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Sexual Abstinence and Strength Gains

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created October 14, 2010 at 6:04 PM

Has anyone noticed increases in strength, etc, from sexual abstinence, or are there any professional studies to support the idea that abstaining from sex improves muscular growth in terms of strength, physical functionality, etc? In Chinese medicine, there is a concept that the seminal essence must be conserved and retained to ensure optimal vitality in males, and to a lesser degree the vaginal fluids. I'm not sure if I agree completely with this idea, but would love to hear what others have to say or know. I feel that this kind of topic directly relates to paleo lifestyle also. No vulgarity please

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on October 14, 2010
at 10:45 PM

Robb Wolf says life can be considered as consisting of eating, sleeping, and sex in it's simplest form. I think the topic could be delved into much more in an appropriate manner, and open up alot of knowledge that supports paleo lifestyle.

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on October 14, 2010
at 10:41 PM

Why? it's a question concerning the best practices for vitality as related to ancestral health.

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on October 14, 2010
at 09:54 PM

totally off topic

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on October 14, 2010
at 08:51 PM

Care to explain *how* to have an orgasm without ejaculating? I thought either one implies the other, for males.

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on October 14, 2010
at 08:49 PM

I think I'd rather exhibit lower strength and physical functionality, thank you very much...

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on October 14, 2010
at 07:39 PM

I have no idea, but would it be worth it??? And how would this relate to paleo lifestyle?

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on October 14, 2010
at 07:36 PM

I have no idea, but would it be worth it????

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on October 14, 2010
at 06:50 PM

Witholding all the time, could possibly lead to anxiety though. Glad this forum is a place for serious discussion.

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on October 14, 2010
at 06:49 PM

Good info, I believe that the taoist practices are very useful. Definitely, have better training days after withholding, but not always.

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on October 14, 2010
at 06:46 PM

ive heard of post orgasm knee weakness in men and women. This could be due to opiate like chemicals being released though.

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on October 14, 2010
at 06:46 PM

Sexula habits in lions from what i've heard tend to be driven by seasonal factors. A zoologist friend of mine told me of an alpha male lion that had sex only a few times a year and still retained status.

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at 06:44 PM

I just remembered something very interesting I had to add: Muhammad Ali would not come during the period of time he was training for a fight, believing that it seriously affected his performance. Miles Davis, also, wouldn't come if he was going to perform, as it drained him of the energy needed.

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on October 14, 2010
at 06:37 PM

Unfortunately I don't know of any "professional studies" that support the idea that sexual abstinence has that effect, but fortunately it's not a very difficult thing to test on oneself. I have done this and found that sexual abstinence does in fact have benefits for strength, energy, and mental functioning/mood. I have to clarify though that when I say sexual abstinence I mean (speaking strictly from a man's perspective here) retention of the semen, ie abstaining from ejaculation, not necessarily sexual activity altogether. Think about this for a second: semen is a substance that holds the power, when combined with the proper ingredients from the female, and under the right conditions, to bring a brand new human being into existence. Seems like holding on to that might have some benefits, whereas releasing it constantly may have some effect on performance. This is a majorly important component of Tantric practices and taoists know very well how to manage this energy optimally. The world of sexuality minus the release of semen as the be all end all of a sexual encounter is pretty interesting, it runs sort of contrary to most people's preferences but it's definitely possible to orgasm without ejaculation and it's really a totally different sexual practice. I have heard some things about the neurochemical reactions that occur with ejaculation, and the "hangover" that results. Have any men ever noticed how the buildup to ejaculation escalates and escalates and then just drops you down, way down to almost zero and you want to just fall into a deep slumber? In short I tend to notice that release of semen definitely has negative effects, whereas sexual activity without that release is actually energizing, improves concentration and mood. I'd be very interested to hear anyone else's thoughts on this. Hope I wasn't too graphic!

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on October 14, 2010
at 06:50 PM

Witholding all the time, could possibly lead to anxiety though. Glad this forum is a place for serious discussion.

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on October 14, 2010
at 06:44 PM

I just remembered something very interesting I had to add: Muhammad Ali would not come during the period of time he was training for a fight, believing that it seriously affected his performance. Miles Davis, also, wouldn't come if he was going to perform, as it drained him of the energy needed.

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on October 14, 2010
at 06:49 PM

Good info, I believe that the taoist practices are very useful. Definitely, have better training days after withholding, but not always.

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on October 14, 2010
at 06:18 PM

I'm no expert here, but that sounds like the opposite of how nature works to me. Does the alpha lion or wolf abstain to keep status as alpha (a position held through strength)?

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on October 14, 2010
at 06:46 PM

Sexula habits in lions from what i've heard tend to be driven by seasonal factors. A zoologist friend of mine told me of an alpha male lion that had sex only a few times a year and still retained status.

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on October 14, 2010
at 06:33 PM

Yes! Anecdotally, my best strength gains were during nadirs in sexual activity. And recent sexual activity more often than not led to less than optimal gym performance.

Although I read some studies to the contrary, I tend to believe that women do in fact weaken the knees. Women, is this true for the reverse?

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on October 14, 2010
at 06:46 PM

ive heard of post orgasm knee weakness in men and women. This could be due to opiate like chemicals being released though.

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on October 14, 2010
at 07:18 PM

For a truly wonderful resource on this subject, check out some of the older books of Mantak Chia. Really useful stuff. There's for sure a divided consensus on it. I remember some big time sports coaches preaching abstinence, and other coaches inviting wives to hotels before big games.

Personally I've noticed a "lack of focus" for the big game if there was "loving" the night before. Not necessarily a drop in strenght. You can have wonderful orgasms without ejaculation and I concur that it's extremely "energising" vs orgasms with ejacualtion.

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on October 14, 2010
at 08:51 PM

Care to explain *how* to have an orgasm without ejaculating? I thought either one implies the other, for males.

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