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Lack of Sex Drive

Answered on September 19, 2014
Created July 09, 2012 at 4:11 AM

All right, I've officially hit a low point (I think) when asking random strangers to hack my libido (NOT LITERALLY!!).

Since eating ancestral, I've had amazing benefits come forth, and while I'm still working on digestive issues (which I'm becoming more positive I can fix now--credit to so many other wonderful people on here!) one of the side effects I've noticed is a rather non-existent sex drive. People mention hypothyroid, but I literally just had a thyroid panel 3 weeks ago, and everything was smack dab in the middle, so I'm positive it's not that.

It's not that I cannot perform; I simply have no interest in it. It seems like I've become preoccupied with everything else in life, and sex just doesn't seem matter at all anymore. While I'm glad it does not dominate my life as it does some of my friends (men AND women included), it's rather disappointing to not desire companionship at this point.

3d0093dd591d9b88db74d7bba970dea0

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on July 31, 2012
at 02:07 PM

That seems right on to me. It's still pretty individual with weights. Do you periodize your weight training? I'm bad at it, but it will ensure you don't dig any holes with your lifting.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on July 11, 2012
at 03:06 AM

"what consenting adults do in private is completely their own business and should not be judged" Sometimes true. Sometimes not (drunk driving). But people have the right to know what is good and bad for them. If smoking gives you lung cancer - you have the right to know. If being a vegetarian may destroy your health - you have the right to know. If porn is highly addictive and why it is so addictive - you have the right to know about it too. What we do not know may kill us (like in my case).

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 11, 2012
at 02:58 AM

Just by briefly looking at the article - that study is definitely not longitudinal with no control group. It reflect's people's view of porn in their lives, i.e. "men and women generally consider hardcore pornography a positive influence in their lives". Here is another quote "Lead author Martin Hald concedes that people generally view themselves as relatively immune to harmful media effects". People generally view themselves - this is the key phrase. How people view themselves and what is going on in their brains are two different things.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on July 11, 2012
at 02:49 AM

The reason why is really very simple: what consenting adults do in private is completely their own business and should not be judged. Also, I find your argument that you have the RIGHT to moralize incredibly repugnant.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 11, 2012
at 02:45 AM

And you are not a porn-addicted teenager. You are a person who defends porn which makes me think of reasons why.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 11, 2012
at 02:44 AM

Thank you for the link, I will look into it.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

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on July 11, 2012
at 02:41 AM

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=the-sunny-side-of-smut http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200801/vice-or-virtue-the-pros-pornography

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on July 11, 2012
at 02:39 AM

All you have shown is that porn addiction is a bad thing. Which I agree with. I see no studies indicating that the use of pornography itself is a bad thing. Until then, it's just another moral crusade. Knowledge does not give anyone the right to moralize, because knowledge is not about morals. Knowledge is about facts, and calling me a porn-addicted teenager doesn't help your case. If you don't understand the difference between porn addiction being bad and pornography itself being bad, I can't imagine anything that would make sense to you. And with that, I leave you the following articles:

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on July 11, 2012
at 02:22 AM

Sorry - Mark's Daily Apple. One of the biggest paleo sites online. I was typing on my phone and I guess I accidentally truncated the message.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 11, 2012
at 02:08 AM

Knowledge gives people the right to moralize. Unfortunately, it is not defensiveness - it is hatred, so it is even worse. I hate it when people say things that are unfounded and not true. Please provide at least ONE longitudinal study that would prove that porn is not harmful to you. I would love your opinions to be backed up by science. Any links would be welcome.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

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on July 10, 2012
at 10:44 PM

Sounds like too low Cholesterol is not an issue. I would recommend you NOT take oral Dhea as it easily converts to estrogen but sub-lingual or cream (would likely need an RX) might be helpful.. not sure but many do take it for increasing Testosterone. Metatetrix makes a sub-lingual spray.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 10, 2012
at 10:43 PM

Sounds like too low Cholesterol is not an issue. I would recommend you NOT take oral Dhea as it easily converts to estrogen but sub-lingual or cream (would likely need an RX) might be helpful.. not sure but many do take it for increasing Testostersone. Metatetrix makes a sub-lingual spray.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on July 10, 2012
at 08:21 PM

Being a teacher or going to college does not give you the right to moralize. -Nothing- gives -anyone- the -right- to moralize. That you think so is a reflection of you. I am also not a teenager, but thanks for playing. Your defensiveness is showing and it's not attractive.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on July 10, 2012
at 08:16 PM

Luckie, so many men's lives are destroyed because of porn. So many men do not know how real sex feels like because of porn. So many men have to take viagra because of porn and you still think it is okay? Lip balm and collecting dolls does not rewire your brain. I have the right to be moralizing - I am a teacher with 18 years of experience and two Master's degrees. If you can match my credentials, I would love to hear your opinion. If not - keep on learning. I wonder if I used to be like that back in my teen days.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on July 10, 2012
at 07:59 PM

PS - I'm a woman, too.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

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on July 10, 2012
at 07:56 PM

That's really funny, because I have actually only watched porn four or five times, and that is all in the last year or so. It isn't really my thing, but I don't see what the big deal is. All it made me think was, "Oh hey, that looks fun. Next time I see my friend, maybe we can try that." Sure, people can take watching porn too far - they can also take lip balm too far, or Paleo, or collecting dolls. Just because some people develop a problem doesn't mean that it is an evil thing. Moralizing with psuedo-science, however, is, IMHO, an evil thing. You can find a study that can back up anything.

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on July 10, 2012
at 07:50 PM

@ VB- I personally do not watch porn, but why are you against masturbation? Seems like a perfectly normal and healthy activity to me. Hell, my dog masturbates all the time by humping the sofa, the chair, the pillow, etc. It's natural.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 10, 2012
at 07:46 PM

So you did watch them :) I know exactly what male performing is, even though I am a woman - I was just very lucky. No, "my" scientific studies are supported by numerous other sources (not just that guy, although he is very good at explaining the mechanics). Maybe YOU THINK that porn does not decrease your desire because, as that guy in the video said, you have no control group? How about taking a porn-free challenge for a month? I bet you cannot even live a week without that stuff...

