Okay, okay. I realise that sat fats are not the demon people make it out to be.
But it occured to me the other day, that we (or me at least) are adding alot of SFAs to the diet via coconut oil, butter (and cheese), lard etc...
And also that some meats are slightly higher in SFAs or MUFA than others. Most meats however have a real good wack of MUFA.
So I started wondering if our anscestral diet would have had a bit more MUFA oriented than what I am currently eating.
Certainly alot of the diet would have been more small game orientated, whereas we tend to eat larger animals these days.
Even just eating a variety of meats, without adding SFA heavy oils/fats would probably change the balance back to more MUFA significantly.
I am considering doing a bit more slow-cooking, so I dont have to add fats/oils. This would also mitigate some of the oxidation issues, and slow cooked foods are easier to digest. Slow cooking would have been quite common I think.
I asked a somewhat related question, back when I first joined. Now that most of my calories are fat, its something I have revisited thinking about.
But i just wanted to know, does anyone eat a paleo diet with less added fats, or one that has more MUFA, rather than being sat fat focused?
Also, what does everyone think of this approach?
How easy is MUFA to oxidize via cooking? (Keeping in mind this would apply equally to the meat itself). Would that generally only happen at high rather than low temperatures?
How much of an issue is this oxidation really for health?
Just as to show what I am talking about heres some examples:
Beef, plate, inside skirt steak, separable lean only, trimmed to 1/4" (28oz): SFA: 14.2 grams, MUFA: 19.1 grams, PUFA 1.6
Pork, fresh, belly, raw (28oz): SFA: 5.4 grams, MUFA: 7.0 grams, PUFA 1.6
Chicken, broilers or fryers, meat and skin, raw (28oz): SFA: 11 grams, MUFA: 17 grams, PUFA: 8.9 grams
Duck, wild, meat and skin, raw (8.4oz): SFA 12 grams, MUFA 16 grams, PUFA 4.8 grams
Game meat, rabbit, wild, raw (1oz): SFA: 0.19 grams, MUFA: 0.17 grams, PUFA: 0.12 grams
Game meat, caribou, raw(1oz): SFA: 0.37, MUFA: 0.28, PUFA: 0.23
Bear, game (1oz): SFA: 1g, MUFA: 1.6g, PUFA: 0.7g
You can see, even with these few examples, saturated fat isnt always the dominant fat in meats. Just as often its MUFA (perhaps even more often), and sometimes theres some more significant amounts of the dreaded PUFA there too.
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on July 29, 2012
at 12:29 AM
Yes, me- definitely more MUFA than SFA. Like you've stated, virtually all meat has MUFA > SFA. I add some coconut oil/coconut milk to foods, but it's a small amount. Most of my fats come from MUFA becasuse in addition to eating animals, I consume nuts, avocado, olives, etc. So my diet is likely as follows MUFA > SFA > PUFA
For a while, after doing some reading from the Guru's, I got a little obsessed with minimizing all nuts and plant fats (trace omega 6, OMG!), and switched over to using coconut oil as my only extra fat source, but I didn't notice any changes other than it messed up the kinds of meals I like to eat, so I stopped and feel fine. Actually, I feel like a God most of the time- which is better than "fine." I figure our ancestors were fairly well adapted to consuming MUFA/o-6 in the context of tree nuts, so I don't worry about it anymore. Lesson: eat real food, don't eat gluten cereals or grains (with the exception of rice in some contexts), don't eat sugar, don't over eat, don't eat any industrialized foods in general.
on July 29, 2012
at 01:59 AM
I don't know if I get more MUFA or SF but I'm chiming in to answer that I do not use much added fat.
If I add fat it is indeed coconut oil, which is highly saturated I believe.
Most of my meals however have no added fat whatsoever. I just eat the fat that is part of the meat, nuts, etc I eat.
I prefer to get my calories from protein and carbohydrate.