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Hack my sleep please!

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created March 03, 2013 at 11:57 AM

I know I've been asking a lot of questions lately... but here's another, because it's really driving me nuts. I've been googling like crazy, but still haven't really found an answer.

I've been sleeping on average 2 to 4 (if I'm lucky) hours a night, for the past two weeks.

At first I thought it was because of my eating times (I eat from 8 am to 4 or 5pm), but recently have changed that (eating whenever I get up- like 5am)... No change in sleep.

I've tried eating more carbs (bananas, berries, more fat, less fat, etc), before bed, and that hasn't worked either.

I've looked into my calorie intake. My lowest calorie intake in the past two weeks was 1700. My highest has been 4000. Even on 4000 calorie days, I don't sleep.

I'm tired, my eyes hurt sometimes, but I can't sleep to nap during the day.

My energy levels are through the roof... My body feels like it just wants to keep going, even though it's exhausted? And even when it's exhausted, my brain keeps going? It's hard to explain...

I usually just lie in bed with my eyes closed, hoping I'll sleep.

And when that doesn't work, I just get up. I feel fine because my energy levels are pretty great.

I don't feel hungry when I'm in bed, but I've also tried eating earlier- like 5am, to see if it would help me go back to sleep. No such luck.

Help?

7f266add28a9edc3e869f663c8a5bed6

(50)

on May 27, 2013
at 02:25 PM

I wouldn't avoid starches when having sleep issues. Lot's of info over at the Perfect Health Diet blog about starches and sleep.

32652cb696b75182cb121009ee4edea3

(5802)

on April 14, 2013
at 09:21 PM

Are you fairly new to paleo? I as like this as the beginning. Eating a ton (3000+ cals a day) and WIRED all the time. It did go away eventually. Actually, I kind of miss it. :) I got so much done!

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(638)

on March 31, 2013
at 07:25 PM

3000-4000 for a woman? You must be doing alot of exercise!

F92e4ca55291c3f3096a3d4d3d854986

(11698)

on March 04, 2013
at 02:00 AM

Are you unable to fall asleep, or to stay asleep? What's your stress like these days? What time do you go to bed (or try to)? Are you in a very dark, quiet, cool room? Do you get your eyes away from a screen (TV, computer etc) for at least an hour before bed? Also, melatonin (OTC at the drugstore) can really help. So can an epsom salt bath.

F92e4ca55291c3f3096a3d4d3d854986

(11698)

on March 04, 2013
at 01:57 AM

White rice is not bloating compared to starchy tubers. Try some with your meals.

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(192)

on March 03, 2013
at 11:53 PM

Have you seriously tried goat milk? Just eat the right type of starches. basically avoid gluten and whole grains. go with refined white rice and boiled tubers, it's very hard to overeat on those since they aren't that palatable on their own.

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(342)

on March 03, 2013
at 09:31 PM

I can't drink dairy. Intolerant. I was a vegan for 8 years before going paleo. Most starches seem to make me bloat, while giving me a very heavy feeling. I also tend to overeat starches- as in I will eat more than I need.

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(192)

on March 03, 2013
at 09:04 PM

Why would you avoid starches? A steady glucose release during the night is vital for sleep. Also it looks like your diet is lacking in calcium which can lead to such sleep problems. I would add in daily about a liter of goat milk or other A2 milk

A0c6d1e41fc0441b593a05050aefada7

(342)

on March 03, 2013
at 07:12 PM

posted above, thank you!

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on March 03, 2013
at 07:11 PM

I'll think about it.. but would rather avoid starches... I do eat bananas though.

A0c6d1e41fc0441b593a05050aefada7

(342)

on March 03, 2013
at 07:11 PM

I don't drink coffee or tea.

A0c6d1e41fc0441b593a05050aefada7

(342)

on March 03, 2013
at 07:10 PM

Nothing happened that was unusual two weeks ago... My weight did go down by 4 pounds... I started eating more than I usually do to try and gain it back. I haven't cheated on the diet in more than 2-3 weeks.

A0c6d1e41fc0441b593a05050aefada7

(342)

on March 03, 2013
at 07:08 PM

I also sometimes cheat on weekends- depends on the weekend. I can go weeks without cheating. I usually only do it if I feel like it, am out with friends, or it's a special event. So, sometimes I get to have a mocha from Starbucks, cheesecake, and pizza. But again, only happens maybe... 2-3 times a month max.

A0c6d1e41fc0441b593a05050aefada7

(342)

on March 03, 2013
at 07:07 PM

I workout in the morning, usually just an hour of walking. Sometimes this switches to late afternoon, depending on the day. I do pullups almost every day, but just wherever I walk past the bar that I put in a doorway. Days really differ in what I eat. I eat a lot. Yesterday: 4 sausages- gluten free 4 eggs 2 slices bacon 2 cups mixed fresh fruit --- 2 apples 10 medjool dates 2 chicken breasts 3 cups veggies ----- 4 natural hot dogs 3 oranges 6 tablespoons of peanut butter Yes, I do consume peanut butter and tofu.

