It may come in handy to check from time to time.

Hope some insight may help. Keep us informed!

32652cb696b75182cb121009ee4edea3

(5802)

on April 18, 2013
at 11:15 PM

I often wonder this - I mean, are other people really fine, or do they just not notice? I read this book called "The Highly Sensitive Person" which was very enlightening. Not "sensitive" emotionally, but sensitive as in highly alert to all details, no matter how small. I FEEL my digestion working. I notice aches that weren't there the day before. It's a bit of a cursed existence, but in the end, are we better off for knowing? Maybe...

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 18, 2013
at 06:52 PM

You are right. I just want to know the mechanics. I do not mind being a case study if any physician wants to study my response to junk foods. My question is - why so many people around me eat junk food and they are fine? Many people suggest inflammatory response. I am inclined to blame gut bacteria. And inflammation due to dysbiosis as a secondary process. What is interesting is that I AM TOTALLY FINE ON A VERY STRICT DIET. And then some bad food - and I am stuck with all those symptoms again!

048dd52752c45129c1212bfffb37ca72

(3150)

on April 18, 2013
at 07:48 PM

Maybe we just are not supposed to eat junk, period? I mean if you were to eat some poison you wouldn't expect to not get bad consequences from it. That's what I have come to think for myself. But I see what you say of others eating same stuff and not getting that reaction, it pisses me off also. But well, it depends, we always come to think that we are in a worse position than others, but you can guess, maybe it's not really the case. Just being positive, at least you know what to eat and avoid to rock! hehe

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on April 18, 2013
at 02:05 PM

Those are very typical side effects of processed junk. I get them too. Just remember them for when you want to binge again and see if its worth it.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 18, 2013
at 06:15 PM

I will write that down as a reminder.

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Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

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on April 18, 2013
at 01:28 PM

I was craving some sugar the other day then I had some boiled kale, little oil and salmon and the cravings went away. Different foods probably encourage different bacteria, so if you're craving sweets, eat something else that's satisfying and see if it goes away. Maybe keep some protein ready in the fridge for when you get those cravings.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

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on April 18, 2013
at 08:42 PM

Because you don't get enough exercise Vb!!! (only half serious). If I ate the majority of my calories from junk one day out of the blue I'd probably have a similar reaction. Maybe not numb extremities though..

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 18, 2013
at 06:07 PM

Stephen, my sugar cravings are over but I will make sure to keep some protein handy. I think it was just a glitch since I am back to normal again. What I don't understand is why I have such severe reaction to all this junk food? I don't think other people have the same reaction.

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Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on April 18, 2013
at 01:27 PM

Are you sure you aren't allergic to casein (milk protein)? Sure sounds like an allergic reaction to me.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 18, 2013
at 06:05 PM

I am not sure of anything... I used to drink milk all my life without any problems. But when my gut got screwed up - this is how my body reacts now. I am pretty sure I react like this to gluten, sugar and everything processed. I do not react to cheese.

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32652cb696b75182cb121009ee4edea3

(5802)

on April 18, 2013
at 11:51 AM

VB, I totally get those same symptoms. As a matter of fact, my daughter came home last night and wanted to share this awesome "new" thing she found called World's Finest Chocolate (lol - bane of my existence as a teen!). I took a piece to make her happy (ergh - I was 100% paleo for MONTHS until easter....). From that one piece, here is what I get from your list:

white-coated tongue (which may be a sign of yeast in system)

restless sleep (usually I sleep from 9:30-7:30; last night 12-7, waking up 3 times)

sweating, feeling hot (this was part of the restless sleep...)

dark circles under eyes (um, see sleep above ... but I always fight these)

numbness in extremities (I actually don't get numbness, but I get pain, fibromyalgia-like)

general ill feeling, etc. (yeah)

It will take at least 2 days to get it out of my system. My speculation at this point is that these symptoms are caused by either a latent autoimmune disease or a histamine response. I have been almost 100% paleo for 3 years. I have seen these effects lessen to some degree. Well, I still feel awful, but it doesn't take as long for me to recover. (I used to have to endure the sugar withdrawal symptoms all over again every time I ate some).

And btw, sugar is my binge trigger too. I have to keep a strong mental block up at all times (bc I have 4 kids who go out in the world and always come home with sweets - grrr that's another subject). If I even eat a little piece, I KNOW that I have to lock down even more or I'll start shoveling. I don't think this is eating disorder related, bc I don't do that with any other food. It's like a switch flips in my brain.

32652cb696b75182cb121009ee4edea3

(5802)

on April 18, 2013
at 03:31 PM

My feeling is gut bacteria. I have had overall inflammation in the past, and that is now greatly reduced, almost gone (at least in the ways I can tell). The white tongue shows me there's a yeast factor. Do you think that maybe, even with years of gut healing, that the balance is still very precarious? I am taking a supplement right now from Standard Process (enzymes and probiotics) and I am curious to see if that helps. (I was going to mention them in your questions about probiotics, but they havefillers. But they have taken away the pain in my ileocecal valve, finally!

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 18, 2013
at 11:58 AM

Thank you so much for your answer! I am not alone... Same thing for me about binge trigger. What I do not understand is the cause. What exactly causes that response - gut bacteria or overall inflammation? That's what I would love to know. I was okay today though. If I don't eat sweets, I am fine and it takes a couple of days to get it out of my system as well.

32652cb696b75182cb121009ee4edea3

(5802)

on April 18, 2013
at 09:30 PM

It's kind of hidden in their blends. I went through my chiro, and the cost was 50% off SP retail, btw. I filled out a form with about 200 ?'s about digestion, and they recommended this mix: 2 LACT-ENZ per meal, 1 MULTIZYME per meal, and 1 PITUITROPHIN PMG. The probiotics are in either the LACT-ENZ or MULTIZYME (don't have them on my right now).

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 18, 2013
at 06:08 PM

Interesting. I will try researching them.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 18, 2013
at 06:54 PM

I could not find any probiotics from Standard Process, only enzymes. What probiotics are you taking?

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3a9d5dde5212ccd34b860bb6ed07bbef

on April 18, 2013
at 10:46 AM

"I noticed those symptoms are not normal"

What is "normal" in the context of abnormality? For most people, a sugar binge means a more concentrated load of sugar than usual. YOu ate a HUGE surplus of calories, fat, and sugar. So is it a sugar binge?

Either way, although it may feel like it is, paleohacks is not an eating disorder clinic. If it's really so bad why do you still do it?

You need to get help elsewhere.

24c27817ad9ac518946dda4a131737b5

on April 19, 2013
at 04:38 AM

alligator's just flat-out wrong. if he has nothing useful to say, it's better to pass over the post without comment.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 18, 2013
at 11:37 AM

I am not asking for help - this was one "sugar binge" in the last three months (the last one was in January). And even considering everything I ate, it was not that bad. However, I don't understand why my symptoms are so bad after eating all those sugary stuff. It is not the cause that I want to know, it is why do I get so sick afterwards.

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