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Paleo Bomb Shelter?

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Created June 30, 2012 at 2:11 AM

Do you have a bomb/disaster shelter and food storage? What have you stored? Would you buy MREs?

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

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on July 01, 2012
at 12:51 AM

I love you, too, Ralph. I'm a bit of a firecracker, myself :) Good night mate, no worries. Let's shake virtual hands.

A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

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on July 01, 2012
at 12:42 AM

Lyndsay - In all seriousness, I've been a bit starved for spirited debate lately and I have enjoyed this. You’re one tough gluten free cookie and I will leave your shelter alone during the zombie apocalypse! Of course, I don't like the idea of having to defend myself against my neighbors in order to have food. I certainly don't want to fantasize about it and I'm sure that you feel the same way.

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

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on June 30, 2012
at 11:42 PM

If you would've read the rest of it, you would've noticed it was intended as a shelter from natural disasters, more so than "bombs." A bomb-shelter offers good protection for these things. We have many shelters built into the hills of Missouri. Yes, I will continue to be prepared, I'm not sure why that irks you, or why even the notion of a bomb-shelter, to protect against air-raids would irk you. Good-luck to you, too, although you don't think you'll have cause for it :)

A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

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on June 30, 2012
at 11:31 PM

Far, far, from it, Lyndsay. And the spear comment in my original answer was a tongue-in-cheek remark that was obviously intended as such. The title of your question is "Paleo Bomb Shelter". You don't build a bomb shelter unless you're scared of a bomb. Anyway, good luck to you. I wish you well. I'm done with this.

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

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on June 30, 2012
at 11:11 PM

You are crazy, Ralph. Insane. How can you deduce such things from anything I posted? As, I've stated, it's my grandfather who has the shelter, food storage, and guns. You know nothing about what I've seen or been through, in regards to violence. You are irrational. You have stated, "just have a sharper spear than the other guy." You make absolutely no sense. What does being prepared for disaster have anything to do with fear? Wow. Just, wow.

A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

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on June 30, 2012
at 10:57 PM

Lyndsay, your comment shows the kind of relish that one might expect from someone who is fortunate enough to have never seen the unfortunate results of violence. I think we can conclude this debate now so that you can get back to your reloading press and food dehydrator. I wish you well.

A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

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on June 30, 2012
at 10:53 PM

The things that you mentioned earlier don’t just materialize from the atmosphere, or start with, as you put it, “men without honor or dreams of domination and power.” These things are effects. They are created as a fear response. The mechanism may be different, but the fuel is the same. I get the sense that you see the trees, but not the forest.

A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

(2053)

on June 30, 2012
at 10:53 PM

Blossom, I think that the point may have gone zipping over your head like one of Lyndsay's errant target rounds. The point was that these things are based on irrational fear. Irrational fear often leads to prejudice and things like legions, airstrikes, cavalry, lynch mobs, which I grant, have been things worthy of some level of fear...

65bf1ca7071028018c6d8305d0ddcd76

(3049)

on June 30, 2012
at 10:47 PM

It's too bad about the types of seeds though, at least from a paleo perspective: Alfalfa 3 Part Salad Mix Bean Salad Green Pea Crunchy Lentil Fest (3 color lentil mix) Protein Powerhouse (WHAT?) Garbanzo Mung Bean Green Lentil Wheat

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on June 30, 2012
at 10:12 PM

I'd say we'll have better luck than you, Ralph :)

1296f5fecd084f101d7c5fbe013f07eb

(1213)

on June 30, 2012
at 10:05 PM

You're equating fear of airstrikes and bombs with prejudices against various groups. One can be legitimate depending on where you live, the other is irrational. Not everyone on this site lives in America. Re: the Depression - that was only one generation or so ago, depending on how old you are. I know people still living who recall chewing on shoe leather during that time to stave off hunger pains.

A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

(2053)

on June 30, 2012
at 09:54 PM

You are stockpiling an arsenal of weapons in some sort of underground bunker and you ask what is wrong with me? I don't even know how to respond to that...I honestly don't. Good luck to you, Lyndsay.

