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What paleo habits turn off the general public?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created July 06, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Just mentioning the paleo diet seems to get non-paleo people's hackles up. What about it does so? And are such reasons valid? Or are there paleo habits/tendencies that personally turn you off, as a paleo adherent?

E15c5c2d17c4a5d723ce7bb4437062e6

(789)

on July 09, 2012
at 03:56 PM

I usually find that when I say "No thank you," they keep pushing me to budge, which gets irritating.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on July 08, 2012
at 06:10 AM

Yeah, it does seem people are jealous of our yummy "diet" and just don't want to believe that something that could taste so good can also be good for us. I, for one, am a sexy, sexy pig. ;)

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on July 08, 2012
at 12:46 AM

Luisa, my friend was so excited yesterday because the restaurant we went to had turkey bacon on the menu. I gagged, died inside a little, then got over it and ate real bacon. =)

19acef0aed67ef8dc1118d8e74edb349

(2954)

on July 08, 2012
at 12:07 AM

You know for these people they feel like I am a pig, if I'm eating all these foods the government says are unhealthy. I mean, I eat full-fat cream? And pig bacon? BUTTER? And wait, you eat fatty cuts of beef FOUR times per week?!?!? At-least I should be "smart" and eat light cream and turkey bacon, and margarine, like the government says, right? So these people of course are angry that I eat this way and am healthy and thin.

19acef0aed67ef8dc1118d8e74edb349

(2954)

on July 07, 2012
at 11:58 PM

She didn't call me a pig, she just said I eat like a pig (reading between the lines it means she's jealous I can eat this food and be skinny and healthy, while she has to eat tasteless, low-calorie food and she's still fat and unhealthy). It's just a joke. Like if someone smells terrible one day, you might say "whoa, did you roll around in the dumpster or something?" It's just her personality, she's a goofy person.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on July 07, 2012
at 10:27 PM

Oh, and PS - if someone DARED call me a pig... my right fist would meet that trash-talking mouth, Paleo cavegirl style. Wtf is wrong with them?! How rude!

A08b210e4da7e69cd792bddc1f4aae4b

(1031)

on July 07, 2012
at 12:42 PM

You can thank NPR for that photographic nonsense (and Getty as the source). http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/06/05/154361905/commenters-bite-back-on-the-paleo-diet

5af4bc9d2c390b0bcad9524f149c1b4f

(1101)

on July 07, 2012
at 06:08 AM

I had a nurse I work with laugh off my explanation of primal with "Hey, didn't the Atkins guy like... die of a heart attack or something?" I give up!

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on July 07, 2012
at 03:35 AM

That's a huge breakfast...? Sounds normal to me- and delicious! My mom is a big pain when it comes to my eating, too. Sorry I don't want your hamburger helper, let me eat my broiled trout in peace!

F5f742cc9228eb5804114d0f3be4e587

(7660)

on July 07, 2012
at 01:33 AM

This. What is with people? 1) The evidence that this is healthy is right in front of them; and 2) Eating a piece of bread (especially to one's detriment) does not equal love.

F5f742cc9228eb5804114d0f3be4e587

(7660)

on July 07, 2012
at 01:30 AM

@Kelly, I've never, not once, offered aything unless asked, and STILL people get aggro on me when I talk about Paleo. People can be so pushy and offended when I don't want a slice of supermarket birthday cake. BLECH.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

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on July 06, 2012
at 09:46 PM

Hahaah.........good times :)

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on July 06, 2012
at 09:38 PM

Darn you, you have no idea how much YouTube'ing I'll do for that comment!

Bd142c32b4055224d3191461f1f57520

(1098)

on July 06, 2012
at 09:34 PM

I've been down-voted for expressing my humor, so don't fret. *grunt*

B1859f696e88d25460a6b8a333412ea3

(837)

on July 06, 2012
at 09:34 PM

I'd give this many more upvotes if I could!

19acef0aed67ef8dc1118d8e74edb349

(2954)

on July 06, 2012
at 09:27 PM

What a yummy sameatch!!! (umm sandwich... saMEATch... geddit, geddit...?)

19acef0aed67ef8dc1118d8e74edb349

(2954)

on July 06, 2012
at 09:25 PM

Haha, true on the "It's more expensive" thing. It was our excuse for the longest time. Boyfriend and I spent about 350 dollars *every two weeks* on SAD food. Now we spend 350 dollars per *MONTH*. We're not hungry all the time and we don't crave junk either, so it comes out a lot cheaper to eat Paleo.i

B6114a1980b1481fb18206064f3f4a4f

(3924)

on July 06, 2012
at 08:58 PM

Okay, that picture turns me off. . .

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on July 06, 2012
at 08:18 PM

haha so awesome.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on July 06, 2012
at 08:07 PM

Aren't uphill battles fun? Keep fighting the good fight and outlive them all! =)

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on July 06, 2012
at 08:04 PM

No, thank you, doesn't always work and that's when I simply say that I don't eat whatever they are eating.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on July 06, 2012
at 07:39 PM

LOL, I used to be the perpetual people pleaser and I wouldn't rock the boat. My give-a-damn finally broke and I will call BS exactly what it is: a giant, steamy pile of poo.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on July 06, 2012
at 07:23 PM

I happened to develop an appetite for pork rinds about the same time I started paleo.

