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If edamame can be eaten raw, why isn't it allowed on the paleo diet?

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Created October 22, 2011 at 4:05 PM

I thought "if it can be eaten raw, you can eat it." Why can't we eat the little beans in edamame then?

6864d23c49952605b2a97d6256af804d

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on March 06, 2013
at 09:33 PM

This site would not exist if eating healthy could be reduced to commonsense and discipline. I didn't suddenly develop commonsense or discipline when I began a Paleo diet. Only after acquiring useful information from sites like this did I begin to eat in a manner I'd consider healthy.

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on October 24, 2011
at 03:55 PM

Make that "valorizes..."

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on October 23, 2011
at 04:20 PM

Amen. I keep reading here thanks to perspectives like this.

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on October 23, 2011
at 04:19 PM

And might I add, Kasra: fortunately biochemistry supersedes anthropology. It's the proper baseline to which to keep returning. As opposed to retro-romanticism that vaporizes indigenous practices, or far distant human timelines, per se.

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on October 23, 2011
at 12:03 AM

ten parts per BILLION sounds more miniscule than moderate to me...

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on October 22, 2011
at 07:20 PM

It's not a diet that has rules... Eat edamame if you think it's healthy. I happen to think it is fine in limited amounts but would not eat it very often.

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on October 22, 2011
at 06:31 PM

I agree that dogmatism is not needed here and a little common sense is good. If you get immediate symptoms from something, then caution is obviously required. If you can't even identify follow-up symptoms, I can't see where an occasional taste is so awful if overall you feel great.

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on October 22, 2011
at 06:25 PM

Upvote. Hard to argue with anything written here. Edamame is eaten in small amounts in plenty of healthy cultures. It's probably no worse for you than almonds or other nuts, which are generally considered paleo. (And yes, even arsenic is okay in moderation. It's in your tap water. The EPA says it's safe at ten parts per billion.)

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on October 22, 2011
at 06:17 PM

Agreed. Rational paleo over dogmatic paleo.

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on October 22, 2011
at 06:08 PM

As mentioned Edemame = soybeans. To add on, most soybeans in the US are GMO soybeans, which are known to be more allergenic to humans.

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on October 22, 2011
at 05:57 PM

Here, have some Arsenic...it's only a moderate amount.

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5ef574d7893bc816ec52e04139e9bc09

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on October 22, 2011
at 04:11 PM

Edemame = soy. There are plenty of reasons not to eat soy, nicely outlined here.

Paleo isn't some arbitrary ruleset based on eating "raw" or "paleolithic" foods. Ultimately, biochemistry supersedes anthropology.

5e36f73c3f95eb4ea13a009f4936449f

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on October 22, 2011
at 06:08 PM

As mentioned Edemame = soybeans. To add on, most soybeans in the US are GMO soybeans, which are known to be more allergenic to humans.

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on October 24, 2011
at 03:55 PM

Make that "valorizes..."

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on October 23, 2011
at 04:19 PM

And might I add, Kasra: fortunately biochemistry supersedes anthropology. It's the proper baseline to which to keep returning. As opposed to retro-romanticism that vaporizes indigenous practices, or far distant human timelines, per se.

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on October 22, 2011
at 04:53 PM

Edamame aren't eaten raw. They are steamed. They make you bloat/fart. Gross.

No man-boobs for me, thanks.

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on October 22, 2011
at 06:46 PM

This is my second answer, but I can't resist adding a small rant against the idea that whether a food is commonly eaten raw equates to whether it's paleo.

The paleolithic era ended about 10,000 years ago. Humans tamed fire and cooked with it as far back as 1.8 million years ago. (See Richard Wrangham, Catching Fire.) Nobody eats potatoes raw, but they are about as paleo as grass-fed beef is.

So just because edamame is not eaten raw does not automatically make it non-paleo. (What makes it non-paleo in a reenactment sense is that it probably wasn't eaten in any significant quantities until the neolithic era. What makes it arguably non-paleo in the paleo 2.0/archevore sense is that it contains some amount of phytates and enzyme inhibitors. But really, not a lot. Mature soybeans contain high amounts of enzyme inhibitors, but edamame is made from younger beans with much lower amounts; and blanching them reduces the action of both the enzyme inhibitors and the phytates. As I said in my previous answer, edamame is probably no worse than most nuts when it comes to enzyme inhibitors and phytates.)

