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Which is more effective for weight loss: PSMF or Potato Diet

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Created December 20, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Please compare your experiences with the protein sparing modified fast and potato only diet in terms of dietary compliance, longterm maintenance of weight loss and rate of weight loss.

My idea is that the most effective weight loss will result from two weeks of the potato only diet followed by two weeks of PSMF.

61a27a8b7ec2264b1821923b271eaf54

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on January 02, 2013
at 09:57 PM

Half and half will be fine. Maybe just cut down a little, though. All the coffee you want is fine, just don't load it all up with cream! Eat potatoes when you normally eat. I also IF, eating at 11 and 5-6, works perfectly...if you get hungry in between, have a stockpile of pre-cooked potatoes to munch on--doesn't take much to satisfy your hunger. Here's a good 4 week plan. All-potatoes for 5 days, good paleo for 2 (get your liver, bone broth, eggs, berries, etc... but don't overeat) Repeat for 4 weeks or until you've lost all your weight. You will know in 1st week if it's working!

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on December 31, 2012
at 02:53 AM

Hey Akman! I've been wanting to try this for a while but haven't. I'm inspired to do so now since I've read people lose up to 5 lbs a week doing it! I like to put 2 T of half n half and some stevia in coffee each morning, and don't eat till around 2pm, and then again at like 4, 5 or 6pm. So those would be the times I'd eat the potatoes. Do you think the morning coffee will interfere? Also what are your thoughts on Refeeds? I want to do this for about 4 weeks. Should refeeds happen you think? And if so should the refeed foods just be meats fats and veggies? thanks!

F2d6dbb08b17f6bd5ae919b2c7b344c1

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on December 31, 2012
at 02:52 AM

Hey Akman! I've been wanting to try this for a while but haven't but I'm inspired to do so now since I've read people lose up to 5 lbs a week doing it. I like to put 2 T of half n half and some stevia in coffee each morning, and don't eat till around 2pm, and then again at like 4, 5 or 6pm. So those would be the times I'd eat the potatoes. Do you think the morning coffee will interfere? Also what are your thoughts on Refeeds? I want to do this for about 4 weeks. Should refeeds happen you think? And if so should the refeed foods just be meats fats and veggies? thanks!

92d67b02a709cad2250f10848f9178e6

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on December 21, 2012
at 12:25 AM

Thank you for actually answering the question.

92d67b02a709cad2250f10848f9178e6

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on December 20, 2012
at 11:40 PM

I know eating nothing will result in weight loss. But I am more interested in hearing about people's experiences. Have you done either or both diets?

92d67b02a709cad2250f10848f9178e6

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on December 20, 2012
at 11:39 PM

Thanks. But I am more interested in hearing about people's experiences. Do you have personal experience with either or both diets?

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on December 20, 2012
at 07:44 PM

Also, speaking statistically, extremes (statistical black swans) are short term phenomena. It's almost as close to statistical impossibility as one can get to have a series of black swans maintained through a long run.

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on December 20, 2012
at 07:42 PM

What are you saying? This doesn't even make logical sense. The average consensus can also be an extreme.

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on December 20, 2012
at 06:56 PM

But I thought low carb was not a good solution? where do I get my carbs on the breatharain diet?

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61a27a8b7ec2264b1821923b271eaf54

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on December 21, 2012
at 12:00 AM

I've done them both. Potato Diet wins hands-down. One thing everybody is missing in it's effectiveness is the Resistant Starch aspect of the potato. The resistant starch is converted into butyrate in the colon, essentially making this a high fat diet. I go into ketosis and stay there the whole time.

Here is how I do the Potato Diet:

  1. Plan on eating mostly potatoes for 5-7 days (90%+ of calories)

  2. Eat between 2 and 4lbs of potatoes daily.

  3. Other foods allowed (but optional!): 1/2 cup sauerkraut, 1 cup bone broth, 1 tsp max daily coconut oil, olive oil, or butter, 1-2oz lean meat daily. Unlimited coffee, tea, and water.

  4. Spices, salt, pepper, and vinegar OK.

  5. Lifting of Heavy Things discouraged, think ???de-load week??? Lifting light things/walking OK.

  6. All normal supplements OK to continue

  7. IF???ing, especially by skipping breakfast encouraged.

  8. If you need to lose more weight, alternate the Potato diet with healthy Paleo in 5-7 day increments.

  9. Not recommended for people who eat every 2-3 hours, have glucose issues, or have eating disorders.

  10. Highly recommended for people who have their hunger under control, have been eating Paleo style for 6 months or more, and are having trouble losing weight with the normal approaches.

92d67b02a709cad2250f10848f9178e6

(2422)

on December 21, 2012
at 12:25 AM

Thank you for actually answering the question.