F0e558010a2ecb31fa37b7c491596b8e

(3850)

on July 06, 2012
at 07:17 PM

What's wrong with saying "no thank you"? That or "thanks, I'm all set" (I live in New England) rarely elicits more than an "Are you sure? OK". I think people get annoyed when you start explaining yourself without being asked.

F0e558010a2ecb31fa37b7c491596b8e

(3850)

on July 06, 2012
at 07:17 PM

What's wrong with saying "no thank you"? That or "thaks, I'm all set" (I live in New England) rarely elicits more than an "Are you sure? OK". I think people get annoyed when you start explaining yorself without being asked.

F0e558010a2ecb31fa37b7c491596b8e

(3850)

on July 06, 2012
at 07:15 PM

What's wrong with saying "no thank you"? That or "thaks, I'm all set" (I live in New England) rarely elicits more than an "Are you sure? OK".

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on July 06, 2012
at 07:09 PM

Yes Pinky. The same thing we do every day!

E15c5c2d17c4a5d723ce7bb4437062e6

(789)

on July 06, 2012
at 06:39 PM

LOL so true, every single time I see my mom it's always, "Wait, what can't you eat again?" The ONE time she remembered and offered a bag of almonds, I declined trying to explain to her that I had already eaten some almond flour pancakes earlier, therefore I didn't want to "over-do" my Omega6, it was like her mind exploded!

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on July 06, 2012
at 05:58 PM

Nothing irks me more than my mom asking me what I eat on my diet again, and I tell her. Her response every time: So it's basically the Atkins Diet. me: NO. Her: meat, vegetables, cheese, cream, peanuts, etc. me: NOOOOOOOOO!

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on July 06, 2012
at 05:58 PM

This bothers me. "paleo" doesn't by necessity mean moderate to low carbohydrates. WHere did you read that?

11b7b7ba720a5cd43c74a0ef99a16adb

(3448)

on July 06, 2012
at 05:57 PM

Which is why I always start with "I avoid processed foods." Fruit roll ups and juice may be "made from real fruit," but it's hard to argue they aren't highly processed foods. Even the SADdest of SAD people understand that processed foods are bad.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on July 06, 2012
at 05:48 PM

Oh, Mathgirl, are you my long lost sister? ;) My mother insists that eating organic/Paleo/healthy etc is "too expensive" and she "can't afford it." I asked her how much her cigarettes cost. She was not pleased, but I was amused.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on July 06, 2012
at 05:24 PM

Really? Have we taken over the world with our diet without me noticing?

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on July 06, 2012
at 05:20 PM

My mom didn't speak to me for a week (which is not a bad thing) when my response to her 'I can't do that' was, "You CAN do it; you choose not to do it." Muttered something about sassing her and changed the subject. It was priceless.

E36cb992cf0a5eba8b97a359c15f38b3

(4347)

on July 06, 2012
at 05:06 PM

I think there are a lot of folks here who are brutally honest in their replies, but I've found there to be a good deal of intellectual openness and a lot of helpful answers here. I read a lot of blogs and sometimes lurk on other forums on which people are very rude and judgmental. I had heard Paleohacks was pretty extreme too, but I like that there's some good discussion. Granted, I ignore anything that I don't want to read. :)

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on July 06, 2012
at 05:01 PM

Funny, because everyone I've ever talked to recognizes that some natural fat in the diet is healthy (aside from vegans), be it eggs, nuts, olive oil, or real butter. Do you hang out with a lot of 8/1/1 vegans?

4ec0fe4b4aab327f7efa2dfb06b032ff

(5145)

on July 06, 2012
at 04:55 PM

Maybe that's it. This is my main contact with the paleo community online. I had always heard this was one of the more extreme places, but maybe other sites are worse.

E36cb992cf0a5eba8b97a359c15f38b3

(4347)

on July 06, 2012
at 04:53 PM

You don't think so? I see it in blog comments all the time, and even here. Less here than elsewhere, though, in all honesty. I think Paleohacks is a fairly inclusive group, but I have not noticed that within the vocal elements of the paleo community. I'm not saying it's EVERYONE, but there are loads of people I have interacted with that basically tell me I'm wrong for not being strict. Or that I'd be thin if I were strict. Same thing with the veg community. Mostly I've noticed it's newbies who get very, errrr, evangelical about their new diet, but it's very irritating.

4ec0fe4b4aab327f7efa2dfb06b032ff

(5145)

on July 06, 2012
at 04:49 PM

The ONLY time I've ever heard of people eating raw meat is in mainstream articles about paleo. As far as I can tell, it's a fever dream cooked up to stir up more page hits on usatoday.com or some such (with maybe a miniscule fringe of paleo people actually doing it).

4ec0fe4b4aab327f7efa2dfb06b032ff

(5145)

on July 06, 2012
at 04:46 PM

Or lack thereof, as the case may be.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on July 06, 2012
at 04:46 PM

Ditto. I say 'I don't eat (insert neolethal food here)' and find that it isn't challenged nearly as often.

