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Anyone use negative incline shoes?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created March 01, 2012 at 6:28 PM

Hi all, I just learned about these.. "Earth shoes" or "negative incline shoes"...

What's the consensus? :-)

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1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

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on March 10, 2012
at 12:45 AM

I have a glass when I watch "Justified" Tuesday nights on FX ;)

65125edd5aafad39b3d5b3a8b4a36bb7

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on March 09, 2012
at 05:15 PM

I think a lot about this kind of stuff. You could say my answer was waiting for the question to appear.

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

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on March 02, 2012
at 11:52 PM

Wow you covered yoga, Shape-Ups and bosu balls in one post. That's the exercise BS trifecta right there. Kudos.

9b0310b623f8ed289c9571ab3a58a142

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on March 02, 2012
at 08:39 PM

It's good stuff, for sure.

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

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on March 02, 2012
at 09:11 AM

Negative incline? Isn't that a decline?

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

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on March 02, 2012
at 02:36 AM

I've got a bottle of that sitting on my counter ;)

D83e454e794d761ab524814c0ff8f838

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on March 02, 2012
at 01:28 AM

The incline is very slight. I wouldn't say I was aware of it, except for the very first time I wore Earth shoes.

D83e454e794d761ab524814c0ff8f838

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on March 02, 2012
at 01:27 AM

Wore em for years. Can't say I felt like I got a workout, but I definitely stood taller and straighter. They're very poorly made though now, especially for what they cost.

9b0310b623f8ed289c9571ab3a58a142

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on March 01, 2012
at 11:49 PM

How do you like the Ra shoes? I just ordered a pair myself the other day (supposed to get here some time tomorrow).

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on March 01, 2012
at 07:52 PM

My mother feels the same, and she also has neuropathy in her feet. She also has a wonky sacroiliac joint that causes sciatic pain. She said the negative balance shoes have greatly reduced it.

D31a2a2d43191b15ca4a1c7ec7d03038

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on March 01, 2012
at 07:52 PM

What a great explanation, David. :) I got some Earth Shoes when they first came out, a few decades ago, and I found them a waste of money.

3558d8feb56bc681144f87e67140f885

on March 01, 2012
at 07:41 PM

Wow, interesting! I'm needing some new shoes..

3558d8feb56bc681144f87e67140f885

on March 01, 2012
at 07:40 PM

Afaik, they are the same... Thanks!

3558d8feb56bc681144f87e67140f885

on March 01, 2012
at 07:40 PM

Wow, that's wild. I really need some Vibrams. I'm missing out.

3558d8feb56bc681144f87e67140f885

on March 01, 2012
at 06:52 PM

Cool beans, thanks for the reply! I had never heard of these types of shoes before! :-) ITA about yoga, too.

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65125edd5aafad39b3d5b3a8b4a36bb7

on March 01, 2012
at 06:43 PM

I don't think you'll find a consensus here, since that would imply the entire community comes to an agreement, but perhaps you'll get some opinions.

In my opinion,

I think shoes that are intended to "give a workout" are counter-productive and entirely unnecessary. Recent research from the American Council on Exercise (ACE) suggests that Shape-ups and others like them - MBTs (Masai Barefoot Technology) and Reebok EasyTone shoes won't help you build more muscle or burn more calories as they promise.

I feel this negative incline shoe fits in that category.

I also don't think aligning purpose to that of yoga is particularly useful in this regard, since yoga is a convention (made up by somebody) and not based on inherent natural movements, biomechanics, or behavior. If you enjoy or benefit from yoga, that's wonderful.

I believe it would be more useful to (as much as possible taking into consideration personal capabilities) present the body with the kinds of environments and situations which it adapted to handle, from a physiological standpoint.

This includes barefoot running, or minimal footwear, and movements performed in a range-of-motion that are functional and natural. Whenever somebody designs a shoe that is supposed to "guide" or "force" your body into doing something, I feel it is a bad thing. Shoes should provide a minimal amount of protection from things on the ground or from the cold, and that's it.

Providing artificial impediments or resistance can be useful sometimes, to some extent, but with things like exercising on bosu balls, we are learning that adaptations do not transfer over well since that type of training is not equivalent to what the body does in the real world, or the types of ground it encounters.

D31a2a2d43191b15ca4a1c7ec7d03038

(4134)

on March 01, 2012
at 07:52 PM

What a great explanation, David. :) I got some Earth Shoes when they first came out, a few decades ago, and I found them a waste of money.

3558d8feb56bc681144f87e67140f885

on March 01, 2012
at 06:52 PM

Cool beans, thanks for the reply! I had never heard of these types of shoes before! :-) ITA about yoga, too.

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

(2957)

on March 02, 2012
at 11:52 PM

Wow you covered yoga, Shape-Ups and bosu balls in one post. That's the exercise BS trifecta right there. Kudos.