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on March 03, 2013
at 01:18 PM

Have you tried doing sports at night or in the morning?

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(548)

on March 03, 2013
at 01:17 PM

Have you tried doing sport at night or in the morning?

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on March 03, 2013
at 12:45 PM

Anything that triggered this two weeks ago?

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on March 03, 2013
at 12:44 PM

Can you post what you eat for breakfast, lunch and dinner?

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7d46edca72c2f8347f65d7b734d1f1eb

on March 04, 2013
at 09:38 PM

How is your caffeine intake? I went from about 6 cups a day, always stopping before 1:00 thinking if I did that it wouldn't matter, to a strict 2 cup a day limit (cups not giant travel mugs) and I have seen vast improvement in my sleep and energy levels.

Beyond that I'd suggest you really take a step back and look at your diet, sugary cheats?, overall lifestyle, exercise (lack there of or over-training), stress level, alcohol, etc. All these things will impact your sleep and also amplify each other negatively or positively. Find balance and take an honest look at your habits and lifestyle. You might have to take a step back to find balance and take 2 forward.

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Ddfc46d6cad7806af92187643179e2cc

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on March 03, 2013
at 09:40 PM

try magnesium, 400mg before bed. I prefer magnesium oxide or lactate. Also, strctly avoid sugar or sweeteners before bed, all of them, maybe also the banana or orange. Try this for one week. magnesium always worked for me. You can also try melatonin; a lack of melatonin in your body can cause you lack of sleep, but this go away when you replenish your melatonin. A good book for info about melatonin is one written by Neil Stevens. Melatonin is a key hormone responsible for the creation of another hormones. good luck!

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on March 03, 2013
at 05:46 PM

Make yourself a massive mashed sweet potato covered in coconut oil and cinnamon. Ingest all of it 3 hours before bed.

A0c6d1e41fc0441b593a05050aefada7

(342)

on March 03, 2013
at 07:11 PM

I'll think about it.. but would rather avoid starches... I do eat bananas though.

7f266add28a9edc3e869f663c8a5bed6

(50)

on May 27, 2013
at 02:25 PM

I wouldn't avoid starches when having sleep issues. Lot's of info over at the Perfect Health Diet blog about starches and sleep.

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A0c6d1e41fc0441b593a05050aefada7

on March 17, 2013
at 05:38 PM

Turned out my caloric intake needed to be upped more- past 3000-4000. And fats upped. I guess my body thought it was starving...

81feb1022a28f534867616b9316c7aa4

(638)

on March 31, 2013
at 07:25 PM

3000-4000 for a woman? You must be doing alot of exercise!

32652cb696b75182cb121009ee4edea3

(5802)

on April 14, 2013
at 09:21 PM

Are you fairly new to paleo? I as like this as the beginning. Eating a ton (3000+ cals a day) and WIRED all the time. It did go away eventually. Actually, I kind of miss it. :) I got so much done!

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F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on March 04, 2013
at 02:15 PM

My gut tells me it is something to do with thyroids... hypothyroidism, possibly? Check out the Perfect Health Diet and Ray Peat.

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on March 03, 2013
at 06:41 PM

I'd try 100mg magnesium glycinate with every meal and of course avoid all stimulants. Caffeine has a much longer half-life than people realize.

A0c6d1e41fc0441b593a05050aefada7

(342)

on March 03, 2013
at 07:11 PM

I don't drink coffee or tea.

A0c6d1e41fc0441b593a05050aefada7

(342)

on March 03, 2013
at 09:31 PM

I can't drink dairy. Intolerant. I was a vegan for 8 years before going paleo. Most starches seem to make me bloat, while giving me a very heavy feeling. I also tend to overeat starches- as in I will eat more than I need.

Abf0b6d5e20906f742fd600887292c15

(192)

on March 03, 2013
at 11:53 PM

Have you seriously tried goat milk? Just eat the right type of starches. basically avoid gluten and whole grains. go with refined white rice and boiled tubers, it's very hard to overeat on those since they aren't that palatable on their own.

Abf0b6d5e20906f742fd600887292c15

(192)

on March 03, 2013
at 09:04 PM

Why would you avoid starches? A steady glucose release during the night is vital for sleep. Also it looks like your diet is lacking in calcium which can lead to such sleep problems. I would add in daily about a liter of goat milk or other A2 milk

F92e4ca55291c3f3096a3d4d3d854986

(11698)

on March 04, 2013
at 01:57 AM

White rice is not bloating compared to starchy tubers. Try some with your meals.

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Abf0b6d5e20906f742fd600887292c15

on March 03, 2013
at 04:53 PM

you have to post what you eat in a normal day, otherwise it's hard to give advice

A0c6d1e41fc0441b593a05050aefada7

(342)

on March 03, 2013
at 07:12 PM

posted above, thank you!

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