4ec0fe4b4aab327f7efa2dfb06b032ff

(5145)

on July 06, 2012
at 04:46 PM

What you're describing really doesn't jive with my experience with paleo people and their rigidity and judgmentality.

E36cb992cf0a5eba8b97a359c15f38b3

(4347)

on July 06, 2012
at 04:44 PM

That honestly just looks disgusting. I'd be grossed out if I saw someone doing that. For goodness' sake-- at least put it on a plate and use a fork.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on July 06, 2012
at 04:44 PM

That's just nasty!

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on July 06, 2012
at 04:40 PM

Meh, tell the person with the camera to mind their own business. Let the man eat his steak I say.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on July 06, 2012
at 04:14 PM

and by 'doesn't cook real meat' I mean that she serves her family spaghetti with hot dogs mixed in. This is a weekly meal... probably twice a week.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on July 06, 2012
at 04:13 PM

I agree with saying 'I can't have it'. I just explain that I have omitted that stuff from my diet and now, even if I do want to indulge, it gives me an upset stomach so I just avoid it completely. That typically works, but that's when I'm trying to be respectful. If it's to my friends or boyfriend I just say 'wtf? oh HELL nah'.

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on July 06, 2012
at 04:12 PM

That is weird! Dude never heard of a knife and fork, lol. Theres probably more finger food than stuff we eat with utensils, but in my mind, a giant raw steak is not one of them. No, he has to eat his whole raw steak in a bag, like its a pie.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on July 06, 2012
at 04:06 PM

My friend doesn't cook real meat or vegetables for her family, so I really have no option but to turn down absolutely everything she offers. At least she's learning. She offered me fruit juice the other day and challenged me when I said no... she said it's 100% real juice though with no sugar (added). I told her to just look at the sugars and tell me if there's no sugars. She also offered me some gummy chewy things and said on the package it said 100% real fruit so it is fine. Is this real life?

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on July 06, 2012
at 03:58 PM

Probably shunning the bready/sugary snacks is one thing the non-paleo crowd doesnt like. Ordering high fat food probably isnt a turn off but raises eye brows. Asking a million things about how meat was raised or what things were braised or cooked in might not earn respect from some. But i think most people dont really know much about paleo, they just think "oh those crazy folks that want to eat like fred flinstone".

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on July 06, 2012
at 03:41 PM

Strange, I can still see it!

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on July 06, 2012
at 03:41 PM

My friends and family know I will not consume much of what they do. They offer, I turn it down, and if they challenge it, I remind them that I am there to enjoy friends, not set my healing back. When I was with family for several days last month, I prepared a Paleo meal for everyone one night and ate a grass-fed bison rib eye the next night while they ate junk food. They were all jealous.

E36cb992cf0a5eba8b97a359c15f38b3

(4347)

on July 06, 2012
at 03:37 PM

If paleo hell contains limitless potatoes with butter, I'm okay with that. ;)

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on July 06, 2012
at 03:30 PM

I hope it's inGRAINed and not inBRed. =)

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on July 06, 2012
at 03:29 PM

Darn, my picture just disappeared.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on July 06, 2012
at 03:28 PM

#1, #2, #4 would irk me a bit, and I think of myself as paleo. ;)

7f8bc7ce5c34aae50408d31812c839b0

(2698)

on July 06, 2012
at 03:28 PM

I'm sure Grok injected a few snorts betwwen grunts.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on July 06, 2012
at 03:28 PM

That should be COOK a good meal for your family. Matt, your three negatives are perfect.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on July 06, 2012
at 03:27 PM

You make it sound like it's just erroneous perceptions of paleo that turn folks off. Are there no actual things we paleos do that turn folks off?

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on July 06, 2012
at 03:26 PM

I snorted. Wait, is that Paleo?

7f8bc7ce5c34aae50408d31812c839b0

(2698)

on July 06, 2012
at 03:26 PM

Somebody down voted this innocent attempt at humor on a Friday morning! It used to have 1 up vote. I guess it wasn't funny to someone. Oh well.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on July 06, 2012
at 03:22 PM

Hrm, well, not all non-paleo diets are wrong. Nor are there no correct non-paleo diets... (3 negatives in a sentence, did I pull that off?)

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on July 06, 2012
at 03:19 PM

I'm so excommunicating your fanny (to use Robb Wolf's sanitized language) for eating a potato! :)

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on July 06, 2012
at 03:05 PM

Yes, inconvenience hits it on the head. Heaven forbid you actually have to cut something out of your schedule so you can be home to actually good a meal for your family.

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E36cb992cf0a5eba8b97a359c15f38b3

on July 06, 2012
at 02:26 PM

I can tell you want irritates me if that helps. Heh. I hate the sanctimonious crap I hear from the 'paleo police,' which is not unlike the holier-than-thou attitude of many in the vegan community. Also, I get sick of people in the paleo community calling women (and men!) fat if they're not Crossfit-poster-child-ripped. Aren't we all searching for better health? Isn't life essentially an n=1 experiment? Some in the paleo community can't eat potatoes. Some do well with dairy or WAPF pseudo-grains like buckwheat (a la Chris Kresser, etc.). Some have to be AI-protocol-strict. People need to chill out. Stress and anger are bad for you. :)

So I think that would bother me even more if I didn't know that the paleo template and evolutionary health weren't necessarily about all that.

