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Already feel an improvement, will very high fat be a health problem?

Commented on August 05, 2014
Created August 01, 2014 at 12:15 PM

As I stated in another thread I am doing the crossfit football diet. I feel very good even after just a few days but I am unsure about any long term effects of eating like this for years. I feel like I could eat this way forever.

I might just be clinging onto the SAD info I was told as a kid but I have some slight worries about how eating this way might be problematic to my health.

If my food intake was a pyramid based on how many calories i get from each food type it would look like this:

Base - Red meat and full fat A2 dairy

second - eggs and other fats

third - white and sweet potatoes

fourth - vegetables

fifth - berries and fruit - occasional food

This means I am getting alot of fat, quite a bit of protein and low carbohydrate intake comparable to most people.

I reckon I might sometimes get 150 grams of saturated fat a day. Does this huge ammount of saturated fat pose health risks? I tried low carb but felt sluggish and moody. The startches are definitely making me fell better and less tired, but I still feel as though eating so much fat might be doing something bad.

Am I worrying over nothing?

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on August 05, 2014
at 12:52 PM

I'm not the biggest fan of chicken, since I don't like the taste of it as much as duck or turkey, but I'll eat some wings, thighs or livers every now and then. But I'm pretty big on pork though, pork is where it's at. I don't mind a bit of omega-6 as long as it's a small amount, at the end of the day they still have mainly monounsaturated and saturated fat as their primary fats with just a little bit of omega 6.

And don't forget corn (Zea mays) is classified as a member of the Poaceae (grass) family of plants, therefore:

Corn-fed Chicken = grass-fed Chicken

:)

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on August 05, 2014
at 04:36 AM

Corn, corn, and more corn; that's what industrial chickens eat. It's not their natural diet (they're omnivorous), and it boosts the already-high omega-6 fatty acid profile of chicken. Stick to ruminant animals.

Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on August 05, 2014
at 01:41 AM

I would also like to point out that, by law, no hormones are approved for use as growth promoters in either poultry or pork. So contrary to popular belief, chickens are not given any hormones to grow faster. So feel free to eat all the chicken wings and baby back ribs you like :D

Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on August 05, 2014
at 01:30 AM

You're actually right about that. Straight from the FDA: http://www.fda.gov/animalveterinary/safetyhealth/p...

"Some of the approved drugs are naturally produced throughout life in people and animals, such as estradiol (estrogen), progesterone, and testosterone...People are not at risk from eating food from animals treated with these drugs because the amount of additional hormone following drug treatment is very small compared with the amount of natural hormones that are normally found in the meat of untreated animals and that are naturally produced in the human body."

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on August 04, 2014
at 10:14 PM

The difference in hormones in "doped" meat and undoped meat is actually insignificant. The natural amount of hormones present is actually much higher than any added dose (and that's dwarfed by what our own bodies make.)

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on August 05, 2014
at 04:43 AM

It's not about the absolute amount of saturated fat in your diet; it's about whether you're feeling good in the mid-to-longer term. Most paleo templates call for at least 15% starch, and many paleo adherents eat up to 30% of calories as starch, particularly those following Jaminet's Perfect Health Diet to the letter.

Personally, I started out with a ketogenic diet (less than 50g carbs/day) for two months, because (a) I'm over 50, and (b) I've yo-yo'd the same 60 lbs. 3 times. Now, after losing 20 lbs., I'm gradually increasing my carbs (sweet potatoes, taro, parsnips, some white rice), so that my body can keep making glycoproteins for structural repair and mucus for internal protection.

But you bet your sweet ass I'm still slurping down unprocessed coconut oil and lard from pastured pigs every day.

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on August 04, 2014
at 09:37 PM

I watched an interview of Loren Cordain by a Swedish guy on Youtube (

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52A3ayfxfTs), where he was asked precisely that question: apparently, in the first version of his book, he had warned against 'overdosing' with saturated fats. He stated most emphatically that he had changed his mind since, in view of the scientific evidence, and that the 2012 version of his book had been amended to reflect this change of opinion.

Similarly, the neurologist Perlmutter, in his book 'Grain Brain', argues that saturated fats are actually good for the brain.

One thing I would watch out for is that the animals you eat aren't fed too much hormones. Since going paleo, my overall health (mental and physical) has improved, I am leaner and stronger (and look good), and my GP and physio were extremely pleased with the 'transformation'. However, we had the bad surprise to find out that an existing tumour in one of my breasts had increased in size, quite dramatically (33% in 15 months). I am waiting for the results to find out what it is, and if it is a fibroadenoma, one factor for the growth might be the amount of red meat I have been eating, so I may have to cut back and go 'fish, fish, fish' again.

Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on August 05, 2014
at 01:41 AM

I would also like to point out that, by law, no hormones are approved for use as growth promoters in either poultry or pork. So contrary to popular belief, chickens are not given any hormones to grow faster. So feel free to eat all the chicken wings and baby back ribs you like :D

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on August 04, 2014
at 10:14 PM

The difference in hormones in "doped" meat and undoped meat is actually insignificant. The natural amount of hormones present is actually much higher than any added dose (and that's dwarfed by what our own bodies make.)

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on August 01, 2014
at 01:00 PM

Great question, I think the jury is still out on this though.

Historically saturated fat consumption has been correlated with a lot of nasty things. But of course, everyone knows that correlation is not causation and more recently there has been evidence on the other side of the coin, even to the point where certain sources of saturated fat are considered 'healthy'. So...hmm?

The mainstream answer is...yes you're doing something bad.

The paleo answer is...no, saturated fats are just fine from unprocessed foods.

Of course if you have a specific health condition I would hedge my bets, but if you're healthy you can probably do whatever you want, the human body tends to be pretty adaptable.

TL:DR - No-one knows.

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