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Sedentary behavior more dangerous than even smoking?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created April 28, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Some study showed that sedentary lifestyles cause more deaths than smoking. What kind of physical activity should paleo be advocating? Maybe farming and agriculture is only Really bad to the degree that it promotes a sedentary lifestyle? Thoughts?

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on May 06, 2013
at 11:31 PM

Haha, I didn't mean anything negative towards ping pong, I love it myself. Just picked a random activity not usually associated with "exercise" off the top of my head.

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on May 06, 2013
at 11:28 PM

Thanks pat, I personally love playing ping pong.

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on May 06, 2013
at 11:27 PM

+1, I love ping pong.

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on April 30, 2013
at 08:22 PM

I blame mechanized transportation too. But planes, trains and TV's were all abundant pre 1980, before the great rise in obesity. The new developments are Apple, Microsoft, xboxes and wifi. We work and play using only our fingers and eyes.

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on April 30, 2013
at 08:12 PM

I would have been sidelined. When I was obese my dr. wouldn't sign a medical release to join a health club because I was too great a risk for him. I had to rescue myself from my computer cubbyhole with low intensity exercise.

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on April 30, 2013
at 07:54 PM

Yea, it definitely isn't an x -definitely leads to> y situation from farming to sedentism. Televisions also seems to have stolen our health to a degree.

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on April 30, 2013
at 06:18 PM

Sedentary lifestyle is more dangerous than fructose and grain. Neither of those caused much obesity before the cyber age.

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on April 28, 2013
at 07:11 PM

Plus one for your edited response Dan

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on April 28, 2013
at 04:22 PM

even a mordern day farmer would get a lot of movement

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on April 28, 2013
at 02:38 PM

Also, I'm thinking of farming as a sedentary lifestyle maybe half the year. A hunter gatherer would have to be active daily for n food. A farmer would likely have days off moreso than a hunter gatherer who needs new food daily. Also a farming civilization produces more food than required to meet the farmers needs. So now you have populations of possibly extremely sedentary individuals that wouldn't have existed before.

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on April 28, 2013
at 02:31 PM

Think of highly-mechanized industrial farming. Such a farmer involved in this kind of farming, can be considered as a sedentary life if she/he doesn't exercise and incorporate movement in daily life.

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on May 06, 2013
at 11:24 PM

I definitely agree with cocobean that I am much more alert when standing. I am a bio major at Uconn. I do all my reading/studying pacing back and forth or standing(yup, I'm that guy). My hips and back feel exponentially better on a day to day basis when I am just standing or moving more. I've also noticed I am leaning out much faster than I have in the past. Back to the question of what kind of physical activity should Paleo be promoting? Exercise is an extremely individual thing based on goals, likes, dislikes, and limitations so it's hard to give a blanket statement. Generally I would say: lift heavy often, move fast occasionally, and walk constantly. I think virtually everybody should be on some sort of strength based resistance training regimen. Most people (if physically capable) should do some sort of sprinting fairly often. and Everybody should just move as much as their situation permits. It's also not to forget the importance of play, as Mark Sisson has wrote so much about, among others. The key to any exercise/physical activity is enjoying it so that it will become a long-term part of ones life. I would rather somebody play ping pong every day than do nothing.

0775549e75987e08e0ca18585a757433

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on May 06, 2013
at 11:27 PM

+1, I love ping pong.

2edfcc5c8044bbb4f22ba6ea4289f592

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on May 06, 2013
at 11:31 PM

Haha, I didn't mean anything negative towards ping pong, I love it myself. Just picked a random activity not usually associated with "exercise" off the top of my head.

0775549e75987e08e0ca18585a757433

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on May 06, 2013
at 11:28 PM

Thanks pat, I personally love playing ping pong.

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on May 07, 2013
at 02:28 AM

I have some neighbors across the street whose parents live here on of and off (when they can get their visa approved, I guess). They are from China. I find it fascinating to watch the parents as they go about life here in the US, but still with very deep Chinese roots. They speak almost no english.

Every morning they are up at dawn. They walk at least 2 miles, from what I can see watching them. In the afternoon they take out their grandchildren for playtime, and walk another mile or so, mostly with the kids. Just before dusk they are out again, walking the same 2+ mile stretch. I've calculated they are walking 5-6 miles a day, if not more. They also hang laundry (including bed linens) out in the garage and driveway daily.

They are 70+ years old, and healthy as can be (at least from outward appearance). They NEVER stop moving. It's amazing to watch.

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on April 30, 2013
at 06:21 PM

Sedentism isn't caused by farms. I like having a handheld because it doesn't shackle me to a desk, at a catatonic metabolic rate. Computers have stolen our health.

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on April 30, 2013
at 08:22 PM

I blame mechanized transportation too. But planes, trains and TV's were all abundant pre 1980, before the great rise in obesity. The new developments are Apple, Microsoft, xboxes and wifi. We work and play using only our fingers and eyes.

0775549e75987e08e0ca18585a757433

(168)

on April 30, 2013
at 07:54 PM

Yea, it definitely isn't an x -definitely leads to> y situation from farming to sedentism. Televisions also seems to have stolen our health to a degree.

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on April 28, 2013
at 09:19 PM

So many people I've known were sidelined BY the health problems that led to sedentariness. I wonder how much of the results are really a juxtaposition of cause and effect because these health problems often appear so ambiguous it may seem like the choice to be sedentary, not being scissor-kicked onto the sofa by health problems.

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on April 30, 2013
at 08:12 PM

I would have been sidelined. When I was obese my dr. wouldn't sign a medical release to join a health club because I was too great a risk for him. I had to rescue myself from my computer cubbyhole with low intensity exercise.

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on April 28, 2013
at 02:28 PM

I would hardly consider a farmer to have a sedentary lifestyle.

Edit: I suppose I really didn't answer your question. What should be promoted is a baseline level of physical activity that would be optimal for health. This would probably be something like walking a few miles everyday and working out a couple days per week. Any more should be considered recreational activity or attempts to improve athletic ability or fitness level.

Agriculture and farming do not promote a sedentary lifestyle, but rather they give people the freedom to pursue their own interests, which may include being sedentary, instead of spending considerable amounts of time hunting and gathering. As technology improves, this amount of freedom will only increase, and I greatly welcome it.

0775549e75987e08e0ca18585a757433

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on April 28, 2013
at 07:11 PM

Plus one for your edited response Dan

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on April 28, 2013
at 02:31 PM

Think of highly-mechanized industrial farming. Such a farmer involved in this kind of farming, can be considered as a sedentary life if she/he doesn't exercise and incorporate movement in daily life.

1deaea445ff3b1cb5d1354a043dc8fb7

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on April 28, 2013
at 04:22 PM

even a mordern day farmer would get a lot of movement

0775549e75987e08e0ca18585a757433

(168)

on April 28, 2013
at 02:38 PM

Also, I'm thinking of farming as a sedentary lifestyle maybe half the year. A hunter gatherer would have to be active daily for n food. A farmer would likely have days off moreso than a hunter gatherer who needs new food daily. Also a farming civilization produces more food than required to meet the farmers needs. So now you have populations of possibly extremely sedentary individuals that wouldn't have existed before.

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on April 30, 2013
at 06:14 PM

I try to spend the least time sitting as possible. I stand while working and pace and fidget often. Even if you are not highly active, standing vs sitting can make a big difference in calorie burning, posture, and blood flow. I also notice that I am more alert and can concentrate better when standing.

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