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What was Paleo sex life like?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created November 08, 2011 at 5:45 AM

What was Paleo sex life like? How often did men have sex? How often did they, uh, take care of themselves? Did they stay with one mate their whole lives or did it come and go? Did habits change by season or other factors?

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

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on November 12, 2011
at 01:14 AM

btw read Sapolsky essays 'the trouble with testerone'. in stags and male primates who have harems (and humans??!) they have staggeringly high cortisol. they have to on high guard, never knowing when they'll lose their alpha rank and overpowered. Maybe this is why human longevity is conversely better and marvelous in males in long stable pair-bonds?

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

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on November 12, 2011
at 01:01 AM

+20 and keep flashing those abs. they drive up my T and I don't care.

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

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on November 12, 2011
at 01:01 AM

It is true. ICU studies back this observation- higher T cases have lower ICU survival. I believe however this maybe justifiable where cortiosol also is high and progesterone/dhea low, and the studies fail to get to whole hormonal signature and pattern. one testerone conecentration is rather irrelevant without measuring the concomitant estrogens, progsterone, dhea, etc.

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on November 10, 2011
at 04:18 AM

;) . .

1c67bc28f4e44bbb8770b86df0463df3

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on November 10, 2011
at 04:18 AM

Too bad for every study that puts "TESTOSTERONE" in a bad light, there are 10,000 that speak its virtues.

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on November 09, 2011
at 02:13 PM

"Just as a stag is designed by sexual selection for battle with sexual rivals and a Peacock is designed for seduction, so a mans psychology is designed to do things that put his survival at risk but increase his chances of acquiring or retaining one or more high quality mates. TESTOSTERONE ITSELF,THE VERY ELIXER OF MASCULINITY, INCREASES SUSCEPTIBILITY TO INFECTIOUS DISEASE." (Ridley, Mathew J. 2003 The Red Queen Pp 20-21.)

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on November 08, 2011
at 11:30 PM

Maleness is not a disease state.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on November 08, 2011
at 10:53 PM

plus one...........

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on November 08, 2011
at 10:53 PM

plus one.......

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on November 08, 2011
at 09:21 PM

Who knows really. The pygmies are not paleolithic. And that studied only looked at married men. Probably people had all kinds of sexual traditions. Some Melanesians, for example, practice ritualized homosexuality.

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on November 08, 2011
at 06:38 PM

All apes practice masturbation and exhibit homosexuality. Except, oddly enough, certain human groups when it comes to self-reported practices. http://youtu.be/JNj9UJmAnC4 http://youtu.be/MOpMsuz_uK4

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on November 08, 2011
at 04:40 PM

How exactly does testosterone lower lifespan??

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on November 08, 2011
at 02:37 PM

why would they masturbate? masturbation seems to be a neolithic response to neolithic stimuli, whereas these people seem to have the bliss of ignorant simplicity guiding their rods (pun intended). wish i could ease my mind back to that point. focusing on the hunt, the gather, the defense, the community, rather than being a society of "progress" or convenience which leaves our basest instincts useless and renders us slaves to anxiety-driven selfish desires. i honestly bet they don't have sexual harassment problems either, or if they do, it really is a "village idiot" type of situation. Blissful

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on November 08, 2011
at 02:10 PM

^Hahah these guys actually had to resort to sex as a substitute for masturbation

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on November 08, 2011
at 08:11 AM

Daniel, did you actually read the study? A quote from it: "Masturbation also appears to be rare in other forest areas. We asked Robert Bailey (personal communication) about his experiences of trying collect semen for fertility studies from Lese men in the Ituri forest of the Democratic Republic of Congo. He indicated it was very difficult to explain to men how to self-stimulate to obtain semen samples. He said that despite explicit and lengthy instructions three of four semen specimens came to him mixed with vaginal secretions."

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on November 08, 2011
at 07:33 AM

And if you believe that, I'll be happy to sell you Michelle Obama.

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1c67bc28f4e44bbb8770b86df0463df3

on November 08, 2011
at 10:40 PM

Its so easy, even a caveman can do it.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on November 08, 2011
at 10:53 PM

plus one.......

1c67bc28f4e44bbb8770b86df0463df3

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on November 10, 2011
at 04:18 AM

;) . .

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5e36f73c3f95eb4ea13a009f4936449f

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on November 08, 2011
at 10:26 PM

I'd say the sex was good enough for Mankind to survive and thrive. :)

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on November 08, 2011
at 10:53 PM

plus one...........

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Aa5e411ac90ac543cdb7d06a812a908d

on November 08, 2011
at 06:59 AM

Melissa McEwen recently wrote an interesting blog post about sex in today's hunter-gatherer tribes. You might want to read it and the study she's talking about. Masturbation in these two tribes was unheard of, which was a pretty surprising piece of information for me at least.

25b139cc1954456d9ea469e40f984cd3

on November 08, 2011
at 07:33 AM

And if you believe that, I'll be happy to sell you Michelle Obama.

