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Are peas the exception to the no legume rule? If not why not?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created September 21, 2010 at 3:49 PM

A previous post about legumes has prompted this question. I know legumes are bad - all those nasty toxins designed to stop them being eaten but what about peas? They are a legume but they are also very tasty raw, fresh from the pod. They don't have to be soaked or cooked, so does that mean they are an exception to the legume rule or should I still avoid them?

235e74b9adb57eff80592f064e1d298b

(421)

on July 31, 2013
at 07:45 PM

peanuts contain a carcinogen call aflatoxin that has been shown to cause liver cancer... Pretty bad if you ask me.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on February 07, 2013
at 05:52 PM

That is what I'm trying to imply - legumes should probably not be avoided categorically (regardless of if most legumes should be avoided!) And no, as far as I know, only the jicama root is edible.

782d92f4127823bdfb2ddfcbcf961d0e

(5231)

on February 07, 2013
at 05:23 PM

The plant may be a legume but what is commonly eaten is the tuber. IDK, are the legumes even edible?

5e5ff249c9161b8cd96d7eff6043bc3a

(4713)

on December 19, 2012
at 02:54 PM

Because of the advice or the terrible grammar?

1d0497f8781845ab371b479455bfee8e

(11157)

on July 15, 2012
at 03:17 AM

Peas are ammunition best shot from a straw.

1c4ada15ca0635582c77dbd9b1317dbf

(2614)

on September 22, 2010
at 02:08 PM

Exactly! Give peas a chance...

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19235)

on September 22, 2010
at 08:00 AM

I somehow doubt that the ills of modern society are caused by people eating too many peas :)

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on September 21, 2010
at 09:59 PM

My point is that we use certain mental heuristics like 'does not want to be eaten' and 'can be eaten raw' but they are not the whole story. In some cases they are even confusing. The problem is for the best accuracy, each food has to be looked at with the totality of knowledge about that food. And that makes it complicated at times. Being basically paleo need not be super complicated, but evaluation of each food one by one certainly can be.

4a1966b5bc00a9aefd3abd63b9913284

on September 21, 2010
at 07:44 PM

Peanuts have a greater lectin content apparently than most other nuts. They're not as bad for you as a lot of other foods out there, so I definitely vote for something like peanut butter over say, a granola bar :)

154bf5c84f7bd9f52b361b45d05dbc3a

(1215)

on September 21, 2010
at 06:33 PM

Aren't peanuts really bad for you?

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0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

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on September 21, 2010
at 09:35 PM

I tend to think of paleo more as a guide for the overall diet and the types of food that make up the majority of it. When you try to make an absolute list of allowed and banned foods it can get rather silly concerning grey area foods like peas.

Peas are a product of agriculture and result from selective breeding to reduce the levels of toxins they contain so they can be eaten raw safely. They do still have some lectin content, perhaps this is a problem.

However is there any evidence at all that eating peas is bad for your health? If not it is all just theory.

Theorising is what got eggs demonised for containing cholesterol.

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on February 13, 2011
at 08:40 AM

Yes, visualize whirled peas! I love peas, especially in a pea salad with uncured bacon and homemade mayo.

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4a1966b5bc00a9aefd3abd63b9913284

on September 21, 2010
at 03:52 PM

My typical response to this is that they shouldn't be part of your regular daily diet since they ARE a legume and they are also pretty high glycemic. That said, I don't think they contain the same lectin properties as other legumes. Green beans are also a bit of an exception to that legume rule... as are sugar snaps and snap peas I think. I asked Robb Wolf about green beans at his seminar and he pretty much said they're good to go (green beans that is).

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on February 07, 2013
at 04:44 PM

Peas contain biogenic amines (e.g., histamines) that can be problematic if you have food sensitivities as a result of leaky gut. The same can be said for salicylates that are contained in many different Paleo-friendly foods. The overarching goal of Paleo is to restore balance by reducing irritation, which is caused, in part, due to leaky gut. Thus, the goal should be to avoid foods that cause irritation via leaky gut, no matter your nutritional philosophy (e.g., GAPS, Paleo). If peas cause problems, leave them out. If you handle them well, keep them in. Given the human body's complexity, dogmatic views have no place in health.

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235e74b9adb57eff80592f064e1d298b

on July 31, 2013
at 08:07 PM

I have to agree with Stan Rodgers... Paleo or not!!!

With that said we are all individuals and living Paleo is not a club or secret society where if you dont adhere to a rule you will be abolished by that group. It is a guide to living a healthy, stress free life.

So to answer your question about peas, NO, they are not Paleo. But if you want to eat them go ahead, I really dont think they are going to kill you. If there is one thing that I have learned since going Paleo is that it is more of a set of guidelines than anything else for many, ie. I read how people are 70, 80 , 90 % Paleo or they are Primal, etc. I consider myself 100% Paleo, but that doesn't make me better than you or anyone else, it's just how I choose to be... right now. In almost 3 months I have not cheated or strayed from Paleo foods but that could easily change. I miss Pizza and Ice Cream and may indulge in the future.