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on June 30, 2012
at 09:33 PM

what the hell is wrong with you?

A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

(2053)

on June 30, 2012
at 09:29 PM

It's your time and your dime...spend them how you will. Good luck to you. At the end of the day, if you’re happy “prepping” then that’s all that really matters. It’s just not how I choose to live. I think I'm going to go welcome my new neighbors to the neighborhood. And by the way, I truly did not mean to end up in a thing with you about this, but this cultural undercurrent of fear of calamity seems to be getting stronger and I find it a bit strange and concerning. Heck, we're even talking about doomsday prepping on PaleoHacks.

A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

(2053)

on June 30, 2012
at 09:27 PM

Since the Depression, your grandpa's shelter has survived WWII, the Korean War, the Cuban Missile Crisis and entire cold war, Y2K, and the latest thing: the war on terror. It seems that the bomb shelter has been effective so far and will probably withstand the next bogeyman – whatever it may be. To answer your question, you’re going to have a tough time storing “paleo” food. If your concerns come to pass, you’ll be glad to have your grandparent’s rice & beans. If I were amassing an arsenal of guns and ammunition and a stockpile of food, I would prolly not be writing about it on the interwebs.

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on June 30, 2012
at 07:27 PM

No, it's not a symptom of my fear- it's simply being smart and prepared for anything, like power outages, earthquakes, tornados, you name it. My grandparents are the ones who have the shelter and food provisions. Having grown up in the Great Depression, my grandfather instilled in me the value of being prepared for hard times. As far as taking our supplies, well, we also have an arsenal of guns and know how to use them :)

A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

(2053)

on June 30, 2012
at 06:29 PM

The point was that people can always find things to fear and most of them need not be feared. I would say that if you are living in America, in 2012, you probably needn't fear barbarians, witches, conquistadors, black people, crusaders, airstrikes, cavalry or legions, or anything else that we can collectively think up. The OP is referring to building and stocking a bunker. That is a symptom of fear - plain and simple. To combat this fear you can do things to work on building community and getting to know other people.

A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

(2053)

on June 30, 2012
at 06:22 PM

The point was that people can always find things to fear and most of them need not be feared. I would say that if you are living in America, in 2012, you probably needn't fear barbarians, witches, conquistadors, black people, crusaders, airstrikes, cavalry or legions, or anything else that we can collectively think up. The OP is referring to building and stocking a bunker. That is a symptom of fear - plain and simple. To combat this fear you can do things to work on building community and getting to know other people. Perhaps you and at least one other reader failed to get that.

1296f5fecd084f101d7c5fbe013f07eb

(1213)

on June 30, 2012
at 04:02 PM

People have rightfully feared barbarians, conquistadors, and crusaders, airstrikes, cavalry, and legions. There have been plenty of men without honor or dreams of domination and power to legitimately fear over the centuries. I am almost positive the OP was not referring to "witches, black people, etc." What an odd strawman!

E40b2fc9ddcf702bab9d61d28b8c8440

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on June 30, 2012
at 03:41 PM

50 lbs of sea salt?!?! That's awesome! Really great idear. Would love to hear where you find the best deal on that.

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on June 30, 2012
at 02:07 PM

similar question: http://paleohacks.com/questions/124826/any-paleo-preppers-out-there

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99ca5e571688efbd6838bb0e63971d86

on June 30, 2012
at 05:59 AM

If interested in learning how to prep & eat paleo, check out Jack Spirko's "The Survival Podcast ". He's been eating paleo for about a year& has interviewed Robb Wolf on his podcast.

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Eea6a68f5a7190d13c60e1c72417a581

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on June 30, 2012
at 08:33 AM

I bought 50lbs of sea salt, I figure it will be a valuable trade good and critical in food preservation. I also keep 2 casess of coconut milk and 2 64 oz tubs of oil in stock in my kitchen: portable sources of calories, shelf stable and able to make foraged tubers and leaves more palatable. Snare wire and we have a bow I've yet to learn to hunt with complete my post apocalyptic plans. Also: staying on good terms with the neighbors, a solar radio and making sure everyone in the family has good warm clothes and waterproof walking shoes.

