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What do you all think of No More Mr Nice Guy and its relevance to the Paleo community?

Commented on September 18, 2013
Created September 15, 2013 at 4:45 AM

I'm reading this book No More Mr Nice Guy, which covers "Nice Guy Syndrome". One of the main premises of the book is that after the Industrial Revolution men were around less to raise children, resulting in children being raised by their wives and then women again in public schools. Fathers just aren't around enough anymore to teach boys how to be men. With the rise of the Feminist movement, some boys are being raised to believe that it's not ok for them to be who they are and attempt to conform to the models of those raising them ie "Nice Guy Syndrome".

I haven't seen much coverage in the Paleo community in psychology except perhaps from the work of Emily Deans. What struck me in reading this book was the historical perspective and I was intrigued. What were children raised like in Paleo times and how has it changed since the Neolithic Revolution? What do you all think about this book and its premise?

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hmm not sure I conveyed the message well from the book. Anyway, the revelation that "household economics" could be part of Neolithic disease seems interesting. I guess the point was that there's a lot to growing up in addition to food and lifestyle that affects development. The example here is social anxiety developing from lack of paternal influence at a young age and anxiety in general is linked to a wide variety of disorders from the nervous system to jaw development. This seems to be a relatively unexplored area of Neolithic life.

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agree with bradach, i have not read the book but it doesnt seem to make any sense, unless your only arguing against the overarching political correctness? or you are assuming others have no will or intellect of their own to make personal choices.

whos to say being a nice guy is better? or being a bad guy is better? or being neutral is better? and how would you generalize that to everyone.... as long as people arnt overly oppressive of others(even their own children) i dont see why it matters if a child was raised by a mother or a father or both... or by a community?

TL:DR- probably just the author trying to be controversial, nothing new here. society is dynamic.

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on September 15, 2013
at 02:12 PM

There's a big difference between allowing children to express their bold, adventurous natures and encouraging them to stand for what is right even when difficult or even dangerous, vs. allowing them to become boorish numbskulls who fail to develop the quintessentially human characteristics of respecting society's basic constraints, of (non-violent whenever possible) problem solving and of social diplomacy, without all of which we never would have become the dominant species we are IMO. As long as that distinction is preserved, I think it's a valid point.

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at 01:54 PM

Haven't read it, but there seems to be quite the push for highly estrogenic things in our lives. For example, all the soy products, and the push for veganism that comes with it, leading people to soy.

The false idea that meat is bad for us, and that butter and other saturated fats are bad for us - which of course are required to build proper hormones.

Hops in beer are estrogenic, though beer is supposedly a manly drink.

Fighting, as in fisticuffs has been all but obsoleted, etc., making males more docile.

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