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Is saturated fat bad for skin?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created July 01, 2012 at 10:07 PM

I know saturated fat is apparently not bad for you but since I increased my butter intake I swear my skin has gotten worse. Practically every site other than paleo says to avoid excessive saturated fat for complexion and I'm starting to wonder if they're right.

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(39821)

on March 04, 2013
at 11:02 PM

An entire stick of butter has about 3g of n-6 fats total, a small fraction of which is 20:4. There is no excess of essential fatty acids here. To attribute the problems to that rather than the multitude of bioactive hormones in butter is absurd. Take a bottle of aspirin and call Peat in the morning.

4bd4e2fe6a095663f80c69656936e487

(744)

on March 04, 2013
at 10:55 PM

Again, for the slow ones. The issue of membranes, etc., are irrelevant unless one consumes less than 2% of the essential fatty acids, which about nobody does. Given that, excess "essential fatty acids" can be a problem, regardless, again, on what are one's views on cell membranes, etc. Read, for example, Mary Enig, who doesn't share Ray's views on PUFAs, but also recognizes that excess "EFA" can be a problem.

4bd4e2fe6a095663f80c69656936e487

(744)

on March 04, 2013
at 10:54 PM

Again, for the slow ones. The issue of membranes, etc., are irrelevant unless one consumes less than 2% of the essential fatty acids, which is about nobody. Given that, excess "essential fatty acids" can be a problem, regardless, again, on what are one's views on cell membranes, etc.

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(39821)

on March 04, 2013
at 10:49 PM

I think your hummingbird diet may be affecting your memory http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/membranes.shtml

4bd4e2fe6a095663f80c69656936e487

(744)

on March 04, 2013
at 10:47 PM

Oh, great, more on topic comments.

4bd4e2fe6a095663f80c69656936e487

(744)

on March 04, 2013
at 10:46 PM

Oh, great, more on topic stuff.

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(39821)

on March 04, 2013
at 10:38 PM

Of course it's on topic. Do you even read your master's rambling works of fiction?

4bd4e2fe6a095663f80c69656936e487

(744)

on March 04, 2013
at 10:26 PM

Yeah, that's on topic. You act like a third grader.

4bd4e2fe6a095663f80c69656936e487

(744)

on March 04, 2013
at 10:26 PM

Yeah, that's on topic.

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(39821)

on March 04, 2013
at 09:48 PM

You Peat cultists don't even believe they're essential or that cell membranes exist.

4bd4e2fe6a095663f80c69656936e487

(744)

on March 04, 2013
at 09:05 PM

It's well known that "essential fatty acids" in excess cause problems. Even those who believe there is such a thing as essential fatty acids say it's necessary to consume them only between 0,5 and 2% of the diet.

4bd4e2fe6a095663f80c69656936e487

(744)

on March 04, 2013
at 08:29 PM

You might want to try reducing your saturated fat intake, or eat a different type of saturated fat, for example, coconut oil, but it probably wouldn't be a good idea to increase your PUFA intake. Experiments with rats show that PUFA exacerbates the skin damage caused by sun exposure.

4bd4e2fe6a095663f80c69656936e487

(744)

on March 04, 2013
at 08:28 PM

It's well known that "essential fatty acids" in excess cause problems. Even those who believe there is such a thing as essential fatty acids recommend to consume them between 0,5 and 2% of the diet.

4bd4e2fe6a095663f80c69656936e487

(744)

on March 04, 2013
at 08:28 PM

It's well known that "essential fatty acids" in excess cause problems. Even those who believe there is such a thing as essential fatty acids recommend to consume it between 0,5 and 2% of the diet.

Medium avatar

(39821)

on March 04, 2013
at 07:52 PM

Arachidonic acid is an essential fatty acid. It's more likely to be the result of the DHT precursors in butter.

32652cb696b75182cb121009ee4edea3

(5802)

on March 04, 2013
at 07:21 PM

Dairy gives me cystic acne.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on July 02, 2012
at 01:21 PM

No, with dairy, HuntingBears. My skin does better with more milk.

7cf9f5b08a41ecf2a2d2bc0b31ea6fa0

(4176)

on July 02, 2012
at 09:33 AM

@Dragonfly what is lacto-paleo just paleo without any dairy?

19ff515e8ec02d95e8f2cf68c3ec1373

(1207)

on July 02, 2012
at 12:00 AM

My skin does better the less butter, heavy cream and cheese I do.

1407bd6152d9fdbc239250385159fea1

on July 01, 2012
at 11:07 PM

Coffee is a problem for you? Wow. What do you think the causality is there?

E5d4889d675291f020c72e958de1f77b

(646)

on July 01, 2012
at 10:48 PM

Also agreed. I've kept the same skin regimen for a few months while monitoring my food- I definitely have increased breaking out when I eat dairy. (Coffee is also a problem, so I just don't consume it very often.) Try dropping the butter for a week or two and see what happens.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on July 01, 2012
at 10:30 PM

Agreed. I have had the best skin ever since going lacto-Paleo.

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1407bd6152d9fdbc239250385159fea1

on July 01, 2012
at 10:27 PM

Well, generally things that are inflammatory contribute to acne flare-ups. With that said, saturated fat is the least inflammatory (certain versions of SF vary slightly) of the fats one can consume. Perhaps you're particularly intolerant to dairy (see: butter) and that's causing your skin to throw a tantrum? I'd suggest replacing your use of butter with coconut oil or some sort of animal fat--see what happens.

Good luck.

E5d4889d675291f020c72e958de1f77b

(646)

on July 01, 2012
at 10:48 PM

Also agreed. I've kept the same skin regimen for a few months while monitoring my food- I definitely have increased breaking out when I eat dairy. (Coffee is also a problem, so I just don't consume it very often.) Try dropping the butter for a week or two and see what happens.