E40b2fc9ddcf702bab9d61d28b8c8440

(505)

on June 30, 2012
at 03:41 PM

50 lbs of sea salt?!?! That's awesome! Really great idear. Would love to hear where you find the best deal on that.

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61c1efcc482019e016c45270b18c7453

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on June 30, 2012
at 11:10 AM

Paleokits sells MREs, otherwise be prepared to eat a lot of twinkies.

paleo-bomb-shelter?

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on June 30, 2012
at 03:04 AM

Sprouting Kit from Costco.com Sprouting Tray System Included, 10 lbs. of Seeds link text coconut oil & sardines, just to get started...

65bf1ca7071028018c6d8305d0ddcd76

(3049)

on June 30, 2012
at 10:47 PM

It's too bad about the types of seeds though, at least from a paleo perspective: Alfalfa 3 Part Salad Mix Bean Salad Green Pea Crunchy Lentil Fest (3 color lentil mix) Protein Powerhouse (WHAT?) Garbanzo Mung Bean Green Lentil Wheat

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A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

on June 30, 2012
at 01:40 PM

I get a kick out of this disaster meme. Probably a good idea to have some supplies, but a bomb shelter may be going too far. I think I would rather watch the S.H.T.F. from the roof of my house with a cold one in my hand than hang out underground like some sort of mole-person. But, to each their own. Look back through history at the forces that have been feared: witches, black people, commies, Muslims, computers (Y2K). Were any of them really worth fearing? Why do people seem to need fear?

Additionally, would it be more "paleo" to do a bunch of prepping or just wait for the event horizon and then take supplies from weaker, but better prepared people? Seems like that's how it would have been done way back in the day. Just have a sharper spear than the other guy.

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on June 30, 2012
at 11:42 PM

If you would've read the rest of it, you would've noticed it was intended as a shelter from natural disasters, more so than "bombs." A bomb-shelter offers good protection for these things. We have many shelters built into the hills of Missouri. Yes, I will continue to be prepared, I'm not sure why that irks you, or why even the notion of a bomb-shelter, to protect against air-raids would irk you. Good-luck to you, too, although you don't think you'll have cause for it :)

1296f5fecd084f101d7c5fbe013f07eb

(1213)

on June 30, 2012
at 04:02 PM

People have rightfully feared barbarians, conquistadors, and crusaders, airstrikes, cavalry, and legions. There have been plenty of men without honor or dreams of domination and power to legitimately fear over the centuries. I am almost positive the OP was not referring to "witches, black people, etc." What an odd strawman!

A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

(2053)

on June 30, 2012
at 09:27 PM

Since the Depression, your grandpa's shelter has survived WWII, the Korean War, the Cuban Missile Crisis and entire cold war, Y2K, and the latest thing: the war on terror. It seems that the bomb shelter has been effective so far and will probably withstand the next bogeyman – whatever it may be. To answer your question, you’re going to have a tough time storing “paleo” food. If your concerns come to pass, you’ll be glad to have your grandparent’s rice & beans. If I were amassing an arsenal of guns and ammunition and a stockpile of food, I would prolly not be writing about it on the interwebs.

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on July 01, 2012
at 12:51 AM

I love you, too, Ralph. I'm a bit of a firecracker, myself :) Good night mate, no worries. Let's shake virtual hands.

A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

(2053)

on June 30, 2012
at 06:22 PM

The point was that people can always find things to fear and most of them need not be feared. I would say that if you are living in America, in 2012, you probably needn't fear barbarians, witches, conquistadors, black people, crusaders, airstrikes, cavalry or legions, or anything else that we can collectively think up. The OP is referring to building and stocking a bunker. That is a symptom of fear - plain and simple. To combat this fear you can do things to work on building community and getting to know other people. Perhaps you and at least one other reader failed to get that.

A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

(2053)

on June 30, 2012
at 11:31 PM

Far, far, from it, Lyndsay. And the spear comment in my original answer was a tongue-in-cheek remark that was obviously intended as such. The title of your question is "Paleo Bomb Shelter". You don't build a bomb shelter unless you're scared of a bomb. Anyway, good luck to you. I wish you well. I'm done with this.