Granted, I got irritated as hell by the vegan community for saying all obese people were fat because they eat meat and how they'd never even eat off their grandmother's cast iron pan that maybe once twenty years ago held a bit of lard.

E36cb992cf0a5eba8b97a359c15f38b3

(4347)

on July 06, 2012
at 03:37 PM

If paleo hell contains limitless potatoes with butter, I'm okay with that. ;)

4ec0fe4b4aab327f7efa2dfb06b032ff

(5145)

on July 06, 2012
at 04:55 PM

Maybe that's it. This is my main contact with the paleo community online. I had always heard this was one of the more extreme places, but maybe other sites are worse.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on July 06, 2012
at 03:19 PM

I'm so excommunicating your fanny (to use Robb Wolf's sanitized language) for eating a potato! :)

4ec0fe4b4aab327f7efa2dfb06b032ff

(5145)

on July 06, 2012
at 04:46 PM

What you're describing really doesn't jive with my experience with paleo people and their rigidity and judgmentality.

E36cb992cf0a5eba8b97a359c15f38b3

(4347)

on July 06, 2012
at 05:06 PM

I think there are a lot of folks here who are brutally honest in their replies, but I've found there to be a good deal of intellectual openness and a lot of helpful answers here. I read a lot of blogs and sometimes lurk on other forums on which people are very rude and judgmental. I had heard Paleohacks was pretty extreme too, but I like that there's some good discussion. Granted, I ignore anything that I don't want to read. :)

4ec0fe4b4aab327f7efa2dfb06b032ff

(5145)

on July 06, 2012
at 04:46 PM

Or lack thereof, as the case may be.

E36cb992cf0a5eba8b97a359c15f38b3

(4347)

on July 06, 2012
at 04:53 PM

You don't think so? I see it in blog comments all the time, and even here. Less here than elsewhere, though, in all honesty. I think Paleohacks is a fairly inclusive group, but I have not noticed that within the vocal elements of the paleo community. I'm not saying it's EVERYONE, but there are loads of people I have interacted with that basically tell me I'm wrong for not being strict. Or that I'd be thin if I were strict. Same thing with the veg community. Mostly I've noticed it's newbies who get very, errrr, evangelical about their new diet, but it's very irritating.

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B6114a1980b1481fb18206064f3f4a4f

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on July 06, 2012
at 08:56 PM

Some of the problem is the name "paleo" and the image it conveys. I mention Paleo and I get eye rolls. I mention that I'm basing my diet on evolutionary principles, sustainable food choices and my personal genetics and people seem interested and respectful. Of course I'm a Ph.D. student and hang out with very educated people, so they might not be the norm . . . But I do think some of the crap written about Paleo in mainstream media turns people off. So does the image of the "cave man" diet. It makes people think we shun science, when in fact the diet is based on science. How you present yourself and your choices is most of the battle if people want a rational conversation.

Unfortunately, most people do not want a rational conversation. I have followed a low oxalate diet for over 20 years and have rarely been able to share food with others or join in social eating. What I've discovered after eating a diet so different than the norm for so long and after coaching numerous beginners is that people are very emotionally connected to their food choices and to the human ritual of sharing food. Any diet that is very different than the social norm will be frowned on, picked apart, and scorned because it threatens the social norm of eating together and of shared and convenient food choices. As soon as a diet has been branded as something very different, especially in the name of health, and you do so confidently and with success - that is a problem to a lot of people. They react emotionally and not rationally. If people are reacting emotionally to your food choices, I think it's better to say something like "I personally feel a lot better when I eat this way" and leave it at that.

B1859f696e88d25460a6b8a333412ea3

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on July 06, 2012
at 09:34 PM

I'd give this many more upvotes if I could!

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7f8bc7ce5c34aae50408d31812c839b0

(2698)

on July 06, 2012
at 02:16 PM

When paleos try to speak paleo while talking about eating paleo it bugs me. All those grunts and moans are hard to understand! Not everything paleo is good.

7f8bc7ce5c34aae50408d31812c839b0

(2698)

on July 06, 2012
at 03:26 PM

Somebody down voted this innocent attempt at humor on a Friday morning! It used to have 1 up vote. I guess it wasn't funny to someone. Oh well.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on July 06, 2012
at 03:26 PM

I snorted. Wait, is that Paleo?

7f8bc7ce5c34aae50408d31812c839b0

(2698)

on July 06, 2012
at 03:28 PM

I'm sure Grok injected a few snorts betwwen grunts.

Bd142c32b4055224d3191461f1f57520

(1098)

on July 06, 2012
at 09:34 PM

I've been down-voted for expressing my humor, so don't fret. *grunt*

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F9638b939a6f85d67f60065677193cad

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on July 06, 2012
at 05:43 PM

What turns people off that I've noticed is that non-paleos all think paleo is just a rebranded version of the Atkins Diet. Everybody loves to hate the Atkins Diet, even paleos, which brings me to what paleos do that bothers me is hate on the Atkins Diet or on anybody who eats paleo and eats moderate to low carbohydrates.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

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on July 06, 2012
at 05:58 PM

Nothing irks me more than my mom asking me what I eat on my diet again, and I tell her. Her response every time: So it's basically the Atkins Diet. me: NO. Her: meat, vegetables, cheese, cream, peanuts, etc. me: NOOOOOOOOO!