25b139cc1954456d9ea469e40f984cd3

on November 08, 2011
at 06:38 PM

All apes practice masturbation and exhibit homosexuality. Except, oddly enough, certain human groups when it comes to self-reported practices. http://youtu.be/JNj9UJmAnC4 http://youtu.be/MOpMsuz_uK4

Ae4d2eb4ca16ca45d98cd199837de092

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on November 08, 2011
at 02:37 PM

why would they masturbate? masturbation seems to be a neolithic response to neolithic stimuli, whereas these people seem to have the bliss of ignorant simplicity guiding their rods (pun intended). wish i could ease my mind back to that point. focusing on the hunt, the gather, the defense, the community, rather than being a society of "progress" or convenience which leaves our basest instincts useless and renders us slaves to anxiety-driven selfish desires. i honestly bet they don't have sexual harassment problems either, or if they do, it really is a "village idiot" type of situation. Blissful

Aa5e411ac90ac543cdb7d06a812a908d

(446)

on November 08, 2011
at 08:11 AM

Daniel, did you actually read the study? A quote from it: "Masturbation also appears to be rare in other forest areas. We asked Robert Bailey (personal communication) about his experiences of trying collect semen for fertility studies from Lese men in the Ituri forest of the Democratic Republic of Congo. He indicated it was very difficult to explain to men how to self-stimulate to obtain semen samples. He said that despite explicit and lengthy instructions three of four semen specimens came to him mixed with vaginal secretions."

5ef574d7893bc816ec52e04139e9bc09

(6097)

on November 08, 2011
at 02:10 PM

^Hahah these guys actually had to resort to sex as a substitute for masturbation

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on November 08, 2011
at 09:21 PM

Who knows really. The pygmies are not paleolithic. And that studied only looked at married men. Probably people had all kinds of sexual traditions. Some Melanesians, for example, practice ritualized homosexuality.

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E286e6ba6ef6c4c4a31a749e59aa57e1

on November 08, 2011
at 01:24 PM

Thats crazy because many primates masturbate. In my opinion you had sex as much as your options let you. Im sure there was jockeying for most attractive and young able to breed females. I find it apparent that females have generally selected for two attributes.

1) "winners" of physical contests 2) selection of some type and larger genitalia in males.

I make the first assumption purely based on the fact that men have testosterone levels much higher than women which effectively shorten a males lifespan and make him more susceptible to disease.

The second assumption is the fact that compared to all living primates, humans have the largest penises, even when accounting for a difference in body size. Not to mention much larger testes indicate a track record of polygamy, giving the male the ability to copulate and ejaculate many times in a day.

"One characteristic among primates has been clearly targeted for possible selection by Fisherian female choice--male penis size. Primate males living in groups with many females and many males, groups in which promiscuity is the mating rule, have long penes (Dixon 1978). Male chimps, in fact, use their penis for display toward estrous females. Because a longer penis would give a female pleasure (note that the human male has the longest and thickest penis of any primate), female choice might have been a factor driving penis length to extremes among primates." (Small, Meredith F. (1993) Female choices: Sexual behavior of female primates. Cornell Univ. Press, Ithaca, 1993 pp. 109)

3193ead7a301b741aafa193c4476edea

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on November 08, 2011
at 04:40 PM

How exactly does testosterone lower lifespan??

1c67bc28f4e44bbb8770b86df0463df3

(6719)

on November 10, 2011
at 04:18 AM

Too bad for every study that puts "TESTOSTERONE" in a bad light, there are 10,000 that speak its virtues.

E286e6ba6ef6c4c4a31a749e59aa57e1

(608)

on November 09, 2011
at 02:13 PM

"Just as a stag is designed by sexual selection for battle with sexual rivals and a Peacock is designed for seduction, so a mans psychology is designed to do things that put his survival at risk but increase his chances of acquiring or retaining one or more high quality mates. TESTOSTERONE ITSELF,THE VERY ELIXER OF MASCULINITY, INCREASES SUSCEPTIBILITY TO INFECTIOUS DISEASE." (Ridley, Mathew J. 2003 The Red Queen Pp 20-21.)

Medium avatar

(39831)

on November 08, 2011
at 11:30 PM

Maleness is not a disease state.

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on November 12, 2011
at 01:01 AM

+20 and keep flashing those abs. they drive up my T and I don't care.

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on November 12, 2011
at 01:01 AM

It is true. ICU studies back this observation- higher T cases have lower ICU survival. I believe however this maybe justifiable where cortiosol also is high and progesterone/dhea low, and the studies fail to get to whole hormonal signature and pattern. one testerone conecentration is rather irrelevant without measuring the concomitant estrogens, progsterone, dhea, etc.

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on November 12, 2011
at 01:14 AM

btw read Sapolsky essays 'the trouble with testerone'. in stags and male primates who have harems (and humans??!) they have staggeringly high cortisol. they have to on high guard, never knowing when they'll lose their alpha rank and overpowered. Maybe this is why human longevity is conversely better and marvelous in males in long stable pair-bonds?

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