65125edd5aafad39b3d5b3a8b4a36bb7

(6082)

on March 09, 2012
at 05:15 PM

I think a lot about this kind of stuff. You could say my answer was waiting for the question to appear.

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9b0310b623f8ed289c9571ab3a58a142

on March 01, 2012
at 11:54 PM

I wouldn't wear anything that isn't as thin as possible and flat as possible (or in the case of Five Fingers form-fitting). The only new or innovative design I want in a shoe is to make it less of what it is (if that makes sense).

I think Maker's Mark whiskey has a commercial that says something like "A good whiskey is what it isn't." That would be perfect for a minimalist shoe ad, don't you think?

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

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on March 02, 2012
at 02:36 AM

I've got a bottle of that sitting on my counter ;)

9b0310b623f8ed289c9571ab3a58a142

(384)

on March 02, 2012
at 08:39 PM

It's good stuff, for sure.

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

(11157)

on March 10, 2012
at 12:45 AM

I have a glass when I watch "Justified" Tuesday nights on FX ;)

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Da8e709acde269e8b8bfbc09d1737841

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on March 01, 2012
at 08:34 PM

I bought a pair of Earth shoes to wear around the office a couple years ago. That was before I discovered VFFs, and admittedly, the Earth shoes seemed more comfortable than raised heel shoes in the beginning.

Since I've worn minimalist shoes outside of work, however, my dislike for "dress" shoes has grown and grown. I just recently purchased a pair of Vivobarefoot Ra shoes to replace my Earth shoes, as nowadays, any solid heel shoe hurts my knees from the constant impact. (Earth shoes only seem better because they force a shorter stride. There's still impact, though.)

At this point, I don't intend to ever buy another pair of Earth shoes. Dressier minimalist options are increasing slowly.

9b0310b623f8ed289c9571ab3a58a142

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on March 01, 2012
at 11:49 PM

How do you like the Ra shoes? I just ordered a pair myself the other day (supposed to get here some time tomorrow).

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Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on March 01, 2012
at 08:31 PM

I had a pair when I was 13 and hated them. Wouldn't recommend. Get some VFFs.

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on March 02, 2012
at 01:17 AM

In the 1970's I tried on a friend's & noticed they use the muscles below your calves like no other shoe. She was thin but had thick lower legs (no calf definition), not an attractive look. I'm not sure if it was genetic or due to wearing Earth Shoes for all of the 4 years I knew her.

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on March 01, 2012
at 08:30 PM

My husband discovered these because he has a really bad back (aka, herniated disc on top of a broken back that was never treated - yikes!). He thinks they helped his posture, which really can't be helped, and helped relieve some back pain, and convinced me to try a pair. I have a pair of sandals and a pair of snow boots of the Earth brand variety. While I don't notice a huge difference (though my back is fine), I do notice that it does slightly change the way you walk. It is possible that while wearing snow boots I'm walking differently than I normally do since I'm trudging along, but my legs do have to adjust, and since they are not my everyday shoes, they offer more hinderance than help.

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on March 01, 2012
at 07:43 PM

I strongly suspect that a raised toe is just as detrimental as a raised heel in shoes.

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on March 02, 2012
at 01:28 AM

The incline is very slight. I wouldn't say I was aware of it, except for the very first time I wore Earth shoes.

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on March 01, 2012
at 07:37 PM

I had some Nike Frees, and cut the heel off. I accidentally cut too much off and ended up with a negative incline. I couldn't stand it; they were unwearable and I had to get rid of them.

(This after having been wearing Vibram FiveFingers for a few years, and getting so used to them that even standard shoes with a fairly low heel feel like high heels.)

3558d8feb56bc681144f87e67140f885

on March 01, 2012
at 07:40 PM

Wow, that's wild. I really need some Vibrams. I'm missing out.

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863e1fbcffd4dc7ff1eb0cc8fb3c5e08

on March 01, 2012
at 07:17 PM

My mom wears these in all styles, she has neuropathy in her feet and these are the only shoes she feels comfortable and stable.

3558d8feb56bc681144f87e67140f885

on March 01, 2012
at 07:41 PM

Wow, interesting! I'm needing some new shoes..

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on March 01, 2012
at 07:52 PM

My mother feels the same, and she also has neuropathy in her feet. She also has a wonky sacroiliac joint that causes sciatic pain. She said the negative balance shoes have greatly reduced it.

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on March 01, 2012
at 07:03 PM

if they are the same; i wore Earth Shoes in the 70s. they had brown suede uppers and crepe soles and i loved mine.

3558d8feb56bc681144f87e67140f885

on March 01, 2012
at 07:40 PM

Afaik, they are the same... Thanks!

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