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on July 10, 2012
at 07:22 PM

Of course it's better to have sex with a real person you like, if you can, than to sit at home by yourself and wank. No one is saying "masturbation instead of sex." It seems like maybe you don't know what male performing is, if you don't know it's not the same as libido. If you don't like porn, don't watch, but I don't see why you should have a problem with other grown-ups doing what they want so long as they aren't harming anyone. I think your "scientific studies" are a bit biased. Furthermore, N=1. I can say that for me, porn does not decrease my desire to have fun with a girl or guy. YMMV.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 10, 2012
at 06:52 PM

@Slippery Nick - I don't think you know what performing actually is. Never mind, I don't think I want to go into that.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 10, 2012
at 06:44 PM

lol. Sorry. I'm enthusiastic. I just noted that a bunch of people recommended this and then you mentioned the things that could have lowered your level so... why not just get it checked and know for sure. Im thinking you are young, 20-30 right? Your level should be high, the high end of the reference range for Free Testosterone (upper 1/3)

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 10, 2012
at 07:52 AM

Here is a great link about porn (Lucky, don't watch). The videos (second on the right) are especially interesting. http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 10, 2012
at 06:45 AM

Masturbation is not unhealthy but when you do it with an actual person you like, it produces more oxytocin and dopamine in your brain.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 10, 2012
at 06:42 AM

@Rignton - this is what research clearly shows.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 10, 2012
at 06:41 AM

@Lucky - the research shows that porn also LOWERS your libido. It increases your drive to watch more porn and decreases your drive to do anything with a woman. Keep watching porn! This planet is already overpopulated, we don't need more people having sex.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on July 10, 2012
at 05:07 AM

PS - what is moderation when it comes to masturbation?

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on July 10, 2012
at 05:07 AM

People can take anything too far. In the cases you mentioned, porn wasn't the problem - the person's addiction to it / fetish was the problem. But as a single picky girl who doesn't get kicks as often as she'd like, sometimes I just need to see Manuel Ferrera or Sasha Grey doing something real nasty.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on July 10, 2012
at 05:04 AM

I feel your pain, Rigton. It's a bitch being a nerd who likes brains and a foodie narcissist who can't settle for someone who doesn't adore themselves enough to do what they can to look good.

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 10, 2012
at 04:30 AM

I have to ask. You say that like there's a major red flag. Mind if I ask what set off the abundance of exclamation points???

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 10, 2012
at 04:24 AM

And Lyndsay, one last thing. I write comic books...checkmate.

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 10, 2012
at 04:23 AM

Lyndsay: It's possible. I'm a very focused person when I feel passionate about something/someone...which sounds kind of creepy I guess, but I simply mean to say that I always like to put my all into something--man...this is all coming out wrong, haha...I'M A FOCUSED PERSON!

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 10, 2012
at 04:21 AM

The fact you have Stephen Colbert as your icon makes me want to upvote everything you say...Gah! Get out of my mind! I'll check my testosterone here in a month or so when I can pay for the test cash (when my cholesterol registered "high" my insurance rose...goddamn CW).

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 10, 2012
at 04:19 AM

OKAY and THANKS! Haha...sorry! Thank you for the comment though, :).

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 10, 2012
at 04:17 AM

1 tbsp of coconut oil per meal (roughly 4-6 times a day), plus fatty cuts of meat. I could plug it in to fitday...or whatever program you could recommend. And...MDA? I'm not looking to lose weight, by the way. I'm pretty happy with my weight--in fact, I'm trying to pack on more muscle now that I'm feeling better.

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 10, 2012
at 04:16 AM

2-3 days a week of weights, and walking for an hour 4 times a week. I don't think that's too much, do you? (That's not sarcasm, by the way--personal experience has taught me that is pretty moderate).

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 10, 2012
at 04:15 AM

The God particle. Shortly to be followed by the Jesus gene, and let's face it--saturated fat, red meat, and cholesterol are already called The Devil...

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 10, 2012
at 04:13 AM

I'm sorry; I can't get past your name. This is all I can think of, and if you get the reference, you shall forever be my hero. http://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters/glacius-s.gif

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 10, 2012
at 04:12 AM

I have, in all fairness, seen many relationships affected by it, however. The man/woman no longer has interest in sex with their partner because it's not what they consider normal anymore. That being said, what you state about monogamous ancestral relationships is most likely accurate. Males in most species are driven to "plant the seed" to dominate various groups, areas, tribes, ect. Hell, Genghis Khan still owns half the world be his libido alone!

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on July 10, 2012
at 04:11 AM

That's one sexy Boson!

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 10, 2012
at 04:02 AM

In other words, okay to play solitaire, so long as you realize poker is a much better game!

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 10, 2012
at 04:01 AM

VB, I'm going to come to your defense as best I can here. I think that porn can absolutely have a negative impact on sex drive. I know couples that have broken up because of his/her addictions to porn. Real sex didn't interest them anymore because they were so ingrained with what was on their computer or dvd sex that didn't involve cheerleader outfits, threesomes, or bondage seemed boring to them. Now, that being said, I don't think masturbation in itself is unhealthy. Like working out, sleep, getting out into the sun or ANYTHING moderation is the key ultimately.

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 10, 2012
at 03:57 AM

I'm definitely picky. Ask any of my friends. The irony is, while I want someone who I'm physically attracted to, it's the intellectual side of relationships that complicates things for me. I want someone intelligent, quick wit, the whole package, so to speak. That's a tough find, and at this point in my life, I'm not willing to settle for anything else. However, seeing everyone getting married or being carefree about the situation does make me feel isolated to a certain extent. Not enough to change. Just enough to feel isolated.

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 10, 2012
at 03:50 AM

Definitely where I'll look first. At least, before I give the natural ways to increase testosterone awhile. Thanks!

