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Anyone know what happened to Robb Wolf having Nate Miyaki on his podcast?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created February 04, 2013 at 2:32 PM

On episode 142 (July 2012), Robb mentioned they would have Nate Miyaki on as a guest in the future, but I haven't heard him mention it again since. Anyone know what happened? Did they have some sort of a falling out? Or did I somehow miss it?


They had this exchange in August which seems quite friendly:

https://twitter.com/robbwolf/status/231142736558977024

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on February 09, 2013
at 04:30 PM

This is a terrible post, Wolf has helped TONS of people, is certainly not a phony, and his "system" certainly does work. All I've ever heard out of him is that "it depends". He definitely changes his stance slightly based on the current evidence/research, which is a GOOD thing. However his original principles still are not far from his current, and still work for the vast majority of people. Especially when compared to SAD. He has gone a long way to help tons of people for FREE.

43f469552cfd3be73fc88a9821b14986

on February 09, 2013
at 04:21 PM

Robb has put out 169 hour long free podcast on the web. He helps people. He could have easily said here is this diet, eat x amount of carbs. But he created a template for us to mix and match and decide for ourselves.

43f469552cfd3be73fc88a9821b14986

on February 09, 2013
at 04:18 PM

The Paleo Solution was published in 2010. Check out this google trends chart http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=paleo+diet

43f469552cfd3be73fc88a9821b14986

on February 09, 2013
at 04:17 PM

Taking an idea and making it popular in a way people understand, incorporate into their lives and spread is no small feat.

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on February 04, 2013
at 07:32 PM

I'm still wondering what he's done that's new. Writing a book that has already been written is not something new to me.

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on February 04, 2013
at 07:14 PM

Sorry confused, if you have some information that is beneficial and then write a book to help people, create a podcast to answer questions and then 10 years later decide to create a supplement range with a colleague due to the need after years of working with people... I don't see a problem and as a sidenote, I created http://freepaleo.com (albeit low on updates recently) so you don't really have to point out the money issue with paleo to me.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on February 04, 2013
at 07:04 PM

@ Mash- If what you just listed does not sound like a glorified advertiser-salesman to you, then I don't know what will.

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on February 04, 2013
at 05:30 PM

Rob was involved with Cordain, De Vany and Eades from the early 2000's. Also he is possibly the pivotal figure in bringing paleo to CrossFit, the general public and public services (Firefighters, Police, etc). It has only been in the last year that he is actually selling specific products which are the specific supplement range with Kresser.

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on February 04, 2013
at 04:20 PM

Well, we all have different impressions of the various paleo personalities. I make no effort to hide my man-crush on Robb, but others I cannot stand - posing as an expert yet not have real world research, clinical experience or even acting as a personal trainer, PubMed experience does not count!

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on February 04, 2013
at 03:57 PM

@ Matt and Mike T- You guys are right in that I am probably being unfair. What I mean to say is that I just don't see what that thing is that makes him unique among the others. I just don't see him as a pioneer in anything. maybe he is. I just don't know what. Kinda just seems like a pretentious salesman.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on February 04, 2013
at 03:56 PM

@ Matt and Mike T- You guys are right in that I am probably being unfair. What I mean to say is that I just don't see what that thing is that makes him unique among the others. I just don't see him as a pioneer in anything. maybe he is. I just don't know what. Kinda just seems like a pretentious salesman-pundit.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on February 04, 2013
at 03:56 PM

@ Matt and Mike T- You guys are right in that I am probably being unfair. What I mean to say is that I just don't see what that thing is that makes him unique among the others. I just don't see him as a pioneer in anything. maybe he is. I just don't know what. Kinda just seems like a pretentious salesman-journalist.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on February 04, 2013
at 03:54 PM

@ Matt and Mike T- You guys are right in that I am probably being unfair. What I mean to say is that I just don't see what that thing is that makes him unique among the others. I just don't see him as a pioneer in anything. maybe he is. I just don't know what. Kinda just seems like a pretentious salesman.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on February 04, 2013
at 03:49 PM

@ Matt and Mike T- You guys are right in that I am probably being unfair. What I mean to say is that I just don't see what that thing is that makes him unique among the others. I just don't see him as a pioneer in anything. maybe he is. I just don't know what.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on February 04, 2013
at 03:46 PM

Does he admit he's wrong? Well that's good. But what does he do? What has he created? Miyaki created the rice-farmer thing for athletes and does that. berkhan created Leangains and does that. Jaminet's created PHD and do that. What did Wolf create that is uniquely his? It was not the paleo diet (for he learned from Cordain). It was not he paleo diet for athletes (again). What is it? Guyenet and Mellissa for example are bloggers that write and update. They don't peddle products. Wolf is what? He peddles products but he hasn't created a unique system of his own. Is he just a salesman?

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on February 04, 2013
at 03:42 PM

A little harsh to say Robb Wolf's system doesn't work. It does. It just doesn't necessarily work 100% of the time for all people. What system does?