5af4bc9d2c390b0bcad9524f149c1b4f

(1101)

on July 07, 2012
at 06:08 AM

I had a nurse I work with laugh off my explanation of primal with "Hey, didn't the Atkins guy like... die of a heart attack or something?" I give up!

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on July 06, 2012
at 08:18 PM

haha so awesome.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on July 06, 2012
at 05:58 PM

This bothers me. "paleo" doesn't by necessity mean moderate to low carbohydrates. WHere did you read that?

E15c5c2d17c4a5d723ce7bb4437062e6

(789)

on July 06, 2012
at 06:39 PM

LOL so true, every single time I see my mom it's always, "Wait, what can't you eat again?" The ONE time she remembered and offered a bag of almonds, I declined trying to explain to her that I had already eaten some almond flour pancakes earlier, therefore I didn't want to "over-do" my Omega6, it was like her mind exploded!

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on July 06, 2012
at 03:18 PM

Paleo people who eat raw meat like this (and get photographed doing so) sours me on paleo, and I'm a fan of meat, raw, rare or well-done! Can only imagine what it does for non-paleo folks. Does paleo a disservice in my opinion.

what-paleo-habits-turn-off-the-general-public?

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on July 06, 2012
at 03:41 PM

Strange, I can still see it!

E36cb992cf0a5eba8b97a359c15f38b3

(4347)

on July 06, 2012
at 04:44 PM

That honestly just looks disgusting. I'd be grossed out if I saw someone doing that. For goodness' sake-- at least put it on a plate and use a fork.

4ec0fe4b4aab327f7efa2dfb06b032ff

(5145)

on July 06, 2012
at 04:49 PM

The ONLY time I've ever heard of people eating raw meat is in mainstream articles about paleo. As far as I can tell, it's a fever dream cooked up to stir up more page hits on usatoday.com or some such (with maybe a miniscule fringe of paleo people actually doing it).

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on July 06, 2012
at 03:29 PM

Darn, my picture just disappeared.

B6114a1980b1481fb18206064f3f4a4f

(3924)

on July 06, 2012
at 08:58 PM

Okay, that picture turns me off. . .

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on July 06, 2012
at 04:40 PM

Meh, tell the person with the camera to mind their own business. Let the man eat his steak I say.

19acef0aed67ef8dc1118d8e74edb349

(2954)

on July 06, 2012
at 09:27 PM

What a yummy sameatch!!! (umm sandwich... saMEATch... geddit, geddit...?)

A08b210e4da7e69cd792bddc1f4aae4b

(1031)

on July 07, 2012
at 12:42 PM

You can thank NPR for that photographic nonsense (and Getty as the source). http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/06/05/154361905/commenters-bite-back-on-the-paleo-diet

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on July 06, 2012
at 04:12 PM

That is weird! Dude never heard of a knife and fork, lol. Theres probably more finger food than stuff we eat with utensils, but in my mind, a giant raw steak is not one of them. No, he has to eat his whole raw steak in a bag, like its a pie.

5
19acef0aed67ef8dc1118d8e74edb349

(2954)

on July 06, 2012
at 08:01 PM

Well, I get the most problem with just saturated fat.

  • A person can graze all day long, practically non-stop, on cereal, bananas, muffins, ice cream, fiber one bars, and chex mix, and no one bats an eye.

I eat 3 strips of bacon, 2 egg omelet with lots of swiss chard, a little whipped cream and some sliced strawberries for breakfast, and people give me the stink eye, call me a pig, and even get angry/resentful/jealous with me because "they can't gorge the way I do" because they "have health problems", or "are fat".

Oooooookay! Never-mind just a year ago before this diet I was nearly on my death bed... and they know this!! Even when I tell them "well, I don't eat every 30 minutes like a lot of people do, I'm just eating this breakfast and maybe some fish and vegetables for lunch, plus I don't eat dinner because I'm never hungry then, so it's not really gorging", they still are angry/jealous/resentful because I'm lucky to be healthy enough to eat this way...

Makes me want to claw my face off!

[ Edit: just thought of something else. ]
Those people who call me a pig get even more pissed off to the point of yelling insults, because one thing I tell them is... "You think I eat like a pig? That's funny. I eat so little calories that I have to force feed myself, because I'm never hungry!" This makes people soooooooo mad, I guess because they hate having to count calories on their shitty diet and they're always hungry, and to see me eating like a pig and say I NEED to eat more... that's mind-blowing to them :P

(If I don't force feed myself I eat only about 800 calories per day, because I'm never hungry... my hair was falling off until I started force-feeding myself. Oh, these people nearly faint when I tell them I use 3-5 tablespoons of animal fat to cook my food, and if I'm eating vegetables I use another 3-5 tablespoons. I know it's a lot, but 1: it's tasty 2: I need to make sure I get enough calories, and cooking fat is an easy way to do that when the thought of eating when not hungry is so repulsive to me. )

  • MIL thinks the boyfriend is going to have a heart attack because of the way I cook for him. Nevermind for the first time in his life, he doesn't have sinus problems (like runny nose 24/7/365), his dark spots on his teeth are mostly gone (whatever those things are...), and he doesn't have headaches and anger outbursts anymore.