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 10, 2012
at 03:49 AM

Sooo...you hear the word "spread" and you immediately pull of Microsoft Excel and open a spreadsheet now? Hah! Joking! I know what you mean though about stress. I may have one or two signs of low testosterone, BUT I think stress is much more likely, and in a way stress or testosterone, testosterone or stress, doesn't matter, both cause each other. Thankfully, I got rid of my stressful ex a month or so ago.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on July 10, 2012
at 02:24 AM

I'm a physics nerd... imagine how I feel with all the Higgsteria going on ;)

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on July 10, 2012
at 02:22 AM

Amen! A girl (or guy) has got to do what they've got to do to amuse themselves!

D5d982a898721d3392c85f951d0bf0aa

(2417)

on July 10, 2012
at 02:02 AM

wha wha whaaa? (Channeling Kyle's Mom here) Orgasms beget orgasms. I vote for staying sexual while single. Let the happy chemicals flow and stay in touch with the erotic. Otherwise, isn't the OP just giving up?

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 10, 2012
at 01:36 AM

Get your testosterone levels checked!!!

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on July 10, 2012
at 01:08 AM

And... why is it a good thing to stop masturbation?

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on July 10, 2012
at 12:11 AM

I wrote and answer a minute ago and then just saw this. Foods high zinc are beneficial to T production (oysters are awesome for this). Also, apparently onion juice increases T levels by 300%. Eating cruciferous vegetables can help detoxify estrogen out of the body. Having a lower body fat reduces the potential for aromatization of testosterone to estrogen. onions, oysters, and kale. Get your sleep in order too as that's probably the biggest contributing factor. It will resolve itself and is probably some sort of character building experience like most other forms of adversity.

1f91fa5584b27c2c7fc0cf1f97a386c5

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on July 09, 2012
at 11:59 PM

I concur with Luckie. My interest in sex as dropped off a cliff, yet am quite capable of performing multiple times in a... sitting? lying? laying?

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on July 09, 2012
at 10:21 PM

Heheh, yeah, both sides of the spectrum can be frustrating. It's also obnoxious to be at the movies with a date and sitting there thinking, "Okay, when is this movie going to be over so we can go hump?" ;)

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on July 09, 2012
at 09:58 PM

Yes. Or a man can have high libido and perform badly.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 09, 2012
at 09:30 PM

So you mean you can have a low libido and perform well?

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on July 09, 2012
at 09:05 PM

Performance isn't the same as libido, at all.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 09, 2012
at 09:04 PM

They can disagree with me, but they cannot disagree with science. And, according to research, men who watch porn perform worse than those who do not due to reset dopamine levels. I know a great website that will teach you all about how bad porn is for you. Also there is an link on Melissa's blog about hunter-gatherer's sex life. They do not watch porn and can go up to 5 times per night in their forties. Just sharing my knowledge.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on July 09, 2012
at 09:02 PM

Why do you think the 'net was born? Porn porn porn! The internet is for porn!

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on July 09, 2012
at 08:55 PM

The porn thing, I think lots of people (men and women) who are motivated by visual stimulation would disagree with you...

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

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on July 09, 2012
at 08:47 PM

Also, again to be fair to my herbalist, my sleep has been terribly inconsistent these past few months. Some nights I'll be in bed by 9pm, others at 6am.

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 09, 2012
at 08:46 PM

Sigh, at first my response would have been "no", but after doing some research, and remembering things, I was on licorice and wild yam for digestive issues for several months (both of which raise estrogen levels). To be fair though, I have stopped those awhile back, so I would have thought my levels would have started rising. Any ways to naturally raise testosterone levels (I'm trying to avoid supplements for right now because of my sensitive digestion). Isn't liver a couple of times a week supposed to raise testosterone?

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 09, 2012
at 08:35 PM

Ok thanks.. Yep true "loss of libido" I agree that you should get your testosterone levels checked and also make sure your cholesterol is not too low. Is there anything you are taking that could lower your testosterone? DHEA for example can turn into estrogen....

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on July 09, 2012
at 02:54 PM

Get your testosterone level checked.

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on July 09, 2012
at 01:53 PM

You didn't say what is happening that is preoccupying you. Stress plays a huge factor in addition to your diet. Are there things about your environment that is causing stress or anything? Work, activity level, family? Just curious as maybe it's multiple factors..

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

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on July 09, 2012
at 08:12 AM

Yep, bingo (or  Yahtzee, if you prefer). I stopped self-fulfillment completely a couple of months ago. It became a chore, and the thing is I've never been into porn, so I can't really blame it on the burnout theory.

6b365c14c646462210f3ef6b6fecace1

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on July 09, 2012
at 06:41 AM

@inegol - i wonder if you should up your carbs at other times besides RIGHT after an intense workout session... i wonder it that would make a difference. What is your carb intake on non work out days?

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

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on July 09, 2012
at 06:30 AM

That's putting a rather positive spin on it, haha. It's nice to not feel like a horn-dog 24/7, but it's rather difficult to date when your partner says, "Let's go back to my place," and your response is, "Why? What's at your place?"

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

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on July 09, 2012
at 06:25 AM

I'm with Sunshine - a few more carbs may help you there. Depending on your size, you might not have to get up to 250g, but since it seems like it might be hard to get that high, go for it and see how far you can get! But... your problem sounds rather nice, compared with the frustration of the other side of the spectrum. ;)

2fd566cefde2de38e75e1bc13a966e16

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on July 09, 2012
at 06:02 AM

Depending on your fist size a sweet potato is probably closer to 200-300 calories so at least 50g of carbs each. That's if you're calling a medium sweet potato fist-sized. Maybe weigh them? If you do squash a lot that is significantly less calorically dense (about 250 calories for an entire acorn squash and <500 for an ENTIRE butternut squash). I'm interested in this question because I've noticed the same, and I do leangains so on training days I'm eating at least 300g of carbs, so I know in my case at least it's not LC.

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

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on July 09, 2012
at 05:00 AM

Oh, wow. I did not realize it was that low. I seem to do better with starches than fruit...how in the world am I going to get 250 grams, hahahaha? I shall eat like an Irishmen coming out of a potato famine! (I'm half-Irish; I'm allowed to make that joke!)