So, in short, do what you feel is right for you, if you are hoping to achieve a specific goal from Paleo then you should adhere to a strict Paleo Diet, but if you are just looking for a healthier way of eating then you dont have to be as strict and you should just avoid the obvious Paleo dont's.

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on July 31, 2013
at 07:35 PM

I see how they come up with the idea for peas being on the "Not cool list". However when you are talking about snow peas the flat ones commonly used in asian cooking, the actual pea in the pod is nearly non existant, as opposed to the traditional "sweet pea" that most of you are referring to. Snow peas I think should get a pass the same way green beans get a pass. There are so many "Paleo Nazi's" out there ready to take one person's word and live and die by it. I think we all need to step back, and re-evaluate vegetables on an individual level. Saying that ALL of one type of vegetable are bad wihout CONCRETE evidence that they ALL contain the lectins or sugar or whatever is is patently ignorant and incorrect. Just my 2 cents worth.

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on February 16, 2013
at 07:26 AM

Did you know that nuts also have chemical deterrents to protect them from predators? This is why almonds are blanched, to remove the skin which contains deterrent acid. Nuts are still very healthy of course, but you must know how to prepare the specific nut, and not eat so many that they constipate you for instance, which would be unhealthy. There are things to know about legumes as well that will make them more healthy, such as removing the scum that foams to the top as they cook, and useful spices such as asafoetida that decrease gas forming effects of beans.

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Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

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on February 07, 2013
at 04:57 PM

Jicama is a legume and is beloved by many a paleo-er.

I would say the no-to-very-low lectin "green" varieties (green beans, snow peas, snap peas) as well as the non-seed portion of legume plants (e.g jicama) are "safe legumes."

Plain old green peas would fall into this category, I suppose. Frankly, I don't find them terribly interesting or tasty compared to the alternatives (if I'm going to "go there" anyway).

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on February 07, 2013
at 05:52 PM

That is what I'm trying to imply - legumes should probably not be avoided categorically (regardless of if most legumes should be avoided!) And no, as far as I know, only the jicama root is edible.

782d92f4127823bdfb2ddfcbcf961d0e

(5231)

on February 07, 2013
at 05:23 PM

The plant may be a legume but what is commonly eaten is the tuber. IDK, are the legumes even edible?

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5dd50f78f47b8848d93724d6eb38d4c1

on December 19, 2012
at 09:36 AM

Anyone who says "peas are bad for you" should be labeled a quack and ignored.

5e5ff249c9161b8cd96d7eff6043bc3a

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on December 19, 2012
at 02:54 PM

Because of the advice or the terrible grammar?

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on December 19, 2012
at 03:27 AM

According to Loren Cordain, Ph.D., author of The Paleo Diet, peas are on the list of foods to avoid. Legumes include peas and snowpeas, chickpeas, sugar snap peas. Sorry. So many other vegetables to chose from.

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on September 24, 2012
at 07:28 PM

For adhearance to the paleo diet all those other comments, such as; "can be eaten raw" "taste good" "probably is not" "should be" on and on, should be taken out of the equation. The fact is they are legumes and not to be part of the Paleo diet. 100 grams of peas = 15 grams of carbohydrates, cliflower 3, brocolli 5. That puts peas up there with banannas and grapes which are at the top of the list for fruits. A good source of carbohydrates for balancing your diet to your activity level is yams or potatoes. No grains, no legumes. Paleo or not, you choose.

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on July 15, 2012
at 03:19 AM

ye im allergic to peas...and peanuts/tree nuts.

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on July 15, 2012
at 03:16 AM

I have a friend who is 100% paleo except for that he eats a lot of peas. He is a little on the thin side, but lean and not skinny fat at all. He uses them as his "safe starch."

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62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

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on September 21, 2010
at 06:30 PM

Peanuts are also tasty raw right out of the shell.

154bf5c84f7bd9f52b361b45d05dbc3a

(1215)

on September 21, 2010
at 06:33 PM

Aren't peanuts really bad for you?

4a1966b5bc00a9aefd3abd63b9913284

on September 21, 2010
at 07:44 PM

Peanuts have a greater lectin content apparently than most other nuts. They're not as bad for you as a lot of other foods out there, so I definitely vote for something like peanut butter over say, a granola bar :)

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19235)

on September 22, 2010
at 08:00 AM

I somehow doubt that the ills of modern society are caused by people eating too many peas :)

1c4ada15ca0635582c77dbd9b1317dbf

(2614)

on September 22, 2010
at 02:08 PM

Exactly! Give peas a chance...

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on September 21, 2010
at 09:59 PM

My point is that we use certain mental heuristics like 'does not want to be eaten' and 'can be eaten raw' but they are not the whole story. In some cases they are even confusing. The problem is for the best accuracy, each food has to be looked at with the totality of knowledge about that food. And that makes it complicated at times. Being basically paleo need not be super complicated, but evaluation of each food one by one certainly can be.

235e74b9adb57eff80592f064e1d298b

(421)

on July 31, 2013
at 07:45 PM

peanuts contain a carcinogen call aflatoxin that has been shown to cause liver cancer... Pretty bad if you ask me.

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