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Hi, my name is greg and I have an addiction...

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created February 27, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Hi, My Name is Greg. I've been on Paleo for 27 days now. But I'm finally willing to admit I have an addiction...Dark Chocolate Raisinets. I've had a box a day for the past 4 days. I'm talking movie theater size boxes. I don't know what comes over me, I'm in line at the store picking up some water and they're always right there, staring at me. Next thing I know, I'm getting rung up for them and I'm devouring them before I get back to work.

How does someone conquer this?

What are you're food addictions that make it hard with Paleo?

6ba8b4ef453010c8ae07f7b9de32130c

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on April 03, 2012
at 03:02 PM

So I DIDN'T make it till Easter. Made it two weeks before I started back up! Now almost 4 weeks and I have had sugar every day since. Usually takes me about that long to see all the negative side effects of it and then quit again! But hey, Easter is Sunday and there will be candy around so I might as well wait and start next week. Aggghhh! Will I ever lose this craving and bad habit of letting sugar back in???? I know better, that's what is so sad.

31381cfeb5d6da6fc75f80ab68e041ea

(560)

on March 23, 2012
at 11:01 PM

i understand the logic of that, camila, but i think associating food with disgust is a dangerous path.

31381cfeb5d6da6fc75f80ab68e041ea

(560)

on March 23, 2012
at 11:00 PM

i used to do the same thing. throw equal parts almonds and raisins in the food processor. let her whirl, then throw in a handful of dark chocolate chips/cocoa powder. roll into balls, enjoy!

31381cfeb5d6da6fc75f80ab68e041ea

(560)

on March 23, 2012
at 10:59 PM

i wish you didn't view eating them as "caving" or being "bad." sweetheart... it's candy. it doesn't make you evil. you are simply trying to reclaim your health and overcome attachments to food... period. leave the morals out of your food!

31381cfeb5d6da6fc75f80ab68e041ea

(560)

on March 23, 2012
at 10:50 PM

i agree. sometimes the craving is a reflection of stress in other areas of life that are not so easily "kicked."

31381cfeb5d6da6fc75f80ab68e041ea

(560)

on March 23, 2012
at 10:44 PM

November has it goin' on. either eat beforehand or make a paleo snack to eat at your desk that you SO look forward to, you can leave the packages at the store.

31381cfeb5d6da6fc75f80ab68e041ea

(560)

on March 23, 2012
at 10:42 PM

i always love your logic, Nance. YOU are a true soldier! one thing i would add is i think it's important to look at WHY you are struggling with a treat specifically, and then turn that compulsion to something productive, and then use the productive thing to treat yourself. replace a habit AND break it. just breaking it often leaves ends unwraveled emotionally (cue a restriction binge!).

76c885d7d27e6c83542ea493ca866dcd

(2178)

on March 14, 2012
at 02:20 PM

Tracy, I have similar roller coasters. I've basically adopted the attitude towards sugar that alcoholics have towards alcohol. There's no such thing as "just a bite" because that bite turns into about 26 chocolate chip cookies or 3 pounds of ice cream!

3f3236d1f951d4b4c25eff387699a905

(554)

on March 14, 2012
at 06:22 AM

Willpower is seldom the issue.

16d5d61046d3b3db6d24483fa0b79cc8

on March 01, 2012
at 08:32 PM

I'm reading this just as a caved in and ate my raisinets again. :(. I was good for like a day. It's just funny for me b/c I've literally cut out soooooo much stuff the past few months. This time last year, no joke, I would drink about 10-15 diet cokes a day. A huge bag of skittles or rainbow twizzlers for dinner, fried everything. I was a mess. I know it's not 100% paleo, but I'm waaaaaaay better then I used to be. In fact, today I had my first slice of bread since the Feb 1st. So today wasn't great, just gotta be strong tonight and tomorrow and every day forward. Why is it so hard?lol

Bf57bcbdc19d4f1728599053acd020ab

(5043)

on February 28, 2012
at 08:19 AM

Tell them you're no longer available to be a gofer. It's someone else's turn. :)

D8c04730b5d016a839b3c5b932bf59dd

(823)

on February 28, 2012
at 05:40 AM

txrandom, just reading that, I could feel my mouth dry up (from the salt) and my ankles bloat. :D

D8c04730b5d016a839b3c5b932bf59dd

(823)

on February 28, 2012
at 05:37 AM

I think Sarah Fragoso has one at EveryDayPaleo.

D8c04730b5d016a839b3c5b932bf59dd

(823)

on February 28, 2012
at 05:36 AM

Be sure to have something really satisfying to eat BEFORE you have to go fetch crap. I love Lara Bars for a wicked treat at work. And most of 'em, are paleo. The cocobutter chocolate cups sound like a good replacement. I've lately discovered the joy of shopping after a satisfying meal. So easy to stick to my list.