Before he was living on processed food. Would that be better?! I can already tell how much fun it will be when I have children...

  • My mom knows eating bread and other grains makes me vomit all day long the next day (for some reason always every 30 minutes from 7AM to 7PM, funny, uh?), makes my thyroid swell up, and my hyperthyroid symptoms come back. I was visiting my family and my mom was angry with me all day long because I wouldn't eat the bread my aunt made. She said she would be offended (even after I said bread makes me sick?). Then all day long my aunt kept telling me if I was hungry and if I wanted a sandwich... :-D

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on July 07, 2012
at 03:35 AM

That's a huge breakfast...? Sounds normal to me- and delicious! My mom is a big pain when it comes to my eating, too. Sorry I don't want your hamburger helper, let me eat my broiled trout in peace!

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on July 06, 2012
at 08:07 PM

Aren't uphill battles fun? Keep fighting the good fight and outlive them all! =)

19acef0aed67ef8dc1118d8e74edb349

(2954)

on July 08, 2012
at 12:07 AM

You know for these people they feel like I am a pig, if I'm eating all these foods the government says are unhealthy. I mean, I eat full-fat cream? And pig bacon? BUTTER? And wait, you eat fatty cuts of beef FOUR times per week?!?!? At-least I should be "smart" and eat light cream and turkey bacon, and margarine, like the government says, right? So these people of course are angry that I eat this way and am healthy and thin.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on July 07, 2012
at 10:27 PM

Oh, and PS - if someone DARED call me a pig... my right fist would meet that trash-talking mouth, Paleo cavegirl style. Wtf is wrong with them?! How rude!

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on July 08, 2012
at 12:46 AM

Luisa, my friend was so excited yesterday because the restaurant we went to had turkey bacon on the menu. I gagged, died inside a little, then got over it and ate real bacon. =)

F5f742cc9228eb5804114d0f3be4e587

(7660)

on July 07, 2012
at 01:33 AM

This. What is with people? 1) The evidence that this is healthy is right in front of them; and 2) Eating a piece of bread (especially to one's detriment) does not equal love.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on July 08, 2012
at 06:10 AM

Yeah, it does seem people are jealous of our yummy "diet" and just don't want to believe that something that could taste so good can also be good for us. I, for one, am a sexy, sexy pig. ;)

19acef0aed67ef8dc1118d8e74edb349

(2954)

on July 07, 2012
at 11:58 PM

She didn't call me a pig, she just said I eat like a pig (reading between the lines it means she's jealous I can eat this food and be skinny and healthy, while she has to eat tasteless, low-calorie food and she's still fat and unhealthy). It's just a joke. Like if someone smells terrible one day, you might say "whoa, did you roll around in the dumpster or something?" It's just her personality, she's a goofy person.

5
4ec0fe4b4aab327f7efa2dfb06b032ff

(5145)

on July 06, 2012
at 04:53 PM

The thing that turns the normals off the most, in my experience, is their fear of fat. Like, how could it be ok to eat so much saturated fat? Shouldn't we be replacing that butter with margarine? How many eggs do you eat a week!?

There's also the "Oh, I couldn't live without bread/pasta."

The argument against paleo that I hate the most, I hate, hate, hate, is: "well, cavement didn't live very long!" I hate it when my interlocutor gives away the fact that s/he has literally not thought a single second before opening the yap.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on July 06, 2012
at 07:39 PM

LOL, I used to be the perpetual people pleaser and I wouldn't rock the boat. My give-a-damn finally broke and I will call BS exactly what it is: a giant, steamy pile of poo.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on July 06, 2012
at 05:48 PM

Oh, Mathgirl, are you my long lost sister? ;) My mother insists that eating organic/Paleo/healthy etc is "too expensive" and she "can't afford it." I asked her how much her cigarettes cost. She was not pleased, but I was amused.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on July 06, 2012
at 05:20 PM

My mom didn't speak to me for a week (which is not a bad thing) when my response to her 'I can't do that' was, "You CAN do it; you choose not to do it." Muttered something about sassing her and changed the subject. It was priceless.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on July 06, 2012
at 05:01 PM

Funny, because everyone I've ever talked to recognizes that some natural fat in the diet is healthy (aside from vegans), be it eggs, nuts, olive oil, or real butter. Do you hang out with a lot of 8/1/1 vegans?

19acef0aed67ef8dc1118d8e74edb349

(2954)

on July 06, 2012
at 09:25 PM

Haha, true on the "It's more expensive" thing. It was our excuse for the longest time. Boyfriend and I spent about 350 dollars *every two weeks* on SAD food. Now we spend 350 dollars per *MONTH*. We're not hungry all the time and we don't crave junk either, so it comes out a lot cheaper to eat Paleo.i

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E3d94ade13110237db50b944f89e98bd

(245)

on July 07, 2012
at 02:31 AM

Leading with the "don'ts" is a turnoff for a lot of people. If questions come up, I always say I eat meats and fruits and vegetables. It's simple and not preachy and gets the point across.

