2

votes

Did anyone see the NBC piece about restoring permafrost in Siberia by mimicking ice age grazing?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created January 05, 2012 at 10:20 PM

I had not previously heard about Sergey A. Zimov and his Pleistocene Park. Is this guy going to help save the world? Apparently, by bringing in large grazing animals he's been able to lower the temperature enough within the park enough to refreeze the permafrost.

It sounds like he is trying to restore the ecosystem there sans human predation because he thinks it was the overhunting of the large game that may have sped up climate change in that part of the world, and will only introduce wolves and big cats when the population starts grow too large. Does anyone know more about Zimov's food philosophy?

This sounds like it could have other win/win options to me though, wouldn't well managed grazing animals used for human consumption provide the same benefit to lowering Arctic temperatures? Is this the next frontier in sustainable food?

http://www.hulu.com/watch/314532/nbc-nightly-news-with-brian-williams-as-siberian-permafrost-melts-methane-seeps-out (sorry about the link with an ad)

The knocking down of small trees with his truck to "mimic the woolly mammoth" was a new and bizarre concept to me, apparently the trees trap heat. It looked really fun though.

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/308/5723/796.1.full

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleistocene_Park

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on January 26, 2012
at 09:17 AM

I just found this through Nora Gedgaudas blog (these guys are all over this)-- http://www.savoryinstitute.com/

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on January 06, 2012
at 11:33 AM

Someone should do a study on the flatulence levels of paleo eaters vs vegans. I'd bet the vegans produce far more gas than the grassfed cows we consume, if nothing else, certainly they produce a lot of hot air.

F040035b2008ec80b205481afbd39ad4

(1837)

on January 06, 2012
at 11:23 AM

If true then this is another nail in the coffin of veg*anism!

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on January 06, 2012
at 09:59 AM

I hadn't heard about restoring grasslands in Africa either. Hot damn this concept excites me! For some reason I thought that overgrazing was supposed to lead to desertification, but maybe that is just if the animals are confined. Very cool. It would seem that breeding and releasing graze animals and repurposing land that where we currently farm crops could do a heap of good.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on January 06, 2012
at 01:02 AM

One of the "anti pastured animal" comments I kept encountering is that cow farts and deforestation are huge contributors to global warming, but it looks like large farty herbivores and fewer trees may have the opposite effect in certain locales.

  • 6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

    asked by

    (24553)
  • Views
    1.5K
  • Last Activity
    1398D AGO
Frontpage book

Get FREE instant access to our Paleo For Beginners Guide & 15 FREE Recipes!

2 Answers

3
744f86f48c92d4f89d99d7ddb864231e

on January 05, 2012
at 11:51 PM

Haven't seen that segment in particular, but I have read about rewilding efforts.

One thing that strikes me about them is that the basic premise demonstrates just how anti-environmental agriculture really is. We hear lots of people insisting that eating more plant foods is better for the environment, but pre-human environments didn't consist of vast acres of wheat or corn. They consisted of vast herds of grazing animals (yummy!). It seems to me that true concern for the environment would have us eliminating the cornfields and restoring the buffalo. And we'd all be healthier for it.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on January 06, 2012
at 01:02 AM

One of the "anti pastured animal" comments I kept encountering is that cow farts and deforestation are huge contributors to global warming, but it looks like large farty herbivores and fewer trees may have the opposite effect in certain locales.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on January 06, 2012
at 11:33 AM

Someone should do a study on the flatulence levels of paleo eaters vs vegans. I'd bet the vegans produce far more gas than the grassfed cows we consume, if nothing else, certainly they produce a lot of hot air.

2
4e184df9c1ed38f61febc5d6cf031921

(5005)

on January 06, 2012
at 09:31 AM

What a fascinating article! I hope we get to see follow up on this. There was a piece I read about restoring the grasslands of part of Africa through grazing; de-deserting of the area. Both seem brilliant ideas to me.

So - agriculture is bad for the environment, grazing herbivores good! More meat...

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on January 06, 2012
at 09:59 AM

I hadn't heard about restoring grasslands in Africa either. Hot damn this concept excites me! For some reason I thought that overgrazing was supposed to lead to desertification, but maybe that is just if the animals are confined. Very cool. It would seem that breeding and releasing graze animals and repurposing land that where we currently farm crops could do a heap of good.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on January 26, 2012
at 09:17 AM

I just found this through Nora Gedgaudas blog (these guys are all over this)-- http://www.savoryinstitute.com/

Answer Question


Get FREE instant access to our
Paleo For Beginners Guide & 15 FREE Recipes!