1ab7ccb9520dddd0777db88e74ca0bed

(870)

on February 28, 2012
at 03:13 AM

Why the hate for anchovies? I just fried some dried anchovies up with coconut oil and covered them in curry powder. Probably my favorite snack now besides mangos!

931a99246c4b901c8cabd52da1e9f6d2

(130)

on February 28, 2012
at 12:20 AM

Great advice thanks for sharing!

0df0b1c6ae16bbb75b4a5efa3d876765

(2240)

on February 27, 2012
at 11:35 PM

Yeah, it's pretty good. One bar of Lindt with however many dollops of coconut butter usually makes 9-10 peanut butter cups. They go in the fridge until solid, and I eat 2 at a time usually as a treat after dinner.

7c9f81d68c78de1a31eab9c91c17b4b8

on February 27, 2012
at 11:26 PM

Holy Lord that sounds delicious.

7c9f81d68c78de1a31eab9c91c17b4b8

on February 27, 2012
at 11:21 PM

Really like "Now, it is a challenge not to scratch an itch but any good soldier can do it and keep doing it until the formation is dismissed."

16d5d61046d3b3db6d24483fa0b79cc8

on February 27, 2012
at 10:33 PM

you're 100% right. problem is, I'm the gopher in the mornings to get crap for everyone. so its kinda a conundrum. i'm gonna try so hard to conquer this lol.

16d5d61046d3b3db6d24483fa0b79cc8

on February 27, 2012
at 10:32 PM

ooooooh...where'd ya get a recipe?

C8d287744e0506a2ae88f2396c914304

on February 27, 2012
at 10:32 PM

I'd wager that the chocolate in those things is crap. Putting aside the issue of self-control for a moment, have you tried replicating the experience with some fresh raisins and quality 85% chocolate? You might not feel the need to eat so much of it. Personally, my one corporate food weakness is Coke Zero. I don't drink it that often, but with some meals it tastes oh so right. It can make me feel a bit spacy, but I'm beginning to wonder if it's not so much the tiny amount of artificial sweetener, but that perhaps there's such a thing as caffeine quality (and that theirs sucks).

D4d83e7981ca572aaaa19fc620bb54f1

(467)

on February 27, 2012
at 10:20 PM

It could perhaps mean you are lacking magnesium?

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0df0b1c6ae16bbb75b4a5efa3d876765

(2240)

on February 27, 2012
at 11:04 PM

Switch to dark chocolate and organic raisins, for starters.

I actually have some "peanut-butter cup" candy molds that I use, on occasion, to melt down 85% dark chocolate with a bit of coconut butter folded into the middle. This would work with raisins, too.

0df0b1c6ae16bbb75b4a5efa3d876765

(2240)

on February 27, 2012
at 11:35 PM

Yeah, it's pretty good. One bar of Lindt with however many dollops of coconut butter usually makes 9-10 peanut butter cups. They go in the fridge until solid, and I eat 2 at a time usually as a treat after dinner.

7c9f81d68c78de1a31eab9c91c17b4b8

on February 27, 2012
at 11:26 PM

Holy Lord that sounds delicious.

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96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on February 27, 2012
at 10:34 PM

It will help if you can realize the desire to eat them--let's call it the impulse or craving--is just a physical/mental sensation no different than thirst or itching.

Now, it is a challenge not to scratch an itch but any good soldier can do it and keep doing it until the formation is dismissed. If you get thirsty and can't get to a beverage right away you'll just be thirsty--nothing horrible will happen unless you're stranded in hot sun for hours.

So, you WILL get impulses and cravings to eat raisinets and they are just sensations. You can turn your back and leave them where they are and nothing horrible will happen. You can sit on a bench or get in your car and realize you left them there and nothing horrible will happen. You can even get mad that you had to leave them and STILL nothing horrible is going to happen.

You can simply decide not to eat them this time and repeat the process next time.

931a99246c4b901c8cabd52da1e9f6d2

(130)

on February 28, 2012
at 12:20 AM

Great advice thanks for sharing!

7c9f81d68c78de1a31eab9c91c17b4b8

on February 27, 2012
at 11:21 PM

Really like "Now, it is a challenge not to scratch an itch but any good soldier can do it and keep doing it until the formation is dismissed."

31381cfeb5d6da6fc75f80ab68e041ea

(560)

on March 23, 2012
at 10:42 PM

i always love your logic, Nance. YOU are a true soldier! one thing i would add is i think it's important to look at WHY you are struggling with a treat specifically, and then turn that compulsion to something productive, and then use the productive thing to treat yourself. replace a habit AND break it. just breaking it often leaves ends unwraveled emotionally (cue a restriction binge!).

