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PROTEIN limitations and ratios

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created April 16, 2011 at 6:21 PM

Hi. I am looking for some info on what the best P:F(protein:Fat) ratio is. I have often viewed protein as a 'catalyst' for the other macronutrients as it seems the more of the former one consumes(up to x limit: what?) the more of the latter two(carbs/fats) one is able to consume without a change on the fat/adipse side of body composition(on the muscle side perhaps). Is this attributable to 'protein synthesis' or some such anabolic process? Whatare the limits to ingestion per sitting for protein and what is the best ratio to implement in structuring a diet so as not to become a lardo/anaemic person? So far I have taken a cue from the PALEOs on this site and decided to follow the 'leangains' site approach to IFing. Currently I am consuming 3 meals at 1000-1100 kcals. each and it seems to be working well(better than interrupting one's life every 2, 3, 4, etc. hours as I had previously done). I am wondering if the old school approach of the farmer in the fields would be best: big breakfast...big supper?(maybe 2 meals max per day?). Whatare the limits, in short, to protein per time and how much fat would one want to consume simultaneously to maintain energy balance expressed in terms of a ratio? With respect to myself I weight-train daily and walk 1 hour for exercise, the latter broken up into two ~35 min. sessions. Advice?

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

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on April 19, 2011
at 09:54 PM

don't do it Doc! lol.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 17, 2011
at 04:52 PM

Thanks for presecription doc, Would you care to provide a link?

2f54dbe892ec89b12d1db686568e885a

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on April 17, 2011
at 12:52 PM

avoid deviation

2f54dbe892ec89b12d1db686568e885a

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on April 17, 2011
at 12:49 PM

Or superman - when do you know you are walking/moving efficiently, if not already?

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on April 17, 2011
at 02:48 AM

Too many meals spells doom for leptin and cortisol......bad advice here.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 16, 2011
at 09:06 PM

Intuitive! I have thought this would be a fair idea...but as sun tzu said: "a slight deviation becomes a greater deviation over time"(assuming non-parrallelism).

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 16, 2011
at 08:59 PM

Stoical stuff. I like to live a planned and structured life. I'll check the books though, thanks for the refs.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 16, 2011
at 08:58 PM

I have always been too much of an Icarian. Time to come down to earth(but that requires walking/moving...and one seeks to do so efficiently, hence my question).

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on April 16, 2011
at 07:25 PM

"Persuade thyself that imperfection and inconvenience are the natural lot of mortals, and there will be no room for discontent, neither for despair."

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

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on April 16, 2011
at 07:10 PM

Perfection, the enemy.

2f54dbe892ec89b12d1db686568e885a

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on April 16, 2011
at 06:42 PM

per ardua ad astra, perhaps

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on April 16, 2011
at 06:38 PM

Depends upon your activity level and your ferrari's hormone levels......there is no canned answer to this. The fact that you seem to be looking for one is more problematic.... Learn your engines requirements first......rely on no guidelines. Then you will soar.

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21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on April 16, 2011
at 06:42 PM

Dude, PersonMan! Too many questions! Some of the other hacks with the "protein" label answer some of your questions. And googling "Warrior diet" or "Paleo meal frequency" and other such things can give you more details.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on April 16, 2011
at 07:25 PM

"Persuade thyself that imperfection and inconvenience are the natural lot of mortals, and there will be no room for discontent, neither for despair."

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 16, 2011
at 08:59 PM

Stoical stuff. I like to live a planned and structured life. I'll check the books though, thanks for the refs.

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

(2399)

on April 16, 2011
at 07:10 PM

Perfection, the enemy.

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Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

(18472)

on April 17, 2011
at 12:10 AM

not an actual question

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64433a05384cd9717c1aa6bf7e98b661

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on April 16, 2011
at 06:54 PM

I like eating two meals/day the most, but that came from trial and error.

Eat as much as you want when you are hungry, then don't eat again until you're hungry, and eat as much as you want.

This may sound a bit daft, but if you're eating clean paleo foods everything else should kinda fall into place when you eat like that.

2f54dbe892ec89b12d1db686568e885a

(919)

on April 17, 2011
at 12:52 PM

avoid deviation

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 16, 2011
at 09:06 PM

Intuitive! I have thought this would be a fair idea...but as sun tzu said: "a slight deviation becomes a greater deviation over time"(assuming non-parrallelism).

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on April 16, 2011
at 06:46 PM

Idk about the ratio. But your total PRO for the day should be 1.5x you BW in Kilos. More meals the better for positive nitrogen balance. And your cardio should be one session at that length of time. It takes 30mins to begin lipolysis, which also stops after 120mins. You should be doing low intensity cardio fasted first thing in the morning. I start with 30mins/day working up in 5min increments per week if I didn't loose 2lbs or my composition changed unfavorably. Once you get to 120mins then break it up into 2 sessions.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 17, 2011
at 04:52 PM

Thanks for presecription doc, Would you care to provide a link?

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25482)

on April 17, 2011
at 02:48 AM

Too many meals spells doom for leptin and cortisol......bad advice here.

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

(18472)

on April 19, 2011
at 09:54 PM

don't do it Doc! lol.

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