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Pickled ginger at sushi restaurants? Is it paleo?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created August 17, 2013 at 3:26 PM

The pink/yellow sliced ginger served at most sushi restaurants, any idea if it's paleo? Thanks!

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on August 19, 2013
at 04:28 PM

There is an abundance of information online on why one should never touch farmed salmon...

3bc294cb7745a5e99612ff886ca00101

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on August 19, 2013
at 04:27 PM

AxialGentleman, yes I use Nori sheets. Ingredients list: Seaweed. I don't see the problem! Is there something wrong with it?

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

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on August 18, 2013
at 01:59 AM

Don't get me wrong - I love and primarily only eat wild salmon. It is, however, more likely to have parasites like worms, which is undesirable in sushi, but barely noticeable if cooked. Unsafe is a strong word - "less safe if eaten raw" is the most I'd take it.

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on August 18, 2013
at 01:51 AM

Good point. The packaged crab stick (aka surimi aka krab) I've seen doesn't just have wheat added... it's something like half wheat.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on August 17, 2013
at 10:41 PM

What's unsafe about wild salmon raw?

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on August 17, 2013
at 08:47 PM

Check out http://www.naturalnews.com/036308_natural_flavors_MSG_aspartame.html

5b9a25a1a676397a25579dfad59e1d7b

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on August 17, 2013
at 08:46 PM

Food compainies have a lot of ways that they can use the term natural flavourings. From the Code of Federal Regulations - Title 21, Part 101: (3) The term natural flavor or natural flavoring means the essential oil, oleoresin, essence or extractive, -> protein hydrolysate ... Full text here: http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfcfr/CFRSearch.cfm?fr=101.22 Protein hydrolysate can be another name for MSG, depending on how it's formed. I'm sure the amount is so minute that it won't necessarily cause any issues but that doesn't mean I would want to ingest it. To each their own

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on August 17, 2013
at 08:26 PM

Just a note: if you have wheat issues, avoid the "crab stick" as all of them have wheat starch. (And if not all, every single mix I've seen -- it's basically ground fish held together with wheat starch and soy).

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

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on August 17, 2013
at 08:25 PM

Farmed salmon, compared to wild, is sadly much safer to eat raw. :-\ It makes me sad, but it's true. It also survives the freeze-unfreeze process to kill bacteria much better than delicious wild salmon.

72cf727474b8bf815fdc505e58cadfea

on August 17, 2013
at 08:23 PM

You use prepackaged nori???

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on August 17, 2013
at 08:14 PM

What a bunch of nonsense.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on August 17, 2013
at 08:13 PM

You do realise that nearly all of those are well tolerated by most folks? Is it authentic? Of course not, but hardly harmful. The same goes for aspartame and food dyes.

3bc294cb7745a5e99612ff886ca00101

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on August 17, 2013
at 08:09 PM

Reality check: even a few slices of ginger saturated in Aspartame and chemical colourings IS too much! It doesn't take a lot of that stuff to be harmful, and people generally eat much more than just 1-2 slices at a sitting.

72cf727474b8bf815fdc505e58cadfea

on August 17, 2013
at 07:23 PM

Do you have any evidence that "natural flavors" include MSG? My understanding is that in the US, all glutamate sources have to be declared under some more specific name, such as hydrolized protein.

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on August 17, 2013
at 04:48 PM

Reality check: how much of it do you really eat in a sitting? You eat a couple slices here and there. Is that problematic? No.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on August 17, 2013
at 08:14 PM

What a bunch of nonsense.

3bc294cb7745a5e99612ff886ca00101

(1186)

on August 17, 2013
at 08:09 PM

Reality check: even a few slices of ginger saturated in Aspartame and chemical colourings IS too much! It doesn't take a lot of that stuff to be harmful, and people generally eat much more than just 1-2 slices at a sitting.

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5b9a25a1a676397a25579dfad59e1d7b

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on August 17, 2013
at 03:47 PM

It depends.

If it's real pickled ginger, it's great. If it's the crap from the jar, it probably has aspartame & FD&C Red #40 in the ingredients...so I avoid it.

Traditionally red pickled ginger was coloured with the dark red variety of shiso (perilla) leaves, but these days the jarred stuff just uses crap chemicals.

Check out this article on how to make your own at home.

I'm also wary of the 'wasabi' in most of the sushi places. Typical tube wasabi that I found out was being served to me has the following ingredients:

  • horseradish
  • lactose (milk)
  • rice bran oil
  • sorbitol
  • salt
  • water
  • natural flavor <-- MSG!!
  • turmeric
  • xanthan gum
  • citric acid
  • artificial color (FD & C Yellow #5, FD & C Blue #1)

If you're going to do sushi, find a reputable place or better yet, make your own paleo sushi (or better yet, sashimi!) at home.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on August 17, 2013
at 08:13 PM

You do realise that nearly all of those are well tolerated by most folks? Is it authentic? Of course not, but hardly harmful. The same goes for aspartame and food dyes.

5b9a25a1a676397a25579dfad59e1d7b

(2318)

on August 17, 2013
at 08:46 PM

Food compainies have a lot of ways that they can use the term natural flavourings. From the Code of Federal Regulations - Title 21, Part 101: (3) The term natural flavor or natural flavoring means the essential oil, oleoresin, essence or extractive, -> protein hydrolysate ... Full text here: http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfcfr/CFRSearch.cfm?fr=101.22 Protein hydrolysate can be another name for MSG, depending on how it's formed. I'm sure the amount is so minute that it won't necessarily cause any issues but that doesn't mean I would want to ingest it. To each their own

5b9a25a1a676397a25579dfad59e1d7b

(2318)

on August 17, 2013
at 08:47 PM

Check out http://www.naturalnews.com/036308_natural_flavors_MSG_aspartame.html

72cf727474b8bf815fdc505e58cadfea

on August 17, 2013
at 07:23 PM

Do you have any evidence that "natural flavors" include MSG? My understanding is that in the US, all glutamate sources have to be declared under some more specific name, such as hydrolized protein.

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3bc294cb7745a5e99612ff886ca00101

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on August 17, 2013
at 08:07 PM

Even worse, the source of fish (farmed salmon most certainly!) they use in most sushi restaurants. Very questionable. Plus, way too much rice mixed with that high-sugar vinegar.

It's really easy to slice up and pickle ginger at home, and slap quality ingredients in some sheets of nori and slice that up, or eat as a cone roll. That's a staple lunch for me!

72cf727474b8bf815fdc505e58cadfea

on August 17, 2013
at 08:23 PM

You use prepackaged nori???

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on August 17, 2013
at 08:25 PM

Farmed salmon, compared to wild, is sadly much safer to eat raw. :-\ It makes me sad, but it's true. It also survives the freeze-unfreeze process to kill bacteria much better than delicious wild salmon.

3bc294cb7745a5e99612ff886ca00101

(1186)

on August 19, 2013
at 04:28 PM

There is an abundance of information online on why one should never touch farmed salmon...

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on August 17, 2013
at 10:41 PM

What's unsafe about wild salmon raw?

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on August 18, 2013
at 01:59 AM

Don't get me wrong - I love and primarily only eat wild salmon. It is, however, more likely to have parasites like worms, which is undesirable in sushi, but barely noticeable if cooked. Unsafe is a strong word - "less safe if eaten raw" is the most I'd take it.

3bc294cb7745a5e99612ff886ca00101

(1186)

on August 19, 2013
at 04:27 PM

AxialGentleman, yes I use Nori sheets. Ingredients list: Seaweed. I don't see the problem! Is there something wrong with it?

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