6b365c14c646462210f3ef6b6fecace1

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on July 09, 2012
at 04:55 AM

i think a medium potato has about 30grams of carbs. so...90 grams. i think that's pretty low. I would aim for about 250 grams and try to get it in different forms, meaning fruits and starches. good luck :-)

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

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on July 09, 2012
at 04:43 AM

I'm not sure what dictates LC anymore, haha. Here's what I eat on a daily basis (I typically eat 4-5 meals a day): 3-4 oz meat/poultry/fish/pork, 2 cups of green veggies, 1 fist-sized serving of a starchy tuber (sweet potato, squash, ect.), 1 tbsp of fat. The starchy tuber serving I only have 3 times a day though.

6b365c14c646462210f3ef6b6fecace1

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on July 09, 2012
at 04:36 AM

i've noticed in this website that many people seem to encounter libido issues when going low carb. Is this the case for you?

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

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on July 09, 2012
at 04:30 AM

Close to six months strict AE (ancestral eating), and the libido thing has probably been going on for a couple of months. Sex just seems...meh, to me now, haha. No other way to describe it.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

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on July 09, 2012
at 04:18 AM

How long have you been eating ancestral, and how long have you felt like your libido is lower than you feel is normal for you?

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on July 09, 2012
at 03:12 PM

As a wife on the other end of the issue, I agree with some of the above, more carbs might be a part of the issue. Low carb works much better for me than for my husband. But in addition to diet you might want to look at some other things too. After a year and a half of messing with the issue, we are finally getting some answers. Found out that he had a low free testosterone level and overall testosterone is within normal but isn't overly high. He's muscular, not fat, can grow a beard like crazy and doesn't (as far as I'm concerned) seem like that would ever be an issue. Initially he responded well to paleo, but then crashed. Did better after we upped the carbs, and it worked better to use a few gluten free foods that were not so paleoish. But after a couple months again of lack of desire, not even wanting to snuggle, not even being able to keep up with the kids (this is the 51 year old guy who could play on a soccer team against the schools team and did amazing as the oldest one out there) I dragged him to my doctor this time and we finally started to get to the bottom of things.

For work physicals he's consistently had a higher bilirubin level, so I've been doing a little research into the whole B12 thing, which can also be linked with gut problems and malabsorbtion. Just started looking into a book "Could it be B12?" Anyway, still learning. But that's our story.

I think it's possible for a time to channel some of your energy into other areas of your life and maybe not even think about sex, especially if you aren't in any kind of special relationship. Even then, usually you feel some sort of stirring toward sex. But things like thyroid, low testosterone, low B12 can have long term consequences and you want to guard your health for when you do need that energy for the right person. If it didn't bother you you wouldn't be asking for help, so don't mess with your health. There could be far more than diet going on.

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Bf2291448a06d573f0fdc87cd514e512

on July 09, 2012
at 01:06 PM

There's a few things that always skyrocket my libido.

The first, as many have said, is carbs...and salt. Make sure your salt is up. The second is working out, or some high intensity thing. I'm not sure if it's because I feel on top of the world after, or if it's the shot of testosterone received for the workout, but regardless, it helps.

If you're youngish and ate SAD at one point and had a libido then, and now you don't, then carbs and salt should do it.

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66974b2cb291799dcd661b7dec99a9e2

(11121)

on July 09, 2012
at 02:16 PM

Just my personal experience - I have been LC for a few years and my libido is great, not that it was low before but my girlfriend has certainly noticed a positive difference. She keeps telling me that I am going through a second 'teenage hood' lol. I am pushing 50 and since going paleo women do seem to notice me more, a few months back two twenty-something girls chatted me up in the mall and just this weekend the girl at my local butcher made it very clear she was interested in me. Life is good.

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E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 09, 2012
at 08:52 PM

I appreciate everyone's responses! Thank you all so much for throwing in your two cents! Here's what I will say, as a general overall to some of the responses:

My B12 actually tested high (1094, I believe), so if low B12 causes problems, it's definitely not that.

My thyroid panel is smack dab in the middle as I said (so no thyroid issues)

My cholesterol was high (low triglycerides, though, and the LDL was Pattern A)

I've been working out 2 days a week--heavier weights, and sprinting/walking 3 days a week

My sleep is FUBAR'd to say the least. As I told Crowlover, sometimes I'm in bed by 9pm, other times I'm in bed by 6am.

Admittedly, I am stressed over various going-ons in life right now, and still somewhat fretful over my digestive issues (which I admit have gotten tremendously better, but I'm one of those people who sees "better" as "not perfect").

I can get testosterone levels checked, BUT I'd prefer not to have to pay for another test immediately. So, besides correcting sleep, lifting weights, and avoiding estrogenic foods are there any natural ways to increase testosterone--such as foods? I'd like to avoid adding more supplements in at the moment because of my digestion. Thanks so much, all!

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 10, 2012
at 10:43 PM

Sounds like too low Cholesterol is not an issue. I would recommend you NOT take oral Dhea as it easily converts to estrogen but sub-lingual or cream (would likely need an RX) might be helpful.. not sure but many do take it for increasing Testostersone. Metatetrix makes a sub-lingual spray.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on July 10, 2012
at 12:11 AM

I wrote and answer a minute ago and then just saw this. Foods high zinc are beneficial to T production (oysters are awesome for this). Also, apparently onion juice increases T levels by 300%. Eating cruciferous vegetables can help detoxify estrogen out of the body. Having a lower body fat reduces the potential for aromatization of testosterone to estrogen. onions, oysters, and kale. Get your sleep in order too as that's probably the biggest contributing factor. It will resolve itself and is probably some sort of character building experience like most other forms of adversity.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 10, 2012
at 10:44 PM

Sounds like too low Cholesterol is not an issue. I would recommend you NOT take oral Dhea as it easily converts to estrogen but sub-lingual or cream (would likely need an RX) might be helpful.. not sure but many do take it for increasing Testosterone. Metatetrix makes a sub-lingual spray.

