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Protein and Joint Pain

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created November 22, 2011 at 8:08 PM

I tried a Paleo diet last year, for three weeks. I did it to eliminate sugar/carb cravings and to get rid of IBS. It worked for those two purposes, however, it also caused horrible joint pain, which, by the end of the three weeks, had progressed to nearly every joint in my body. I added starches back into my diet, and the joint pain gradually subsided. Now I just have mild twinges of pain. If I try to eat more than just small amounts of meat or legumes, the joint pains come back within 15 minutes of having eaten the protein-rich food. Why would this happen? Everyone I talk to says their joint pains were RELIEVED by eating Paleo. Mine were CAUSED by eating Paleo, as far as I can tell.

Thanks for any insight!

Shauna

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on December 02, 2011
at 07:08 PM

Not only. NAC is like... uber mega imba awesomeness. It can be used as mucolitic, antioxidant, methyl mercury chelator, nephritis, hepatithis, aids.... you imagine, cystein do it.

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on December 02, 2011
at 02:35 PM

Good catch maj, cysteine is anti-inflammatory.

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on December 02, 2011
at 02:03 PM

Cystein inflamatory ? Kamal, you really really need to check out your sources.

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on December 02, 2011
at 02:00 PM

cysteine inflammatory ? LOL

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on December 02, 2011
at 03:33 AM

you gout that right, mer!

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on December 02, 2011
at 03:27 AM

excess iron #paleo :)...............

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on November 23, 2011
at 08:14 AM

Your body doesn't excrete the waste products of protein very well. Did you eat a large amount of protein daily?

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on November 22, 2011
at 09:37 PM

  1. Gout (probably not without large concurrent fructose intake)
  2. Inflammatory amino acids (methionine...but probably not because of immediate onset of pain)
  3. Allergic reaction to a protein (probably not, as very few people are truly allergic to beef protein, fish protein, etc)
  4. Unrelated to nutrition- if the initial "attack" was concurrent with eating something, your brain can and will use that against you in Pavlovian fashion. Future intake of similar foods may produce the same pain signal.
  5. Nitrates (probably not, as I don't imagine you're eating large amounts of cured meats)
  6. House, MD (meaning...there may be a crazier explanation at play here. For example, maybe meat upset your tummy at some point, you had a crazy gut bacteria reaction, blah blah)

Solutions? #paleo

Try isolating the variables. Have protein powder isolate to see if it the protein at fault or something else in the food. Try meat fat (e.g. lard) to see if it produces symptoms. Try fasting for a day to see if it's food related at all. Heck, even try some soy protein isolate to see what that does. Obviously, don't hesitate to go to a doctor if it gets bad. Report back!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on December 02, 2011
at 02:00 PM

cysteine inflammatory ? LOL

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

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on December 02, 2011
at 02:35 PM

Good catch maj, cysteine is anti-inflammatory.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on December 02, 2011
at 03:33 AM

you gout that right, mer!

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

(16131)

on December 02, 2011
at 03:27 AM

excess iron #paleo :)...............

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on December 02, 2011
at 02:03 PM

Cystein inflamatory ? Kamal, you really really need to check out your sources.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on December 02, 2011
at 07:08 PM

Not only. NAC is like... uber mega imba awesomeness. It can be used as mucolitic, antioxidant, methyl mercury chelator, nephritis, hepatithis, aids.... you imagine, cystein do it.

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on December 20, 2011
at 12:05 PM

Shauna - any updates on your status? what have you tried? what has been the result? i'm 10 months into a process of improving my diet, last 90 days have been substantially paleo, and last 3 weeks substantially ketogenic (approx 6% cal from carbs, 61% from fat, 33% from protein). eating 1.25g protein per pound body weight. i'm an avid cross fitter but joint pain started about a month ago and it seems to be progressing (knees, now shoulders, and into elbow). i'm pretty fit for a 56 year old (13% body fat, & good strength, metcon, and speed) and don't want to think that i'm getting stopped in my tracks by arthritis or something like that. i hope to heck that my diet experimentation is the cause of my problems as opposed to soemthing i CAN'T control. so, how are you doing in your quest? thanks.

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on November 22, 2011
at 11:29 PM

I think you should see a doctor to rule out things like Lymes disease or something autoimmune. A good GP could probably handle it but you could also go to a rheumatologist.

It seems unlikely to be related to protein in general since you say you aren't having much protein now.... It might help if you provided a lot more detail here - like is the problem related to specific proteins or just any protein, how much protein and what kind were you eating before, etc.

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on April 30, 2014
at 11:33 AM

Joint pain by food like meat or legumes stems from a condition called gout. This condition arises due to high level of uric acid that crystallizes and forms deposits in joints and tissues of the body resulting in inflammation causing joint pain. Meat or legumes are high in purines that form uric acid when they break down. These results in high level of uric acid in he body increases the joint pain caused by Gout. Legumes are rich in minerals and vitamins are ok to eat only when not suffering from Gout. Red Meat is considered as one of the triggers of the gout.

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on April 29, 2014
at 10:41 AM

When the joint pain considered with the Paleo Diet some of its facts can help in reducing joint pain. For example Gluten, which is found in bread, is one of the causes of Joint pain. People facing arthritis are encouraged to take gluten free breads. Canned fruits, chips, soda, high fructose and salt etc. in processed food is also one of the causes of inflammation in joints. Purine found in High-Fat dairy converts into uric acid forming crystals. This crystals causes pain in the joint,

Better solution is to follow the above given foodstuff.

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on December 12, 2011
at 09:00 PM

You may want to look into the type of protein you are eating. The paleo diet cleans out your system and your body may be more sensitive to things you are eating that contain toxins. For example commercial non organic chicken has Arsenic added to it, and beef has crap like hormones and antibiotics that your system may be more sensitive to now.

I have had a similar problem that comes and goes and I am trying to figure out what is may be. I do not eat commercial meat, but I do eat fish, so maybe something in that.

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on November 22, 2011
at 10:05 PM

Iron overload can cause joint pain. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_overload

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on November 22, 2011
at 09:09 PM

(Maybe too many purines?) Gout?

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on November 22, 2011
at 09:00 PM

My joints ached too. And my left knee sounds like someone ripping velcro when I squat now!

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