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Always eating a protein, a fat and a vegetable together - the holy trinity? Why?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created September 25, 2012 at 1:03 PM

I had a wonderful nutritionist who introduced me to paleo, but then she died soon after :( so I can't ask her the following question.

She told me to always aim to have a protein, fat and vegetable at the same meal. Like eggs with spinach and butter...

I am wondering if this is true, and why? I never thought to ask her...

I had also posted a long time ago - I have celiac, PCOS ..I had lost a bunch of weight on paleo, had hit 200 pounds, then quickly lost some as soon as starting paleo (I didnt know I had celiac at that point, so the first 10 was probably water), and definitely stalled at 183 (got to 173 only by drinking 2 superberry shakes a day and a small meal, and now I'm back to 193 :( despite still eating paleo. I had forgotten the protein, fat and a vegetable together rule she gave me and am wondering if this is why the weight came back....

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on September 25, 2012
at 08:45 PM

I can't see why that would be the holy trinity. However, I would hypothesize that if one eats vegetables, it makes sense to have some fat with them, as many of the vitamins are fat-soluble and are more likely to be absorbed if accompanied by fat.

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on September 25, 2012
at 07:55 PM

Thanks - yep I was on the low end of thyroid and was put on naturethroid (my doc is liberal and smart), but it didn't make a difference, even in how i felt. I dont have hypo symptoms. I DO have high cortisol and that could be partially it. You are right, quantity matters. I dont eat much at all now and am still fat, but a lot of that is insulin I think. The PCOS and cortisol :( I'm still o the hunt to figure out exactly what I can do about this, but I dont think I am a typical paleo not to crack ;) too many hormonal problems. But thanks for your post!!!!

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at 07:52 PM

great comments!! Thank you. i stopped with the shakes. i was getting too "high" (maybe had a lot of carbs), not hungry, but honestly couldnt believe i couldnt get past 173 with them so I went back to paleo. i know weight doesnt neccesarily equal health but I hate being a size 12/14. Arms and legs? look hot. Tire around the middle? Not so hot! Doh.

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at 04:03 PM

She might have told you that just to emphasize the importance of well-balanced meals or something. There is no real Golden Rule to meal partitioning like that.

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at 02:42 PM

Weight does not equal health. But body composition is a reliable indicator. So, don't ignore that.

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at 02:21 PM

I would second that weight =/= health, but would add also that for some, relying on liquid calories in the long term may make it more difficult to recognize satiety. See if focusing on whole foods helps with energy, feeling good/healthy.

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Weight =/= health

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on September 25, 2012
at 02:05 PM

Is it true that you always have to, no. But it can help with a couple of things.

???Protein and fat slow digestion, so if any of your veggies are higher on the glycemic index it helps to lower the overall value for the meal.

???Fats allow for the absorption of fat soluble vitamins. Without fat you can not get Vit A,D,E or K out of your food at any substantial level.

But:

Some nutrients block the absorption of others, so having single things is also not bad or lethal.

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on September 25, 2012
at 02:21 PM

I would second that weight =/= health, but would add also that for some, relying on liquid calories in the long term may make it more difficult to recognize satiety. See if focusing on whole foods helps with energy, feeling good/healthy.

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on September 25, 2012
at 07:52 PM

great comments!! Thank you. i stopped with the shakes. i was getting too "high" (maybe had a lot of carbs), not hungry, but honestly couldnt believe i couldnt get past 173 with them so I went back to paleo. i know weight doesnt neccesarily equal health but I hate being a size 12/14. Arms and legs? look hot. Tire around the middle? Not so hot! Doh.

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on September 25, 2012
at 03:28 PM

200 to 183 is terrific! And not to try to be a cheerleader here, but even at 193, give or take those extra 5 pounds of water many of us retain and then shed again on any given day, you might only have gained 5 or so pounds back. If you were exercising, you might have added muscle. As others have said, weight doesn't necessarily equal health.

Having said that, while eating protein/fat/veg together is perfectly fine, it's also probably perfectly fine not to. I wouldn't necessarily suspect it as the cause of weight troubles, but we need more information about what you do eat, and how much. Quantity does matter. Here on PH, one can get the impression that it's impossible to get or stay fat on paleo, but of course that isn't true--lots of paleo folks carry extra weight.

Also, importantly I think, you mention PCOS. I understand it's common for this to occur along with thyroid troubles. I hope this would be the case for a female with your issues, but is thyroid testing a routine part of managing PCOS? I have read reports of research connecting hypothyroidism with both celiac disease, and PCOS. Untreated hypothyroidism can make weight loss practically impossible, no matter how litte one eats.

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on September 25, 2012
at 07:55 PM

Thanks - yep I was on the low end of thyroid and was put on naturethroid (my doc is liberal and smart), but it didn't make a difference, even in how i felt. I dont have hypo symptoms. I DO have high cortisol and that could be partially it. You are right, quantity matters. I dont eat much at all now and am still fat, but a lot of that is insulin I think. The PCOS and cortisol :( I'm still o the hunt to figure out exactly what I can do about this, but I dont think I am a typical paleo not to crack ;) too many hormonal problems. But thanks for your post!!!!

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