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Has anyone ever successfully treated SIBO?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created February 18, 2013 at 4:50 PM

And went back to a normal Paleo diet and continued to be symptom-free?

I read a lot about how people start treatment or a SCD... and never seem to get off. Is that the prognosis for SIBO victims?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on February 19, 2013
at 11:57 PM

Grapefruit seed extract is pointless, I retract my statement. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grapefruit_seed_extract

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on February 19, 2013
at 05:06 PM

Assuming you even have SIBO... I have made that assumption this entire time, and I just now realized it, lol.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on February 19, 2013
at 03:39 AM

The other antibiotics would require a prescription, I would ask a naturopathic doctor for his recommendation if you were to go down that route

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on February 19, 2013
at 03:37 AM

I would try the natural antibiotics and the l-glutamine, which now that I think about it may not even be necessary. Peppermint oil, ginger, garlic and grapefruit seed extract may be the key ingredients to killing the bacteria

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on February 19, 2013
at 02:40 AM

I starved myself because I wanted to lose weight.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on February 19, 2013
at 02:39 AM

Fecal transplant is no good for SIBO patient - it is only for C. diff and people who have gut dysbiosis. We have too much of bacteria in the wrong spot - fecal transplant is not going to help this. We need to kill it off, not add to it. But thanks for your words of encouragement.

3b031bce7c181c10452ee202e2b54dc6

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on February 19, 2013
at 12:56 AM

Interesting. Do you think you could do it without the antibiotics? How would I get the antibiotics? Do I need a doctor's Rx?

3b031bce7c181c10452ee202e2b54dc6

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on February 19, 2013
at 12:48 AM

You mentioned before you remember exactly what triggered your SIBO, can you tell me? Maybe ours are similar

Db83c2c5ea492d6716c28a0b561ee174

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on February 19, 2013
at 12:45 AM

VB, Paul, don't lose hope. Consider a fecal transplant (the difficult part is finding a doctor willing to authorize it, really), colon cleansing with stripping agents and hey, garlic pills are much better than swallowing nuclear devices.

Db83c2c5ea492d6716c28a0b561ee174

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on February 19, 2013
at 12:34 AM

It also strictly denies certain types of dairy products, whereas Paleo has it in a grey zone. Milk, heavy cream or highly processed cheeses seem to be the worst offenders, whereas homemade yogurt, kefir and naturally aged cheeses are more acceptable. A weakened gut cannot take high fat dairy. (other than butter, apparently)

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on February 18, 2013
at 07:45 PM

Then I hate them ALL - bacteria included!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on February 18, 2013
at 07:40 PM

Woah, that is a bit extreme, haha. Don't blame the professionals themselves, however, as their methods are dictated by insurance companies. People will not see doctors unless they are covered by their insurance, insurance companies require doctors to limit time with patients as to maximize their use of money. http://www.aspirenaturalhealth.com/why_pay_for_a_visit.html

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on February 18, 2013
at 06:37 PM

Also, two different doctors (bad ones though) told me that I it was all in my head and I needed a psychiatrist. But when I told them about SIBO they did not even know what it was!!! It makes me SO MAD!!! I HATE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT PROFESSIONAL, ESP DOCTORS!!! DO NO HARM!!! I think they need to be executed for misdiagnosis.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on February 18, 2013
at 06:28 PM

I am very sorry... I have NEVER thought about a suicide... it is not my way. Only about killing them. Not sure I am ready for garlic pills yet... but one day I will get them!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on February 18, 2013
at 06:02 PM

I've attempted suicide twice as a result of the depression caused by my SIBO. It is a very serious problem, surprised how it is not considered an official diagnosis by insurance companies.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on February 18, 2013
at 05:00 PM

Good luck on that. SCD does not seem to differentiate too far from "Paleo" rather than disallowing potatoes and any sweeteners besides honey

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F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on February 18, 2013
at 05:15 PM

I am also a SIBO victim.

I have been on Paleo since October 2011, and I was pretty much SCD from the start. However, I did not know I had SIBO at that time.

I was diagnosed with SIBO (self-diagnosed at first, then confirmed by the test) in November 2012. I have been following the SCD diet (with some interruptions) ever since.

My case is a bad one. Not only I have methane producing bacteria that is very very hard to get rid of, I was put on PPIs for gastric erosion for about 4 months due to doctor's unawareness (SIBO is so under diagnosed) which worsened my situation significantly.

I have been through two rounds of antibiotics and... I am in no way better. I am on a very strict diet, yet I am still not recovering.

I am going for another testing tomorrow. If the numbers are high again, I don't know what I am going to do.

I think I am going to just die and on my tombstone they are going to write: HOME OF METHANOBREVIBACTER SMITHII

I hate my bacteria with all my passion. They drain the life out of me. I wish I could swallow a micro nuclear bomb that blows them all up.

For those of you who are reading:

Eat good food. Don't diet. Never starve yourself. Stay healthy.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on February 18, 2013
at 06:28 PM

I am very sorry... I have NEVER thought about a suicide... it is not my way. Only about killing them. Not sure I am ready for garlic pills yet... but one day I will get them!

