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Protein content of white vs brown vs sourdough bread?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created June 01, 2010 at 8:02 PM

Which of these is the best protein source?

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

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on June 02, 2010
at 01:06 AM

@Morgan -- Of course, it is not coincidence, Durandal is simply trolling. Thus far, I have had a remarkably light-hand when it comes to moderating, but it looks like I will have to step it up a bit.

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

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on June 02, 2010
at 01:01 AM

@Durandal -- Now you are intentionally trolling/provoking me. Not cool.

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on June 01, 2010
at 10:30 PM

It's a sincere question: I have a friend with a spleen problem than means he is intolerant of selenium, so he can't eat meat of any sort.

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

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on June 01, 2010
at 10:13 PM

@Durandal -- consider it lucky that the moderator of PaleoHacks (i.e. me) has a sense of humor about these things.

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on June 01, 2010
at 10:04 PM

i like it. we are friends...

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

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on June 01, 2010
at 09:36 PM

perfect response. i wholeheartedly agree.

4145b36f1488224964edac6258b75aff

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on June 01, 2010
at 09:13 PM

I think that sort of thing takes care of itself. "Any opinions on Kant's resolution to Agrippa's trilemma?" is probably going to get zero attention and thus just disappear naturally. My question above wasn't rhetorical, incidentally - do people vote based on their perception of the "paleo correctness" of something or should they upvote based on how well the question is stated? Right now it seems that the former is the case, and that seems to be controversial at the moment.

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on June 01, 2010
at 09:08 PM

OK, there are plenty of great questions that don't belong here though. "Should I believe in God?" "Which programming language should I learn?" This is paleohacks, not foodhacks, not lifehacks.

4145b36f1488224964edac6258b75aff

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on June 01, 2010
at 09:05 PM

I think some clarity on the vote buttons is necessary. People are using them as "I agree with this!" more than they are "this is objectively a good question or answer". A question about sourdough might be an amazing sourdough question that a lot of people disagree with. Which way should they vote?

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on June 01, 2010
at 09:03 PM

I don't think there should be any rule, but people should expect to get voted down if they post "What is the best sourdough starter?"

6c79890eb2299109d3caf4c6ecdfe6cc

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on June 01, 2010
at 08:46 PM

As a reference to the previous post... nice. This one made me laugh. Up vote.

4145b36f1488224964edac6258b75aff

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on June 01, 2010
at 08:43 PM

At trolling. Intent matters.

60b0d3e60670f645cca59f67710b4820

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on June 01, 2010
at 08:27 PM

Where do you draw the line?

4145b36f1488224964edac6258b75aff

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on June 01, 2010
at 08:09 PM

Come on now. Aside from being an obvious troll given the recent green beans protein thing, this information is readily available with basic google searching. Which makes it even more obvious that it's a troll. Uncalled for.

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9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on June 01, 2010
at 08:44 PM

Some of us do eat foods like this. I, like Stephen at Whole Health Source, sometimes make idlis, which are fermented rice and lentils. Are idlis bad? I don't think so. Are they paleo? No freaking way. When I have problems with my idli batter fermenting improperly I post questions in the numerous "real food" sites out there. I love paleo and I'm mostly paleo, but I'm not expecting paleo or paleohacks.com to be the end all and be all of my paleo experience.

There is a lot of crossover between the two communities, but in my experience mixing events and sites doesn't work so well. Go ahead, post whatever, but don't get your feelings hurt if your question about an recognizably non-paleo food gets voted down. Who knows? Maybe it will become popular enough to be "primal" like dairy is.

Sites for "real foodies" WAPF Completely Nourished Cheeseslave Nutrition and Physical Regeneration Nourishing Gourmet

There is also the #realfood twitter hash tag.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

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on June 01, 2010
at 09:36 PM

perfect response. i wholeheartedly agree.

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4145b36f1488224964edac6258b75aff

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on June 01, 2010
at 09:00 PM

I'm probably not going to make any friends with this answer, but here goes..

We should not be in the business of restricting what people talk about based on our version of paleo. However, people need to learn how to handle other people strongly disagreeing with them or dismissing them. I wish everyone could dispassionately debate things in a Spock-like manner but that's just not the way the world works. Push back. Never let yourself dip to the personal or the theatrical and strive always to be more accurate and more well informed. Someone posting aggressively or dismissively or dogmatically is a challenge to be overcome, not a problem to be complained about or to be repressed with another form of communal dogmatism.

I don't think there should be any official restriction on what people talk about. I think the power of the internet is that it is an arena for unrestricted idea warfare. I would strongly encourage the community to uphold skepticism, rigor and respect for even the most foolish of questions, while cautioning everyone to not let that stop them from vigorously challenging that which they disagree with. We should be fostering an atmosphere of lively debate. Without disagreement and reconciliation there is nothing to talk about, no way to challenge one's understanding of something, and that brings stagnation.

So bring on the questions about non-paleo foods, and bring on the adamant paleo-centric responses. If the question has merit or is well founded it will naturally defeat an unfounded response, and vice versa. Let the chips fall!

edit: Looks like the question is back in its original form.

4145b36f1488224964edac6258b75aff

(7821)

on June 01, 2010
at 09:13 PM

I think that sort of thing takes care of itself. "Any opinions on Kant's resolution to Agrippa's trilemma?" is probably going to get zero attention and thus just disappear naturally. My question above wasn't rhetorical, incidentally - do people vote based on their perception of the "paleo correctness" of something or should they upvote based on how well the question is stated? Right now it seems that the former is the case, and that seems to be controversial at the moment.

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on June 01, 2010
at 09:08 PM

OK, there are plenty of great questions that don't belong here though. "Should I believe in God?" "Which programming language should I learn?" This is paleohacks, not foodhacks, not lifehacks.

1340fe0b7e7b01683ea33042092e05d6

(1693)

on June 01, 2010
at 10:04 PM

i like it. we are friends...

4145b36f1488224964edac6258b75aff

(7821)

on June 01, 2010
at 09:05 PM

I think some clarity on the vote buttons is necessary. People are using them as "I agree with this!" more than they are "this is objectively a good question or answer". A question about sourdough might be an amazing sourdough question that a lot of people disagree with. Which way should they vote?

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on June 01, 2010
at 09:03 PM

I don't think there should be any rule, but people should expect to get voted down if they post "What is the best sourdough starter?"

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78ecfc8268ec58cdc189301f4b071088

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on June 01, 2010
at 10:59 PM

The funniest part is: this question was posted just hours after the "Are PaleoHackers becoming increasingly dogmatic" thread (< http://paleohacks.com/questions/5452/meta-are-paleohackers-becoming-irritatingly-dogmatic >).

The timing is so perfect, I think it had to have been intentional, just to make us laugh: I mean, someone accuses us of being dogmatic and then moments later someone pushes us to to the limits of beliefs!

Coincidence? I think not!

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on June 02, 2010
at 01:06 AM

@Morgan -- Of course, it is not coincidence, Durandal is simply trolling. Thus far, I have had a remarkably light-hand when it comes to moderating, but it looks like I will have to step it up a bit.

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