With waitstaff, I always ask them to point out the gluten free options. If it's a nice restaurant, this has never been an issue. If I still need substitutions, I always ask if it's possible to just have more X (acceptable food already served with the meal). Once or twice I've had to pay extra and was happy to do so.

Food Nazis of any flavor turn people off.

I'm curious to see what happens when I visit my parents. They aren't too pushy anymore since I did basic lower carb for years (also they don't really eat that much grain, just bread and biscuits), but I expect some minor drama. :)

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E15c5c2d17c4a5d723ce7bb4437062e6

(789)

on July 06, 2012
at 03:50 PM

Frustrating to hear from:

Non-Paleos: "That's ridiculous, you're going to die from cholesterol!" "I mean, whatever works for you, I guess, but that's not for me." "That's not healthy, you NEED carbs for energy." "So, what? - Just meat and veggies? Nuh-huh, that's no way to live, that's like, giving you nothing else to eat."

Paleos: (When speaking to a non-paleo) "Oh no, I can't have (this) or (that)."

^ ^ That irks me the most, when they say they CAN'T have it, because automatically that turns people off, like a diet, "Oh no no, I can't have rice," the person is subconsciously stressed out because they're told they cannot have something, or it stresses the other person out, because who wants to be told no? It always frustrates me when words are chosen like that. I tend to say, "No thank you, I avoid (this) or (that), it just doesn't make me feel well," that way it makes it clear that the particular kind of food isn't good for my body, as opposed to "I wish I could, but, ugh, I can't/shouldn't." Cause then you look like the starving actress with issues, lol.

Also, it's irritating when paleos talk smack to other paleos who made the choice to have a potato or cheese or dairy, I mean, it was their choice, and you can have your two cents, but otherwise you it's not fair to lecture them, they do what they do and you do what you do, it's as simple as that.

F0e558010a2ecb31fa37b7c491596b8e

(3850)

on July 06, 2012
at 07:15 PM

What's wrong with saying "no thank you"? That or "thaks, I'm all set" (I live in New England) rarely elicits more than an "Are you sure? OK".

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on July 06, 2012
at 04:13 PM

I agree with saying 'I can't have it'. I just explain that I have omitted that stuff from my diet and now, even if I do want to indulge, it gives me an upset stomach so I just avoid it completely. That typically works, but that's when I'm trying to be respectful. If it's to my friends or boyfriend I just say 'wtf? oh HELL nah'.

F0e558010a2ecb31fa37b7c491596b8e

(3850)

on July 06, 2012
at 07:17 PM

What's wrong with saying "no thank you"? That or "thanks, I'm all set" (I live in New England) rarely elicits more than an "Are you sure? OK". I think people get annoyed when you start explaining yourself without being asked.

F0e558010a2ecb31fa37b7c491596b8e

(3850)

on July 06, 2012
at 07:17 PM

What's wrong with saying "no thank you"? That or "thaks, I'm all set" (I live in New England) rarely elicits more than an "Are you sure? OK". I think people get annoyed when you start explaining yorself without being asked.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on July 06, 2012
at 04:46 PM

Ditto. I say 'I don't eat (insert neolethal food here)' and find that it isn't challenged nearly as often.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on July 06, 2012
at 08:04 PM

No, thank you, doesn't always work and that's when I simply say that I don't eat whatever they are eating.

F5f742cc9228eb5804114d0f3be4e587

(7660)

on July 07, 2012
at 01:30 AM

@Kelly, I've never, not once, offered aything unless asked, and STILL people get aggro on me when I talk about Paleo. People can be so pushy and offended when I don't want a slice of supermarket birthday cake. BLECH.

E15c5c2d17c4a5d723ce7bb4437062e6

(789)

on July 09, 2012
at 03:56 PM

I usually find that when I say "No thank you," they keep pushing me to budge, which gets irritating.

3
3356ba7b8584634c67476c213c291fe1

on July 06, 2012
at 02:26 PM

People don't like to hear that what they are doing is wrong. The only thing people are really afraid of is inconvenience. Paleo threatens that.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on July 06, 2012
at 03:05 PM

Yes, inconvenience hits it on the head. Heaven forbid you actually have to cut something out of your schedule so you can be home to actually good a meal for your family.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on July 06, 2012
at 03:22 PM

Hrm, well, not all non-paleo diets are wrong. Nor are there no correct non-paleo diets... (3 negatives in a sentence, did I pull that off?)

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on July 06, 2012
at 03:28 PM

That should be COOK a good meal for your family. Matt, your three negatives are perfect.

2
26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on July 06, 2012
at 11:47 PM

They're disgusted by the idea that they have to cook their own food.

2
76c885d7d27e6c83542ea493ca866dcd

(2178)

on July 06, 2012
at 07:17 PM

Eating PORK RINDS. So what if I do love me some fried-out pork fat? :)

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on July 06, 2012
at 07:23 PM

I happened to develop an appetite for pork rinds about the same time I started paleo.