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76026e8ef496039d5075440ff731aa0d

on July 09, 2012
at 08:28 AM

Is something effecting your testosterone?

Truth.

Medium avatar

(1029)

on July 09, 2012
at 02:54 PM

Get your testosterone level checked.

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 10, 2012
at 04:21 AM

The fact you have Stephen Colbert as your icon makes me want to upvote everything you say...Gah! Get out of my mind! I'll check my testosterone here in a month or so when I can pay for the test cash (when my cholesterol registered "high" my insurance rose...goddamn CW).

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26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on July 10, 2012
at 02:18 AM

Perhaps you are just "hot" for Paleo, at the moment. I know when I get really engrossed in something, a novel, or painting, or studies, sex is the last thing on my mind, and can be an annoyance. I can actually achieve a mind-orgasm over an amazing archeological finding, for example. I don' think you're as much of a dork as I am, but, well, sex does start in the mind- mental perceptions of pleasure and desire.

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 10, 2012
at 04:24 AM

And Lyndsay, one last thing. I write comic books...checkmate.

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on July 10, 2012
at 04:11 AM

That's one sexy Boson!

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 10, 2012
at 04:23 AM

Lyndsay: It's possible. I'm a very focused person when I feel passionate about something/someone...which sounds kind of creepy I guess, but I simply mean to say that I always like to put my all into something--man...this is all coming out wrong, haha...I'M A FOCUSED PERSON!

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on July 10, 2012
at 02:24 AM

I'm a physics nerd... imagine how I feel with all the Higgsteria going on ;)

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 10, 2012
at 04:15 AM

The God particle. Shortly to be followed by the Jesus gene, and let's face it--saturated fat, red meat, and cholesterol are already called The Devil...

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C6e32ff9978fe287aa8c1c6be52d9524

(1548)

on July 09, 2012
at 09:24 PM

Take a week off of training and focus on mobility and ART (Active Release Techniques) Eat seafood. Laugh and enjoy quality time with your significant other (truly focus on the relationship. Sex will fall into place when time is right.) Get a good nights rest. Don't be shy on saturated fats and cholesterol (coconut, Kerrygold butter, grass-fed red meats, eggs, fish oil unless you're eating good fish, etc) Meditate and ensure all major stress is out of your life (a little is okay, but chronic isn't.)

The above things fixed me right up in no time. Now, I want to hump inanimate objects at work (eh hem...)

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F3fc2e0a9577e7e481a387d917904d1e

(1070)

on July 09, 2012
at 12:57 PM

CARBS and SLEEP

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 10, 2012
at 04:19 AM

OKAY and THANKS! Haha...sorry! Thank you for the comment though, :).

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68294383ced9a0eafc16133aa80d1905

(5795)

on July 10, 2012
at 12:06 AM

Stress hormones are the single biggest factor in lack of sex drive. There have been a lot of replies on here but this would be the first place I'd look.

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 10, 2012
at 03:50 AM

Definitely where I'll look first. At least, before I give the natural ways to increase testosterone awhile. Thanks!

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3d0093dd591d9b88db74d7bba970dea0

(222)

on July 09, 2012
at 02:11 PM

Overtraining can be a culprit here.

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 10, 2012
at 04:16 AM

2-3 days a week of weights, and walking for an hour 4 times a week. I don't think that's too much, do you? (That's not sarcasm, by the way--personal experience has taught me that is pretty moderate).

3d0093dd591d9b88db74d7bba970dea0

(222)

on July 31, 2012
at 02:07 PM

That seems right on to me. It's still pretty individual with weights. Do you periodize your weight training? I'm bad at it, but it will ensure you don't dig any holes with your lifting.

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10cadc0a2dff90c849c6d088832be324

(741)

on July 09, 2012
at 01:06 PM

Everyone's aiming for Carbs- I want to know how much fat and protein you're getting. Both are needed to produce regular levels of testostorone in your body. I would keep LC if you're still looking to lose weight. You can't be a fat burner/ketogetic with more than 50grams of sugar per day let alone 250grams. Look for MDA's.

10cadc0a2dff90c849c6d088832be324

(741)

on July 11, 2012
at 02:22 AM

Sorry - Mark's Daily Apple. One of the biggest paleo sites online. I was typing on my phone and I guess I accidentally truncated the message.

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 10, 2012
at 04:17 AM

1 tbsp of coconut oil per meal (roughly 4-6 times a day), plus fatty cuts of meat. I could plug it in to fitday...or whatever program you could recommend. And...MDA? I'm not looking to lose weight, by the way. I'm pretty happy with my weight--in fact, I'm trying to pack on more muscle now that I'm feeling better.

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4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

on July 09, 2012
at 07:53 AM

Well this is not really an answer but since so many others commented rather than answered Im gonna go out on a limb here.... I want to make sure I understand you as your comment at the end about not desiring companionship, threw me.

By No interest and No libido you mean that absolutely literally right?
In other words besides no interest in sex with a/your partner, you also are not interesting in masturbation?

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 09, 2012
at 08:47 PM

Also, again to be fair to my herbalist, my sleep has been terribly inconsistent these past few months. Some nights I'll be in bed by 9pm, others at 6am.

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 10, 2012
at 04:30 AM

I have to ask. You say that like there's a major red flag. Mind if I ask what set off the abundance of exclamation points???

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 09, 2012
at 08:46 PM

Sigh, at first my response would have been "no", but after doing some research, and remembering things, I was on licorice and wild yam for digestive issues for several months (both of which raise estrogen levels). To be fair though, I have stopped those awhile back, so I would have thought my levels would have started rising. Any ways to naturally raise testosterone levels (I'm trying to avoid supplements for right now because of my sensitive digestion). Isn't liver a couple of times a week supposed to raise testosterone?

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 09, 2012
at 08:12 AM

Yep, bingo (or  Yahtzee, if you prefer). I stopped self-fulfillment completely a couple of months ago. It became a chore, and the thing is I've never been into porn, so I can't really blame it on the burnout theory.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 10, 2012
at 01:36 AM

Get your testosterone levels checked!!!