19ff515e8ec02d95e8f2cf68c3ec1373

(1207)

on July 02, 2012
at 12:00 AM

My skin does better the less butter, heavy cream and cheese I do.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on July 01, 2012
at 10:30 PM

Agreed. I have had the best skin ever since going lacto-Paleo.

1407bd6152d9fdbc239250385159fea1

on July 01, 2012
at 11:07 PM

Coffee is a problem for you? Wow. What do you think the causality is there?

7cf9f5b08a41ecf2a2d2bc0b31ea6fa0

(4176)

on July 02, 2012
at 09:33 AM

@Dragonfly what is lacto-paleo just paleo without any dairy?

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on July 02, 2012
at 01:21 PM

No, with dairy, HuntingBears. My skin does better with more milk.

32652cb696b75182cb121009ee4edea3

(5802)

on March 04, 2013
at 07:21 PM

Dairy gives me cystic acne.

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4e184df9c1ed38f61febc5d6cf031921

(5005)

on July 02, 2012
at 07:29 AM

My skin has improved a lot since eating this way - coming up 3 years. Excema, gone. Psoraiasis, virtually gone. Skin, has more of a glow - doesn't look "grey~", and tans much more easily - even in winter, it doesn't have that very white look that it used to get (and that other people still get - this winter, I kept being asked if I had been on holiday abroad - D3, perhaps??)

And the dry skin I used to have and be embarrassed about on legs and arms is now fine. I think it is to with two things - cutting out all seed oils, so lowering O6, and eating good saturated and monounsaturated fats.

Perhaps you have started eating - or eating more of - something you have an intolerance to?

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7bf306ada57db47547e9da39a415edf6

(11214)

on March 04, 2013
at 10:23 PM

Here is what I think is going on- casein proteins in the butter are the culprit, not the saturated fat. If I either make ghee or buy it, my face stays very clear. Some butters are made better than others- they vary in the level of proteins that they still have in them depending on the way the butter is made. My skin also reacts badly to extra virgin coconut oil because of some of the proteins in coconut.

So, for some of us at least, we'd have better skin with refined saturated fat because then all the allergens are out.

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on March 04, 2013
at 07:19 PM

butter is bad for your skin because it contains high amounts of arachidonic acid which is inflammatory. My skin gets really bad eatiing butter and eggs even though i really wanted to believe they are good for me.

4bd4e2fe6a095663f80c69656936e487

(744)

on March 04, 2013
at 09:05 PM

It's well known that "essential fatty acids" in excess cause problems. Even those who believe there is such a thing as essential fatty acids say it's necessary to consume them only between 0,5 and 2% of the diet.

Medium avatar

(39821)

on March 04, 2013
at 10:49 PM

I think your hummingbird diet may be affecting your memory http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/membranes.shtml

4bd4e2fe6a095663f80c69656936e487

(744)

on March 04, 2013
at 10:46 PM

Oh, great, more on topic stuff.

4bd4e2fe6a095663f80c69656936e487

(744)

on March 04, 2013
at 10:26 PM

Yeah, that's on topic. You act like a third grader.

Medium avatar

(39821)

on March 04, 2013
at 07:52 PM

Arachidonic acid is an essential fatty acid. It's more likely to be the result of the DHT precursors in butter.

Medium avatar

(39821)

on March 04, 2013
at 09:48 PM

You Peat cultists don't even believe they're essential or that cell membranes exist.

4bd4e2fe6a095663f80c69656936e487

(744)

on March 04, 2013
at 08:28 PM

It's well known that "essential fatty acids" in excess cause problems. Even those who believe there is such a thing as essential fatty acids recommend to consume them between 0,5 and 2% of the diet.

Medium avatar

(39821)

on March 04, 2013
at 10:38 PM

Of course it's on topic. Do you even read your master's rambling works of fiction?

4bd4e2fe6a095663f80c69656936e487

(744)

on March 04, 2013
at 10:47 PM

Oh, great, more on topic comments.

4bd4e2fe6a095663f80c69656936e487

(744)

on March 04, 2013
at 10:26 PM

Yeah, that's on topic.

Medium avatar

(39821)

on March 04, 2013
at 11:02 PM

An entire stick of butter has about 3g of n-6 fats total, a small fraction of which is 20:4. There is no excess of essential fatty acids here. To attribute the problems to that rather than the multitude of bioactive hormones in butter is absurd. Take a bottle of aspirin and call Peat in the morning.

4bd4e2fe6a095663f80c69656936e487

(744)

on March 04, 2013
at 08:28 PM

It's well known that "essential fatty acids" in excess cause problems. Even those who believe there is such a thing as essential fatty acids recommend to consume it between 0,5 and 2% of the diet.

4bd4e2fe6a095663f80c69656936e487

(744)

on March 04, 2013
at 10:54 PM

Again, for the slow ones. The issue of membranes, etc., are irrelevant unless one consumes less than 2% of the essential fatty acids, which is about nobody. Given that, excess "essential fatty acids" can be a problem, regardless, again, on what are one's views on cell membranes, etc.

4bd4e2fe6a095663f80c69656936e487

(744)

on March 04, 2013
at 10:55 PM

Again, for the slow ones. The issue of membranes, etc., are irrelevant unless one consumes less than 2% of the essential fatty acids, which about nobody does. Given that, excess "essential fatty acids" can be a problem, regardless, again, on what are one's views on cell membranes, etc. Read, for example, Mary Enig, who doesn't share Ray's views on PUFAs, but also recognizes that excess "EFA" can be a problem.

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