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3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on July 06, 2012
at 04:39 PM

I've never come across a negative reaction. Have no idea what you speak of.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on July 06, 2012
at 05:24 PM

Really? Have we taken over the world with our diet without me noticing?

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on July 06, 2012
at 09:46 PM

Hahaah.........good times :)

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on July 06, 2012
at 07:09 PM

Yes Pinky. The same thing we do every day!

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on July 06, 2012
at 09:38 PM

Darn you, you have no idea how much YouTube'ing I'll do for that comment!

1
Cd77fd01d8be999aa91b8678e262f419

(825)

on July 06, 2012
at 11:26 PM

Some people I talk to dismiss it as "oh, a faddy diet" and I think it annoys them that I would be chasing some fad over eating their delicious home cooked desserts. When I start explaining, I'm entirely sure that gets annoying too. I used to be a vegetarian and it was very similar back then: "Oh, you don't eat..?" "Well, I choose not to eat it, because..."

1
C8b2136ef95ba6aac211825ff38cc0e9

on July 06, 2012
at 04:36 PM

I think people always hear the stuff the CAN'T have and react badly. No grains, legumes, dairy, alcohol, seeds, sugar... And don't really have any interest in paying attention after that. I try to explain to people that's not the point really (the restriction), it's to see what works for your body. I eat whatever I want, it's just that in my desire to feel better I don't WANT to eat cheetos. The choice is still always mine though. I think the WHOLE 30 sometimes throw people...I don't know why really. You can do the 30 or don't do the 30. People are defensive.

I mostly end up saying it boils down to not eating processed junk. If someone's interested in the convo for more than 10 seconds that makes more sense to them.

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F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

on July 06, 2012
at 02:53 PM

I've concluded things that annoy others around me:

  1. Turning down their daily food habits when offered to indulge with them.
  2. Not being able to share food with others (appetizers, entrees, eating at certain restaurants).
  3. This is a 'lifestyle', not a 'diet'. <-------People really hate this!
  4. Chanting "I'm Primal!" while running around the house with steak in my hands.
  5. People are offended that we feed our dogs 10x better than they do.
  6. Waiters get upset because my mom thinks I am eating 'healthy' so she asks the waiter for 'healthy' options for me (I can read and take care of myself, but she likes doing this for some reason). The waiter runs down a list of 10 things that are completely processed like salads with tons of bad toppings, horrid soups with pasta or beans, chicken wraps, etc. Then I order a large steak. They always get agitated.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on July 06, 2012
at 03:28 PM

#1, #2, #4 would irk me a bit, and I think of myself as paleo. ;)

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on July 06, 2012
at 04:06 PM

My friend doesn't cook real meat or vegetables for her family, so I really have no option but to turn down absolutely everything she offers. At least she's learning. She offered me fruit juice the other day and challenged me when I said no... she said it's 100% real juice though with no sugar (added). I told her to just look at the sugars and tell me if there's no sugars. She also offered me some gummy chewy things and said on the package it said 100% real fruit so it is fine. Is this real life?

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on July 06, 2012
at 04:14 PM

and by 'doesn't cook real meat' I mean that she serves her family spaghetti with hot dogs mixed in. This is a weekly meal... probably twice a week.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on July 06, 2012
at 03:41 PM

My friends and family know I will not consume much of what they do. They offer, I turn it down, and if they challenge it, I remind them that I am there to enjoy friends, not set my healing back. When I was with family for several days last month, I prepared a Paleo meal for everyone one night and ate a grass-fed bison rib eye the next night while they ate junk food. They were all jealous.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on July 06, 2012
at 04:44 PM

That's just nasty!

11b7b7ba720a5cd43c74a0ef99a16adb

(3448)

on July 06, 2012
at 05:57 PM

Which is why I always start with "I avoid processed foods." Fruit roll ups and juice may be "made from real fruit," but it's hard to argue they aren't highly processed foods. Even the SADdest of SAD people understand that processed foods are bad.

0
1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

on July 06, 2012
at 05:43 PM

  1. Announcing that "I'm paleo." - It's annoying.

  2. Demonizing all carbohydrates as the cause of obesity. - It's offensive (and wrong)

0
Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on July 06, 2012
at 02:49 PM

Probably inaccurate ideas of cavemen, modern ideas of cultural superiority and general disdain and stereotypes of "primitive" culture, and an inbred fear of fat.

Nobody likes there ideas about health challenged either, especially those of the cultural norm.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on July 06, 2012
at 03:30 PM

I hope it's inGRAINed and not inBRed. =)

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on July 06, 2012
at 03:58 PM

Probably shunning the bready/sugary snacks is one thing the non-paleo crowd doesnt like. Ordering high fat food probably isnt a turn off but raises eye brows. Asking a million things about how meat was raised or what things were braised or cooked in might not earn respect from some. But i think most people dont really know much about paleo, they just think "oh those crazy folks that want to eat like fred flinstone".

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on July 06, 2012
at 03:27 PM

You make it sound like it's just erroneous perceptions of paleo that turn folks off. Are there no actual things we paleos do that turn folks off?

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