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1a0976c846702f549ee4df0d811098be

(972)

on February 27, 2012
at 11:44 PM

Start one day at a time, state your intentions, and gather support!! You've identified the problem and you've got 10+ strangers from the internet who want to help, so that's a great start already. Just for tomorrow, skip the raisinets. As soon as you return from the store without them, log on and tell us about it. I'm confident that the supportive feedback you get from that on this forum will be enough to keep you away from them for one more day. Repeat as necessary.

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7c9f81d68c78de1a31eab9c91c17b4b8

on February 27, 2012
at 11:20 PM

I can relate to this a lot. I'm still battling it but it's about 70% better than it was a year ago. I feel impulsively that I have to have something--then I'll just go with it.

I watch other people have no problem with this. That's definitely not me. It's like a cockroach for me. If there is one fun size york peppermint pattie there may as well be hundreds.

I always hate all that cheesy self-motivation/self-talk crap so I have always said my diet needs to not include the concept of "will power." Now I'm changing my tune a little.

For one thing, my sugar cravings came after a meal...actually as soon as I had the first bite of a normal, paleo meal I would start intensely cravings sweets. So I started eating coconut chips after every meal until it passed.

Now I'm doing a little bit of that self-talk thing. When I am going to eat something I know that stinks or when I start to lose patience and yell at my kids or something I ask myself..."Is this helping anything?" In my head I hear "No." That completely fizzles my enthusiasm to yell at my kids or eat some cheetoes. It calms me enough to make a plan I guess. Then I say...How about I smile at my kid and say something silly? Or...how about I eat some baby spinach, oil olive and some gouda now?

I guess I stop some mind-set first and then I can think.

When I used to be a huge worrier I would stop it by asking myself.."What is the worst thing that can happen?" Then I would ask if I could live with that. Usually the answer was yes. (Until I had kids. lol. Some things with your kids you could not live with.)

Anyway...Nance is right. Nothing horrible is going to happen if I don't follow my impulse. After I eat the spinach and gouda I really don't want the cheetoes anymore so I'm safe until the next impulse. Now I'm able to put more space in between them and when I do eat something I just chalk it up and go right back. Good luck!

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5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

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on February 27, 2012
at 10:23 PM

Cold turkey - only way to deal with specific food addictions. Start by always having a healthy alternate with you and not allowing yourself to go hungry. Also - DO NOT go into any stores that carry the things for as long as necessary to break the habit. Carry a refillable water bottle and fill it from a tap. Those plastic bottles are full of more crap than tap water anyway (sometimes they even are tap water.) Pay at the pump at gas stations. Change grocery stores if yours carries raisinets.

D8c04730b5d016a839b3c5b932bf59dd

(823)

on February 28, 2012
at 05:36 AM

Be sure to have something really satisfying to eat BEFORE you have to go fetch crap. I love Lara Bars for a wicked treat at work. And most of 'em, are paleo. The cocobutter chocolate cups sound like a good replacement. I've lately discovered the joy of shopping after a satisfying meal. So easy to stick to my list.

16d5d61046d3b3db6d24483fa0b79cc8

on February 27, 2012
at 10:33 PM

you're 100% right. problem is, I'm the gopher in the mornings to get crap for everyone. so its kinda a conundrum. i'm gonna try so hard to conquer this lol.

Bf57bcbdc19d4f1728599053acd020ab

(5043)

on February 28, 2012
at 08:19 AM

Tell them you're no longer available to be a gofer. It's someone else's turn. :)

31381cfeb5d6da6fc75f80ab68e041ea

(560)

on March 23, 2012
at 10:44 PM

November has it goin' on. either eat beforehand or make a paleo snack to eat at your desk that you SO look forward to, you can leave the packages at the store.

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on March 14, 2012
at 05:47 AM

Hi Greg... oh wait. Wrong meeting.

Mag & Iron? Just a thought.

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6ba8b4ef453010c8ae07f7b9de32130c

on February 28, 2012
at 04:44 PM

If you really want to quit, you will. I went 100% Paleo in Jan 2011. I battled my sugar addictions all year. I started only allowing 85% or higher dark chocolate. Then after 6 months less % would creep in. My December of that year I was still great on Paleo, but candy/sugar was back. Jan of 2012 I went no sugar for 30 days. Day 31 I let it back in which lead to a month of sugar binging. Now on day 6 of no sugar and I really feel amazing. So many positives that I wonder why I ever let it back in. My goal is to make it to Easter, but I am truly hoping I last a life time. I am not a moderation person when it comes to sugar. I know that, time to put on my big girl pants and kick this addiction for good! Good luck to you! You CAN do it!