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 09, 2012
at 08:35 PM

Ok thanks.. Yep true "loss of libido" I agree that you should get your testosterone levels checked and also make sure your cholesterol is not too low. Is there anything you are taking that could lower your testosterone? DHEA for example can turn into estrogen....

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 10, 2012
at 06:44 PM

lol. Sorry. I'm enthusiastic. I just noted that a bunch of people recommended this and then you mentioned the things that could have lowered your level so... why not just get it checked and know for sure. Im thinking you are young, 20-30 right? Your level should be high, the high end of the reference range for Free Testosterone (upper 1/3)

0
E23363d46a6308c0990b478ac31d5eb4

on September 19, 2014
at 10:53 AM

Its a normal problem nowadays men facing. Lack of sex drive issues can be treated with help of anti-impotence pills. They are really effective pills and show their effect in less than 1 hour.

0
6f45ea59b536e1b4de93226124c9aadf

on March 15, 2013
at 10:23 AM

Stress and depression are the most common causes of a lack of desire in men. I have on this site all the information you need to sort yourself if you feel depressed or stressed.Male enhancement pills can also be used if you are facing problem such as reduced size of the penis, erectile dysfunction, premature ejaculation, lack of sexual desire.It actually works by giving firmness and increasing sexual stamina.

0
Medium avatar

on July 10, 2012
at 08:45 AM

I went paleo VLC first of the year. Plenty of red mean and fat. I noticed my desire, or rather, preoccupation with sex in my mind went way down. As opposed to before, I became more interested in thinking of other things, and I just didn't seem to want sex much. When I was away from my girlfriend during the week, I wouldn't care about sex at all. I'd masturbate maybe once a week (but that went down too). Yet, once with my girlfriend, I'd get aroused, and had no problem getting down to business.

It still bothers me that I dont seem to want sex, or care much about it, anymore. I'm single now, and I dont have any desire to go out and find another girl. I'm not hungry, as it were. Even once I have sex, it doesnt seem to thrill me like it used to.

That said, EVERYTHING ELSE is better. I am happier internally with my life. I feel better. I am stronger. Perhaps, when everything else sucks, we need sex to give us that good feeling that we are lacking in all other things. Once paleo makes so many aspects of life more interesting and feel so much better, we dont need that emotional/physical crutch anymore. So maybe thats a good thing.

Maybe that will make me be even more picky about a partner. For the first time in my adult life (37), I dont even want a girlfriend. Dont get me wrong, getting laid occasionally will still happen, and if I dont masturbate for long enough or have sex, something internally reminds me. Im just not preoccupied with it.

When SHE comes along and thrills me, Ill go after HER. Until we find each other, Ive got other shit to do.

Also, a clove of raw garlic a day in the blender raises my semen volume and sex drive every time. But, it also lowers alpha wave brain patterns, so thinking suffers. So I cycle it for a couple weeks, then go off it for a while.

For the last three weeks Ive been doing leangains. I eat 320g of carbs on workout days. Those carbs DID raise my libido and overall good feelings (VLC really got rid of my depressive lows, but killed my euphoric highs). I am still pretty even keeled emotionally now on paleo, as opposed to way up and down before, but with carbs I get a little more highs.

Hope this helps.

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99ac392257e444e014be6d4da6a900e4

(1036)

on July 10, 2012
at 12:59 AM

I'm not sure how to comment under VB's posts but don't see how the hunter-gather comparison is valid. Do we know males were monogamous or did they have multiple partners. That alone can increase "interest" in sex. We also have many more things in our lives that can lower our libido. Modern stressors being the main culprit.

I know plenty of people that watch a lot of porn, make their own porn, and have way more sex than I do so I don't think your study is all that scientific either.

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 10, 2012
at 04:12 AM

I have, in all fairness, seen many relationships affected by it, however. The man/woman no longer has interest in sex with their partner because it's not what they consider normal anymore. That being said, what you state about monogamous ancestral relationships is most likely accurate. Males in most species are driven to "plant the seed" to dominate various groups, areas, tribes, ect. Hell, Genghis Khan still owns half the world be his libido alone!

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7f867a3ea11ddc9fdfa1f4024d1ae155

on July 10, 2012
at 12:15 AM

Hmmm...I've also noticed a decrease in thinkIng about sex or feeling the need for it...but I think it's more that I've become pickier about what I want in a partner. I think if I met the right man who turned me on, I'd have tons of libido! Is it possible that what you think of as libido lack might just be more self control & a desire for a partner that really turns you on instead Of just any ole available person?

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on July 10, 2012
at 05:04 AM

I feel your pain, Rigton. It's a bitch being a nerd who likes brains and a foodie narcissist who can't settle for someone who doesn't adore themselves enough to do what they can to look good.

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 10, 2012
at 03:57 AM

I'm definitely picky. Ask any of my friends. The irony is, while I want someone who I'm physically attracted to, it's the intellectual side of relationships that complicates things for me. I want someone intelligent, quick wit, the whole package, so to speak. That's a tough find, and at this point in my life, I'm not willing to settle for anything else. However, seeing everyone getting married or being carefree about the situation does make me feel isolated to a certain extent. Not enough to change. Just enough to feel isolated.

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1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

on July 09, 2012
at 11:35 PM

First, I'm sorry to hear that this is happening (or not happening). On the plus side, since you're young and make a conscious effort to eat a well balanced diet I think you can rule out it being the result of a physical incapability to get an erection; for example, as a consequence of peripheral nerve damage from type 2 diabetes, a spinal injury, and/or very severe atherosclerosis and poor circulation. So now it's probably safe to say it is psychosomatic and all in your head (the one on your shoulders).

Now I'm by no means an expert on the issue of love and relationships, as I am only a young man and have had my fair share of relationship failures, but along some ideas to ponder. Who knows, by the end of this entire thread and the amount of posts, it could end up being something akin to that "sex bible" from American Pie (ring a bell?)

  1. She has to be your better half. Seriously; has to be. Find a girl you look up to, someone you really actually admire. I only came to this revelation recently, and think it's probably overlooked. She has to be a lot more than good looking and nice. (note, being your better half is not synonymous with being too good for you).