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on February 04, 2013
at 03:36 PM

I can see your point, though at the same time this field of nutrition is evolving. We are learning new things. One of the things I like most about Robb is his willingness to update his views and admit when he was wrong. But to each his own, of course.

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on February 04, 2013
at 03:32 PM

I major in economics and math, and it would be like me calling myself a Keynesian or worse a full blown Communist like Marx or Lange, but then saying that the economic philosophies of Mises, Hayek, Smith and the likes creates a better functioning economy in the real world, without actually admitting that Keynesianism or Marxism does not

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on February 04, 2013
at 03:29 PM

I major in economics and math, and it would be like me calling myself a Keynesian or worse a full blown Communist like Marx or Lange, but then saying that the economic philosophies of Mises, Hayek, Smith and the likes creates a better functioning economy in the real world, without actually admitting that mine doesn't.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on February 04, 2013
at 03:23 PM

Being a real professional means finding a system that works and sticking too it, not jumping around. Berkhan has been true to Leangains throughout. He doesn't jump on a new bandwagon- he created it and has been on it throughout. Miyaki has always been a pro-carb athlete after having had bad experiences with standard paleo (like myself). he created the chinese rice farmer dinner for athletes and sticks to it. I don't see Wolf and Nikoly doing anything innovative besides jumping on other people's badwagons and not admitting that they don't have a system of their own that actually works.

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on February 04, 2013
at 03:15 PM

It is a strong statement, perhaps too strong. I feel he is no different than Nikoley. Someone who writes books on the value of low carbs and then embraces without fully admitting their fault the nutrition philosophies of people who are more successful them (i.e. more fit). Nikoley and the potato diet. Nikoly and IF. Why? Just admit bulletproofing doesn't get you lean. Losing weight and getting lean are entirely different ball-games and Bulletproof does not cut it. Nate Miyaki has openly mocked low carb paleo in some of his older work and is without a doubt pro carb for performance.

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on February 04, 2013
at 03:12 PM

he agrees with you that athletes (anaerobic) need carbs for optimal performance

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on February 04, 2013
at 03:10 PM

phony??? why??

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Ae8946707ddebf0f0bfbcfc63276d823

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on February 09, 2013
at 03:43 PM

Looks like he still will:

https://twitter.com/robbwolf/status/300267919588339712

Not sure when though.

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on February 04, 2013
at 05:07 PM

Ryan Hurst (GMB Program Director) interviewed Nate a few weeks back.

(GMB) Gold Medal Bodies: How to Diet Without Killing Yourself: An Interview With Nate Miyaki.

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1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

on February 04, 2013
at 03:09 PM

I have no clue, but if you find out if/when he does come on, post it under the comments and I guess I will have to make visit to that phony's podcast and give it a listen. Miyaki is great. Nothing personal against Wolf, I just think mostly every paleo guru with a 1 exception are such. Ancestral health bloggers aren't so bad though.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on February 04, 2013
at 03:29 PM

I major in economics and math, and it would be like me calling myself a Keynesian or worse a full blown Communist like Marx or Lange, but then saying that the economic philosophies of Mises, Hayek, Smith and the likes creates a better functioning economy in the real world, without actually admitting that mine doesn't.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on February 04, 2013
at 03:49 PM

@ Matt and Mike T- You guys are right in that I am probably being unfair. What I mean to say is that I just don't see what that thing is that makes him unique among the others. I just don't see him as a pioneer in anything. maybe he is. I just don't know what.

Ae8946707ddebf0f0bfbcfc63276d823

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on February 04, 2013
at 03:10 PM

phony??? why??

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on February 04, 2013
at 03:57 PM

@ Matt and Mike T- You guys are right in that I am probably being unfair. What I mean to say is that I just don't see what that thing is that makes him unique among the others. I just don't see him as a pioneer in anything. maybe he is. I just don't know what. Kinda just seems like a pretentious salesman.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on February 04, 2013
at 03:42 PM

A little harsh to say Robb Wolf's system doesn't work. It does. It just doesn't necessarily work 100% of the time for all people. What system does?

Ae8946707ddebf0f0bfbcfc63276d823

(9402)

on February 04, 2013
at 03:12 PM

he agrees with you that athletes (anaerobic) need carbs for optimal performance

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on February 04, 2013
at 07:04 PM

@ Mash- If what you just listed does not sound like a glorified advertiser-salesman to you, then I don't know what will.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on February 04, 2013
at 03:54 PM

@ Matt and Mike T- You guys are right in that I am probably being unfair. What I mean to say is that I just don't see what that thing is that makes him unique among the others. I just don't see him as a pioneer in anything. maybe he is. I just don't know what. Kinda just seems like a pretentious salesman.