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E639bc85fd42430285596434a6515ad5

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on October 22, 2011
at 06:10 PM

You can eat anything raw. You can eat a tablespoon of cyanide raw if you want to ??? it's just that it will kill you. The question isn't whether something can be eaten raw. The question is whether it's poisonous. Soy is somewhat poisonous, at least if it's not fermented.

That said, edamame isn't so bad. The problem with most soy foods is that they contain enzyme inhibitors, goitrogens, phytates, and phytoestrogens. And a lot of common soy foods, like soy milk, soy burgers, soy cheese, tofurkey, etc., are just highly processed junk foods.

Edamame (which is typically boiled or steamed) is relatively unprocessed, and has lower amounts of enzyme inhibitors and phytates than most soy products. As far as snack foods go, edamame is certainly better for you than Cheetos or Doritos. It's got a decent amount of calcium, magnesium, potassium, and folate.

Still, it's far from optimal. You'd be much better off trading in your edamame for bacon.

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on October 22, 2011
at 05:25 PM

Well all of the "rules" like: "it can be eaten raw", or "a caveman could have eaten it", etc are not criteria for picking food. They're criteria for forming hypotheses about what we should think about eating. Soy is bad for you for reasons outlined above so even if it could be eaten raw there are other reasons to avoid it. Paleo isn't about following arbitrary rules it's about eating the most nutritious food with the least ill side effects

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on October 23, 2011
at 04:20 PM

Amen. I keep reading here thanks to perspectives like this.

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on October 22, 2011
at 05:09 PM

Eating endamame once in a while isn't going to hurt anybody. We need to stop with the "you can't eat that on Paleo" crap. It isn't dogma. It's a set of guiding principles. Just about anything is okay in moderation, and it's up to each of us to figure out which foods and exercises make us feel better, and which make us feel worse.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on October 22, 2011
at 06:31 PM

I agree that dogmatism is not needed here and a little common sense is good. If you get immediate symptoms from something, then caution is obviously required. If you can't even identify follow-up symptoms, I can't see where an occasional taste is so awful if overall you feel great.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on October 22, 2011
at 06:17 PM

Agreed. Rational paleo over dogmatic paleo.

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(5639)

on October 22, 2011
at 05:57 PM

Here, have some Arsenic...it's only a moderate amount.

E639bc85fd42430285596434a6515ad5

(2226)

on October 22, 2011
at 06:25 PM

Upvote. Hard to argue with anything written here. Edamame is eaten in small amounts in plenty of healthy cultures. It's probably no worse for you than almonds or other nuts, which are generally considered paleo. (And yes, even arsenic is okay in moderation. It's in your tap water. The EPA says it's safe at ten parts per billion.)

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on October 23, 2011
at 12:03 AM

ten parts per BILLION sounds more miniscule than moderate to me...

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on March 21, 2013
at 11:09 AM

All those who think a small amount of raw edamame is bad for you raise a hand. All those who have a hand raised, raise your other hand if you also drink alcoholic beverages or eaten something from an industrialised farm or taken a walk down town when there is heavy traffic. All those who have two hands raised are docile, ill informed and stupid.

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on March 06, 2013
at 09:12 PM

Edamame & soy is a staple food for Japanese people. Look at them they are skinny, healthy, look younger & they live a longer life. Here in the US they implement certain diets here and there but who got the most obese people its them. Eating healthy is just commonsense and discipline.

6864d23c49952605b2a97d6256af804d

(726)

on March 06, 2013
at 09:33 PM

This site would not exist if eating healthy could be reduced to commonsense and discipline. I didn't suddenly develop commonsense or discipline when I began a Paleo diet. Only after acquiring useful information from sites like this did I begin to eat in a manner I'd consider healthy.

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Ea55e74c1ca497e748f9e00934181cea

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on October 22, 2011
at 06:57 PM

you can eat it once in a while, I don't eat it much IMO

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