  2. The physical aspect is important, but don't force it prematurely and if you put too much pressure on yourself, you'll lose track of where she's at. Don't be selfish. It takes two to tango.

  3. Do something other than go out to a movie, dinner, or drinks. That's only going to leave you feeling like one or the other has to get invited upstairs. do something active during the day time and let the non physical relationship blossom- take her sailing, go for a run together (that is, if the two of you are runners), go rockcliming, or go to the art museum, etc. The most meaningful relationship I think I've had was with a girl I played tennis with for months before it turned into anything. You're not obligated to bring her back that way cause you're likely not going to hit the sheets and call it a night after that anyways. If you like where it is after said activity, ask if she'd like to do it again or if you're having such a good time, tell her you'd like to go home and shower up and then meet at such and such for lunch. Just avoid her house and your house (so go in separate modes of transportation).

You are still a man and you still want to be with a girl. Maybe you've just met too many wrong ones that you're getting discouraged? Get out and look for, assert yourself. Someone once said that the secret to success is doubling your rate of failure. Maybe the same goes for the dating scene?\

Good luck. I'm sure it will resolve itself soon enough.

(I hope that did not come across as patronizing. It's a process and I'm learning these things about relationships. I have by no means figured it out and I'm hardly there. You may even already know all this stuff, but it was at least good for me to write em down :)).

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518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on July 09, 2012
at 09:01 PM

Stress makes a huge difference. Because I am a horrible and nerdy person I tracked sex for my partner and I over a year during which we made very few dietary changes and found that I could track when midterms, exams, moving house etc was by how much our sex frequency decreased. Stress can be life (those freaking exams, fighting, tired etc) or physical (sick, poor digestion, headache etc). By maximizing your overall health, you can reduce the physical stress that can really hit the libido. The life stuff though, can only be dealt with by either decreasing them (de-stressing your lifestyle) or learning techniques to manage them better. No matter how awesome your physical health is, it's good to keep in mind that life stress will continue to affect libido if it stays ignored!

There are, of course, other more specific things that other people have covered (heavy lifting, sprinting, decrease estrodials, check zinc levels, check thyroid), but I thought that the stress thing is something to keep in mind!

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 10, 2012
at 03:49 AM

Sooo...you hear the word "spread" and you immediately pull of Microsoft Excel and open a spreadsheet now? Hah! Joking! I know what you mean though about stress. I may have one or two signs of low testosterone, BUT I think stress is much more likely, and in a way stress or testosterone, testosterone or stress, doesn't matter, both cause each other. Thankfully, I got rid of my stressful ex a month or so ago.

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Dfe1dfb34939145fe21b3d8fa6832365

on July 09, 2012
at 06:19 PM

This won't fix you by any means.. But if you're a dude, try running your little guys under cold water. When I started taking cold showers, this was the first thing that I noticed.

Cold water + testicles = awesome jump in libido

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 10, 2012
at 04:13 AM

I'm sorry; I can't get past your name. This is all I can think of, and if you get the reference, you shall forever be my hero. http://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters/glacius-s.gif

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F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 09, 2012
at 09:30 AM

  1. Up your carbs
  2. NO PORN - it lowers your libido, it does not increase it
  3. Are you with the same girl? Coolage effect maybe? Spice up your relationship a bit. And I don't mean anything kinky - just go some place with her over the weekend. If you don't have a girl - find a good one.
  4. Good for you for stopping self-fulfillment.

EDITED:

Here are three links for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wSF82AwSDiU#! http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKDFsLi2oBk&feature=player_embedded

You are welcome!

(Lucky, don't watch!)

D5d982a898721d3392c85f951d0bf0aa

(2417)

on July 10, 2012
at 02:02 AM

wha wha whaaa? (Channeling Kyle's Mom here) Orgasms beget orgasms. I vote for staying sexual while single. Let the happy chemicals flow and stay in touch with the erotic. Otherwise, isn't the OP just giving up?

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on July 09, 2012
at 09:58 PM

Yes. Or a man can have high libido and perform badly.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 09, 2012
at 09:30 PM

So you mean you can have a low libido and perform well?

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on July 09, 2012
at 09:02 PM

Why do you think the 'net was born? Porn porn porn! The internet is for porn!

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 10, 2012
at 07:52 AM

Here is a great link about porn (Lucky, don't watch). The videos (second on the right) are especially interesting. http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on July 09, 2012
at 08:55 PM

The porn thing, I think lots of people (men and women) who are motivated by visual stimulation would disagree with you...

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 10, 2012
at 04:01 AM

VB, I'm going to come to your defense as best I can here. I think that porn can absolutely have a negative impact on sex drive. I know couples that have broken up because of his/her addictions to porn. Real sex didn't interest them anymore because they were so ingrained with what was on their computer or dvd sex that didn't involve cheerleader outfits, threesomes, or bondage seemed boring to them. Now, that being said, I don't think masturbation in itself is unhealthy. Like working out, sleep, getting out into the sun or ANYTHING moderation is the key ultimately.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on July 10, 2012
at 05:07 AM

People can take anything too far. In the cases you mentioned, porn wasn't the problem - the person's addiction to it / fetish was the problem. But as a single picky girl who doesn't get kicks as often as she'd like, sometimes I just need to see Manuel Ferrera or Sasha Grey doing something real nasty.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on July 10, 2012
at 01:08 AM

And... why is it a good thing to stop masturbation?

E8dd83fe24a0879d8b16ab4ca92b72dd

(1307)

on July 10, 2012
at 04:02 AM

In other words, okay to play solitaire, so long as you realize poker is a much better game!

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on July 10, 2012
at 07:50 PM

@ VB- I personally do not watch porn, but why are you against masturbation? Seems like a perfectly normal and healthy activity to me. Hell, my dog masturbates all the time by humping the sofa, the chair, the pillow, etc. It's natural.