16d5d61046d3b3db6d24483fa0b79cc8

on March 01, 2012
at 08:32 PM

I'm reading this just as a caved in and ate my raisinets again. :(. I was good for like a day. It's just funny for me b/c I've literally cut out soooooo much stuff the past few months. This time last year, no joke, I would drink about 10-15 diet cokes a day. A huge bag of skittles or rainbow twizzlers for dinner, fried everything. I was a mess. I know it's not 100% paleo, but I'm waaaaaaay better then I used to be. In fact, today I had my first slice of bread since the Feb 1st. So today wasn't great, just gotta be strong tonight and tomorrow and every day forward. Why is it so hard?lol

76c885d7d27e6c83542ea493ca866dcd

(2178)

on March 14, 2012
at 02:20 PM

Tracy, I have similar roller coasters. I've basically adopted the attitude towards sugar that alcoholics have towards alcohol. There's no such thing as "just a bite" because that bite turns into about 26 chocolate chip cookies or 3 pounds of ice cream!

31381cfeb5d6da6fc75f80ab68e041ea

(560)

on March 23, 2012
at 10:59 PM

i wish you didn't view eating them as "caving" or being "bad." sweetheart... it's candy. it doesn't make you evil. you are simply trying to reclaim your health and overcome attachments to food... period. leave the morals out of your food!

6ba8b4ef453010c8ae07f7b9de32130c

(80)

on April 03, 2012
at 03:02 PM

So I DIDN'T make it till Easter. Made it two weeks before I started back up! Now almost 4 weeks and I have had sugar every day since. Usually takes me about that long to see all the negative side effects of it and then quit again! But hey, Easter is Sunday and there will be candy around so I might as well wait and start next week. Aggghhh! Will I ever lose this craving and bad habit of letting sugar back in???? I know better, that's what is so sad.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on February 27, 2012
at 10:53 PM

Eat your "next 100 % Paleo meal" before you perform your "gopher" duties.A full belly will act as a fine prophylactic to this "addiction drama". Good luck.

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Ec6016bfcb7e3cb8a9b05991b3b33966

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on February 27, 2012
at 10:23 PM

You don't need the internet to tell you that if you want to stop eating something, you use the power of your mind to do it. If you really want to kick it, you will.

3f3236d1f951d4b4c25eff387699a905

(554)

on March 14, 2012
at 06:22 AM

Willpower is seldom the issue.

31381cfeb5d6da6fc75f80ab68e041ea

(560)

on March 23, 2012
at 10:50 PM

i agree. sometimes the craving is a reflection of stress in other areas of life that are not so easily "kicked."

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on March 14, 2012
at 02:26 AM

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on February 28, 2012
at 01:39 AM

Dr Daniel G Amen of Change Your Brain Change Your Body suggests association as well (personally didn't work for me). Imagine eating them with a disgusting pairing, all the time. (Um...with anchovies? Pork brains? EZ Cheez...) Eat them with that pairing if you have to. You'll begin to associate them with it, and supposedly you cannot go back to eating it.

1ab7ccb9520dddd0777db88e74ca0bed

(870)

on February 28, 2012
at 03:13 AM

Why the hate for anchovies? I just fried some dried anchovies up with coconut oil and covered them in curry powder. Probably my favorite snack now besides mangos!

D8c04730b5d016a839b3c5b932bf59dd

(823)

on February 28, 2012
at 05:40 AM

txrandom, just reading that, I could feel my mouth dry up (from the salt) and my ankles bloat. :D

31381cfeb5d6da6fc75f80ab68e041ea

(560)

on March 23, 2012
at 11:01 PM

i understand the logic of that, camila, but i think associating food with disgust is a dangerous path.

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931a99246c4b901c8cabd52da1e9f6d2

on February 28, 2012
at 12:22 AM

We all have cravings, they make these foods to make us want more, flavor and taste eexperts do their job well. Some great advice here, thank you all!

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on February 27, 2012
at 10:27 PM

Make your own homemade larabars! I just had some and it tasted a lot like raisinettes.

D8c04730b5d016a839b3c5b932bf59dd

(823)

on February 28, 2012
at 05:37 AM

I think Sarah Fragoso has one at EveryDayPaleo.

16d5d61046d3b3db6d24483fa0b79cc8

on February 27, 2012
at 10:32 PM

ooooooh...where'd ya get a recipe?

31381cfeb5d6da6fc75f80ab68e041ea

(560)

on March 23, 2012
at 11:00 PM

i used to do the same thing. throw equal parts almonds and raisins in the food processor. let her whirl, then throw in a handful of dark chocolate chips/cocoa powder. roll into balls, enjoy!

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