Ca2c940a1947e6200883908592956680

(8574)

on February 04, 2013
at 05:30 PM

Rob was involved with Cordain, De Vany and Eades from the early 2000's. Also he is possibly the pivotal figure in bringing paleo to CrossFit, the general public and public services (Firefighters, Police, etc). It has only been in the last year that he is actually selling specific products which are the specific supplement range with Kresser.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on February 04, 2013
at 03:56 PM

@ Matt and Mike T- You guys are right in that I am probably being unfair. What I mean to say is that I just don't see what that thing is that makes him unique among the others. I just don't see him as a pioneer in anything. maybe he is. I just don't know what. Kinda just seems like a pretentious salesman-journalist.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on February 04, 2013
at 03:32 PM

I major in economics and math, and it would be like me calling myself a Keynesian or worse a full blown Communist like Marx or Lange, but then saying that the economic philosophies of Mises, Hayek, Smith and the likes creates a better functioning economy in the real world, without actually admitting that Keynesianism or Marxism does not

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on February 04, 2013
at 03:23 PM

Being a real professional means finding a system that works and sticking too it, not jumping around. Berkhan has been true to Leangains throughout. He doesn't jump on a new bandwagon- he created it and has been on it throughout. Miyaki has always been a pro-carb athlete after having had bad experiences with standard paleo (like myself). he created the chinese rice farmer dinner for athletes and sticks to it. I don't see Wolf and Nikoly doing anything innovative besides jumping on other people's badwagons and not admitting that they don't have a system of their own that actually works.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on February 04, 2013
at 07:32 PM

I'm still wondering what he's done that's new. Writing a book that has already been written is not something new to me.

Ae8946707ddebf0f0bfbcfc63276d823

(9402)

on February 04, 2013
at 03:36 PM

I can see your point, though at the same time this field of nutrition is evolving. We are learning new things. One of the things I like most about Robb is his willingness to update his views and admit when he was wrong. But to each his own, of course.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on February 04, 2013
at 04:20 PM

Well, we all have different impressions of the various paleo personalities. I make no effort to hide my man-crush on Robb, but others I cannot stand - posing as an expert yet not have real world research, clinical experience or even acting as a personal trainer, PubMed experience does not count!

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on February 04, 2013
at 03:46 PM

Does he admit he's wrong? Well that's good. But what does he do? What has he created? Miyaki created the rice-farmer thing for athletes and does that. berkhan created Leangains and does that. Jaminet's created PHD and do that. What did Wolf create that is uniquely his? It was not the paleo diet (for he learned from Cordain). It was not he paleo diet for athletes (again). What is it? Guyenet and Mellissa for example are bloggers that write and update. They don't peddle products. Wolf is what? He peddles products but he hasn't created a unique system of his own. Is he just a salesman?

Ca2c940a1947e6200883908592956680

(8574)

on February 04, 2013
at 07:14 PM

Sorry confused, if you have some information that is beneficial and then write a book to help people, create a podcast to answer questions and then 10 years later decide to create a supplement range with a colleague due to the need after years of working with people... I don't see a problem and as a sidenote, I created http://freepaleo.com (albeit low on updates recently) so you don't really have to point out the money issue with paleo to me.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on February 04, 2013
at 03:15 PM

It is a strong statement, perhaps too strong. I feel he is no different than Nikoley. Someone who writes books on the value of low carbs and then embraces without fully admitting their fault the nutrition philosophies of people who are more successful them (i.e. more fit). Nikoley and the potato diet. Nikoly and IF. Why? Just admit bulletproofing doesn't get you lean. Losing weight and getting lean are entirely different ball-games and Bulletproof does not cut it. Nate Miyaki has openly mocked low carb paleo in some of his older work and is without a doubt pro carb for performance.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on February 04, 2013
at 03:56 PM

@ Matt and Mike T- You guys are right in that I am probably being unfair. What I mean to say is that I just don't see what that thing is that makes him unique among the others. I just don't see him as a pioneer in anything. maybe he is. I just don't know what. Kinda just seems like a pretentious salesman-pundit.

43f469552cfd3be73fc88a9821b14986

on February 09, 2013
at 04:17 PM

Taking an idea and making it popular in a way people understand, incorporate into their lives and spread is no small feat.

43f469552cfd3be73fc88a9821b14986

on February 09, 2013
at 04:18 PM

The Paleo Solution was published in 2010. Check out this google trends chart http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=paleo+diet

43f469552cfd3be73fc88a9821b14986

on February 09, 2013
at 04:21 PM

Robb has put out 169 hour long free podcast on the web. He helps people. He could have easily said here is this diet, eat x amount of carbs. But he created a template for us to mix and match and decide for ourselves.

F02990386b12528111740ad6279ba29d

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on February 09, 2013
at 04:30 PM

This is a terrible post, Wolf has helped TONS of people, is certainly not a phony, and his "system" certainly does work. All I've ever heard out of him is that "it depends". He definitely changes his stance slightly based on the current evidence/research, which is a GOOD thing. However his original principles still are not far from his current, and still work for the vast majority of people. Especially when compared to SAD. He has gone a long way to help tons of people for FREE.

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