A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

(2053)

on June 30, 2012
at 10:57 PM

Lyndsay, your comment shows the kind of relish that one might expect from someone who is fortunate enough to have never seen the unfortunate results of violence. I think we can conclude this debate now so that you can get back to your reloading press and food dehydrator. I wish you well.

A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

(2053)

on June 30, 2012
at 09:54 PM

You are stockpiling an arsenal of weapons in some sort of underground bunker and you ask what is wrong with me? I don't even know how to respond to that...I honestly don't. Good luck to you, Lyndsay.

A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

(2053)

on June 30, 2012
at 10:53 PM

The things that you mentioned earlier don’t just materialize from the atmosphere, or start with, as you put it, “men without honor or dreams of domination and power.” These things are effects. They are created as a fear response. The mechanism may be different, but the fuel is the same. I get the sense that you see the trees, but not the forest.

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on June 30, 2012
at 09:33 PM

what the hell is wrong with you?

A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

(2053)

on June 30, 2012
at 06:29 PM

The point was that people can always find things to fear and most of them need not be feared. I would say that if you are living in America, in 2012, you probably needn't fear barbarians, witches, conquistadors, black people, crusaders, airstrikes, cavalry or legions, or anything else that we can collectively think up. The OP is referring to building and stocking a bunker. That is a symptom of fear - plain and simple. To combat this fear you can do things to work on building community and getting to know other people.

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on June 30, 2012
at 11:11 PM

You are crazy, Ralph. Insane. How can you deduce such things from anything I posted? As, I've stated, it's my grandfather who has the shelter, food storage, and guns. You know nothing about what I've seen or been through, in regards to violence. You are irrational. You have stated, "just have a sharper spear than the other guy." You make absolutely no sense. What does being prepared for disaster have anything to do with fear? Wow. Just, wow.

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on June 30, 2012
at 07:27 PM

No, it's not a symptom of my fear- it's simply being smart and prepared for anything, like power outages, earthquakes, tornados, you name it. My grandparents are the ones who have the shelter and food provisions. Having grown up in the Great Depression, my grandfather instilled in me the value of being prepared for hard times. As far as taking our supplies, well, we also have an arsenal of guns and know how to use them :)

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on June 30, 2012
at 10:12 PM

I'd say we'll have better luck than you, Ralph :)

A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

(2053)

on June 30, 2012
at 10:53 PM

Blossom, I think that the point may have gone zipping over your head like one of Lyndsay's errant target rounds. The point was that these things are based on irrational fear. Irrational fear often leads to prejudice and things like legions, airstrikes, cavalry, lynch mobs, which I grant, have been things worthy of some level of fear...

1296f5fecd084f101d7c5fbe013f07eb

(1213)

on June 30, 2012
at 10:05 PM

You're equating fear of airstrikes and bombs with prejudices against various groups. One can be legitimate depending on where you live, the other is irrational. Not everyone on this site lives in America. Re: the Depression - that was only one generation or so ago, depending on how old you are. I know people still living who recall chewing on shoe leather during that time to stave off hunger pains.

A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

(2053)

on June 30, 2012
at 09:29 PM

It's your time and your dime...spend them how you will. Good luck to you. At the end of the day, if you’re happy “prepping” then that’s all that really matters. It’s just not how I choose to live. I think I'm going to go welcome my new neighbors to the neighborhood. And by the way, I truly did not mean to end up in a thing with you about this, but this cultural undercurrent of fear of calamity seems to be getting stronger and I find it a bit strange and concerning. Heck, we're even talking about doomsday prepping on PaleoHacks.

A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

(2053)

on July 01, 2012
at 12:42 AM

Lyndsay - In all seriousness, I've been a bit starved for spirited debate lately and I have enjoyed this. You’re one tough gluten free cookie and I will leave your shelter alone during the zombie apocalypse! Of course, I don't like the idea of having to defend myself against my neighbors in order to have food. I certainly don't want to fantasize about it and I'm sure that you feel the same way.

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on June 30, 2012
at 10:18 AM

Where do you live that you need a bimb shelter?

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