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on February 19, 2013
at 02:40 AM

I starved myself because I wanted to lose weight.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on February 18, 2013
at 06:02 PM

I've attempted suicide twice as a result of the depression caused by my SIBO. It is a very serious problem, surprised how it is not considered an official diagnosis by insurance companies.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on February 18, 2013
at 06:37 PM

Also, two different doctors (bad ones though) told me that I it was all in my head and I needed a psychiatrist. But when I told them about SIBO they did not even know what it was!!! It makes me SO MAD!!! I HATE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT PROFESSIONAL, ESP DOCTORS!!! DO NO HARM!!! I think they need to be executed for misdiagnosis.

3b031bce7c181c10452ee202e2b54dc6

(803)

on February 19, 2013
at 12:48 AM

You mentioned before you remember exactly what triggered your SIBO, can you tell me? Maybe ours are similar

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on February 18, 2013
at 07:45 PM

Then I hate them ALL - bacteria included!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on February 18, 2013
at 07:40 PM

Woah, that is a bit extreme, haha. Don't blame the professionals themselves, however, as their methods are dictated by insurance companies. People will not see doctors unless they are covered by their insurance, insurance companies require doctors to limit time with patients as to maximize their use of money. http://www.aspirenaturalhealth.com/why_pay_for_a_visit.html

Db83c2c5ea492d6716c28a0b561ee174

(161)

on February 19, 2013
at 12:45 AM

VB, Paul, don't lose hope. Consider a fecal transplant (the difficult part is finding a doctor willing to authorize it, really), colon cleansing with stripping agents and hey, garlic pills are much better than swallowing nuclear devices.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on February 19, 2013
at 02:39 AM

Fecal transplant is no good for SIBO patient - it is only for C. diff and people who have gut dysbiosis. We have too much of bacteria in the wrong spot - fecal transplant is not going to help this. We need to kill it off, not add to it. But thanks for your words of encouragement.

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75d65450b6ff0be7b969fb321f1200ac

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on February 18, 2013
at 04:57 PM

SCD has cleared up my SIBO and resulting symptoms (IBS, GERD). Been on the diet for a year. I hope to wean myself off it, at least to some degree, in the coming months.

_Lazza

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on February 18, 2013
at 05:00 PM

Good luck on that. SCD does not seem to differentiate too far from "Paleo" rather than disallowing potatoes and any sweeteners besides honey

Db83c2c5ea492d6716c28a0b561ee174

(161)

on February 19, 2013
at 12:34 AM

It also strictly denies certain types of dairy products, whereas Paleo has it in a grey zone. Milk, heavy cream or highly processed cheeses seem to be the worst offenders, whereas homemade yogurt, kefir and naturally aged cheeses are more acceptable. A weakened gut cannot take high fat dairy. (other than butter, apparently)

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8b9c2dcd3dfc929a0428d3d6dac4918e

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on January 12, 2014
at 07:55 AM

SIBO. Ive got it. I eat some probiotic foods, some anti-biotic foods (coconut oil, cranberries, dark grapes, certain herbs), and avoid the heck out of excess sugars or slow carbs and my symptoms seem to stay away.

I don't really see this as a sentence because I can occasionally cheat, and the food is good food.

I started our following fodmaps and SCD limitations combined. It helped to start with. I needed it. Things are looser now, but I couldn't eat a SAD diet, without serious issues.

Now I just really eat primal (I eat non-whey or fermented dairy, no issue). I do try not to go over board with brolloci and cabbage, and also with slow carbs and sugars, but my diet isn't that strict anymore - although it does seem to help if I continue to avoid high sugars, high carbs, and remember to eat anti-biotic foods too. So not really a cure, more of a way to settle things down more (but also not as strict as at the start, at all)

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on January 12, 2014
at 05:20 AM

YES! I have had very good results following "Fast Track Digestion: IBS" by Norman Robillard. Every food is broken down into its fermentation potential. There are charts to help you along with an explanation as to why this works. Changed my life.

I also practice belly breathing to help keep my motility normal.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on February 18, 2013
at 11:59 PM

Okay, so I found a link, this sounds effective! He essentially recommends to take some natural antibiotics while taking glutamine to effectively END SIBO! He feels as if it has cured his problem, and I am going to try it now! I am excited to see the results :) http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1707980

Update:

Ginger is effective!!! I just drank some ginger tea and oh wow I could feel the die-off symptoms immediately! Everyone with SIBO should try ginger!!!!

Update:

Many symptoms still remain. Peppermint oil, enteric-encapsulated are notably effective. SIBO is most certainly a bear to treat. I am having a insomnia right now.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on February 19, 2013
at 11:57 PM

Grapefruit seed extract is pointless, I retract my statement. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grapefruit_seed_extract

3b031bce7c181c10452ee202e2b54dc6

(803)

on February 19, 2013
at 12:56 AM

Interesting. Do you think you could do it without the antibiotics? How would I get the antibiotics? Do I need a doctor's Rx?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on February 19, 2013
at 03:37 AM

I would try the natural antibiotics and the l-glutamine, which now that I think about it may not even be necessary. Peppermint oil, ginger, garlic and grapefruit seed extract may be the key ingredients to killing the bacteria

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on February 19, 2013
at 05:06 PM

Assuming you even have SIBO... I have made that assumption this entire time, and I just now realized it, lol.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on February 19, 2013
at 03:39 AM

The other antibiotics would require a prescription, I would ask a naturopathic doctor for his recommendation if you were to go down that route

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