F2d6dbb08b17f6bd5ae919b2c7b344c1

(23)

on December 31, 2012
at 02:53 AM

Hey Akman! I've been wanting to try this for a while but haven't. I'm inspired to do so now since I've read people lose up to 5 lbs a week doing it! I like to put 2 T of half n half and some stevia in coffee each morning, and don't eat till around 2pm, and then again at like 4, 5 or 6pm. So those would be the times I'd eat the potatoes. Do you think the morning coffee will interfere? Also what are your thoughts on Refeeds? I want to do this for about 4 weeks. Should refeeds happen you think? And if so should the refeed foods just be meats fats and veggies? thanks!

F2d6dbb08b17f6bd5ae919b2c7b344c1

(23)

on December 31, 2012
at 02:52 AM

Hey Akman! I've been wanting to try this for a while but haven't but I'm inspired to do so now since I've read people lose up to 5 lbs a week doing it. I like to put 2 T of half n half and some stevia in coffee each morning, and don't eat till around 2pm, and then again at like 4, 5 or 6pm. So those would be the times I'd eat the potatoes. Do you think the morning coffee will interfere? Also what are your thoughts on Refeeds? I want to do this for about 4 weeks. Should refeeds happen you think? And if so should the refeed foods just be meats fats and veggies? thanks!

61a27a8b7ec2264b1821923b271eaf54

(3175)

on January 02, 2013
at 09:57 PM

Half and half will be fine. Maybe just cut down a little, though. All the coffee you want is fine, just don't load it all up with cream! Eat potatoes when you normally eat. I also IF, eating at 11 and 5-6, works perfectly...if you get hungry in between, have a stockpile of pre-cooked potatoes to munch on--doesn't take much to satisfy your hunger. Here's a good 4 week plan. All-potatoes for 5 days, good paleo for 2 (get your liver, bone broth, eggs, berries, etc... but don't overeat) Repeat for 4 weeks or until you've lost all your weight. You will know in 1st week if it's working!

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1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

on December 20, 2012
at 06:35 PM

Why one extreme or the other? Have you considered combining the two? Coincidentally a combination of the two happens to be what the overwhelming majority of body conscious athletes, fitness models, and informed people who are trying to get fit follow. This "diet" (but really everyone calls it a lifestyle) is 1-1.5 grams of protein/lb of (desired) body weight, with the remainder of calories coming from "healthy fats" and properly timed starch around workouts (fruit is used most sparingly).

Unfortunately, here on paleohacks, starches are seen as foods to be eliminated during fat loss. Maybe weight loss, but for fat loss they're pretty imperative. The Jaminet's seem to understand this, and they're PHD for weight loss is I think an extremely solid guideline- meat/fish, vegetables, and starch. To turn into into the mainstream "fitness" diet, just increase the protein a little and decrease the fat a little, keep carbs essentially the same as PHD recommends but eat the strategically throughout the day (ideally post workout, often pre workout depending upon the types of workouts being completed).

So, yeah, try combining them while maintaining a calorie deficit. Also, differentiate between weight and fat loss. If you just want to lose weight, then starve yourself like JayJay said. If you want to lose fat and get lean or toned, then I highly recommend something along the lines of the above.

Anecdotally, I when I entirely remove fruit my diet I get noticeably leaner in a matter of days. If I drop starch from diet I become less cut.

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on December 20, 2012
at 10:12 PM

Well, the potato diet makes me want to kill myself, whereas a fast ain't too bad, as long as it doesn't last too long and I've had enough sleep the night before.

If you have appetite issues go look up the Shangri-La diet. That plus a low-carb paleo diet, with a calorie deficit, is where it is at. Looking back on it, I don't think you can lose faster than I did, especially not in a health way. Intermittent fasting seemed to work for a little while too, but it turned out to be too much. It may be good for someone who already has everything else dialed in, but if you are trying to lose weight as fast as possible, it turns out you need to keep your body happy by keeping those nutrients topped up.

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on December 20, 2012
at 07:16 PM

Don't listen to the "average" consensus, the extremes are where change happens.

Report back and and inspire others.

The end.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on December 20, 2012
at 07:42 PM

What are you saying? This doesn't even make logical sense. The average consensus can also be an extreme.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on December 20, 2012
at 07:44 PM

Also, speaking statistically, extremes (statistical black swans) are short term phenomena. It's almost as close to statistical impossibility as one can get to have a series of black swans maintained through a long run.

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on December 20, 2012
at 06:51 PM

honestly, this is over the top. create a mild energy deficit, and eat paleo foods. be patient.

92d67b02a709cad2250f10848f9178e6

(2422)

on December 20, 2012
at 11:39 PM

Thanks. But I am more interested in hearing about people's experiences. Do you have personal experience with either or both diets?

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on December 20, 2012
at 03:57 PM

The breatharian diet will blow em both away for weight loss. Consume nothing but air and watch the weight just drop away!

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on December 20, 2012
at 06:56 PM

But I thought low carb was not a good solution? where do I get my carbs on the breatharain diet?

92d67b02a709cad2250f10848f9178e6

(2422)

on December 20, 2012
at 11:40 PM

I know eating nothing will result in weight loss. But I am more interested in hearing about people's experiences. Have you done either or both diets?

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