1f91fa5584b27c2c7fc0cf1f97a386c5

(182)

on July 09, 2012
at 11:59 PM

I concur with Luckie. My interest in sex as dropped off a cliff, yet am quite capable of performing multiple times in a... sitting? lying? laying?

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on July 09, 2012
at 09:05 PM

Performance isn't the same as libido, at all.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 10, 2012
at 07:46 PM

So you did watch them :) I know exactly what male performing is, even though I am a woman - I was just very lucky. No, "my" scientific studies are supported by numerous other sources (not just that guy, although he is very good at explaining the mechanics). Maybe YOU THINK that porn does not decrease your desire because, as that guy in the video said, you have no control group? How about taking a porn-free challenge for a month? I bet you cannot even live a week without that stuff...

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on July 10, 2012
at 07:59 PM

PS - I'm a woman, too.

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on July 09, 2012
at 09:04 PM

They can disagree with me, but they cannot disagree with science. And, according to research, men who watch porn perform worse than those who do not due to reset dopamine levels. I know a great website that will teach you all about how bad porn is for you. Also there is an link on Melissa's blog about hunter-gatherer's sex life. They do not watch porn and can go up to 5 times per night in their forties. Just sharing my knowledge.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

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on July 10, 2012
at 02:22 AM

Amen! A girl (or guy) has got to do what they've got to do to amuse themselves!

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on July 10, 2012
at 06:52 PM

@Slippery Nick - I don't think you know what performing actually is. Never mind, I don't think I want to go into that.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on July 10, 2012
at 06:41 AM

@Lucky - the research shows that porn also LOWERS your libido. It increases your drive to watch more porn and decreases your drive to do anything with a woman. Keep watching porn! This planet is already overpopulated, we don't need more people having sex.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on July 10, 2012
at 06:45 AM

Masturbation is not unhealthy but when you do it with an actual person you like, it produces more oxytocin and dopamine in your brain.

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on July 11, 2012
at 02:41 AM

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=the-sunny-side-of-smut http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200801/vice-or-virtue-the-pros-pornography

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on July 10, 2012
at 05:07 AM

PS - what is moderation when it comes to masturbation?

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

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on July 10, 2012
at 07:22 PM

Of course it's better to have sex with a real person you like, if you can, than to sit at home by yourself and wank. No one is saying "masturbation instead of sex." It seems like maybe you don't know what male performing is, if you don't know it's not the same as libido. If you don't like porn, don't watch, but I don't see why you should have a problem with other grown-ups doing what they want so long as they aren't harming anyone. I think your "scientific studies" are a bit biased. Furthermore, N=1. I can say that for me, porn does not decrease my desire to have fun with a girl or guy. YMMV.

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on July 10, 2012
at 06:42 AM

@Rignton - this is what research clearly shows.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on July 11, 2012
at 03:06 AM

"what consenting adults do in private is completely their own business and should not be judged" Sometimes true. Sometimes not (drunk driving). But people have the right to know what is good and bad for them. If smoking gives you lung cancer - you have the right to know. If being a vegetarian may destroy your health - you have the right to know. If porn is highly addictive and why it is so addictive - you have the right to know about it too. What we do not know may kill us (like in my case).

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on July 11, 2012
at 02:58 AM

Just by briefly looking at the article - that study is definitely not longitudinal with no control group. It reflect's people's view of porn in their lives, i.e. "men and women generally consider hardcore pornography a positive influence in their lives". Here is another quote "Lead author Martin Hald concedes that people generally view themselves as relatively immune to harmful media effects". People generally view themselves - this is the key phrase. How people view themselves and what is going on in their brains are two different things.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on July 10, 2012
at 08:16 PM

Luckie, so many men's lives are destroyed because of porn. So many men do not know how real sex feels like because of porn. So many men have to take viagra because of porn and you still think it is okay? Lip balm and collecting dolls does not rewire your brain. I have the right to be moralizing - I am a teacher with 18 years of experience and two Master's degrees. If you can match my credentials, I would love to hear your opinion. If not - keep on learning. I wonder if I used to be like that back in my teen days.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on July 11, 2012
at 02:45 AM

And you are not a porn-addicted teenager. You are a person who defends porn which makes me think of reasons why.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 11, 2012
at 02:44 AM

Thank you for the link, I will look into it.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on July 10, 2012
at 07:56 PM

That's really funny, because I have actually only watched porn four or five times, and that is all in the last year or so. It isn't really my thing, but I don't see what the big deal is. All it made me think was, "Oh hey, that looks fun. Next time I see my friend, maybe we can try that." Sure, people can take watching porn too far - they can also take lip balm too far, or Paleo, or collecting dolls. Just because some people develop a problem doesn't mean that it is an evil thing. Moralizing with psuedo-science, however, is, IMHO, an evil thing. You can find a study that can back up anything.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on July 11, 2012
at 02:08 AM

Knowledge gives people the right to moralize. Unfortunately, it is not defensiveness - it is hatred, so it is even worse. I hate it when people say things that are unfounded and not true. Please provide at least ONE longitudinal study that would prove that porn is not harmful to you. I would love your opinions to be backed up by science. Any links would be welcome.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

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on July 11, 2012
at 02:49 AM

The reason why is really very simple: what consenting adults do in private is completely their own business and should not be judged. Also, I find your argument that you have the RIGHT to moralize incredibly repugnant.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on July 10, 2012
at 08:21 PM

Being a teacher or going to college does not give you the right to moralize. -Nothing- gives -anyone- the -right- to moralize. That you think so is a reflection of you. I am also not a teenager, but thanks for playing. Your defensiveness is showing and it's not attractive.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on July 11, 2012
at 02:39 AM

All you have shown is that porn addiction is a bad thing. Which I agree with. I see no studies indicating that the use of pornography itself is a bad thing. Until then, it's just another moral crusade. Knowledge does not give anyone the right to moralize, because knowledge is not about morals. Knowledge is about facts, and calling me a porn-addicted teenager doesn't help your case. If you don't understand the difference between porn addiction being bad and pornography itself being bad, I can't imagine anything that would make sense to you. And with that, I leave you the following articles:

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