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My skin seems to be getting drier - am I missing some nutrients?

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Created May 14, 2010 at 1:57 PM

I've been eating paleo - fairly strictly - for almost exactly six months now. Upsides - asthma better than I can remember. Weight loss good, energy improved, sleeping better and - people commenting on how well I look.

Downside is an unfortunate tendency to diarrhea. And the last few days the skin on my face has gone very dry, with wrinkles and lines forming beside and under my eyes.

I am eating abut 110 grams protein a day, plenty of animal fat (lard, meat dripping, cream, butter) fish a few times a week, lots of eggs (at least one a day) and plenty of veg, with some berries and occasional bananas. Too much wine - not paleo, I know. Total calories around 2000. I feel I must be doing (eating) something wrong - or not eating something I should.

Any advice from those of you further along the track than I am would be greatly appreciated.

0242b468fe1c97997749db416c92e7ed

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on March 03, 2011
at 07:47 PM

Laminaria digitata = kelp, right?

D15d6820ef1545edac65e975cc2d8949

on February 02, 2011
at 10:42 PM

gamma-linoleic acid, it's what comes after linoleic acid. You can get it from primrose oil! Also, someone w/ PMS supposedly have a d6-desaturase deficency.

50637dfd7dc7a7e811d82283f4f5fd10

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on January 31, 2011
at 10:13 PM

@Mikael, what is GLA?

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on January 31, 2011
at 06:37 PM

I eat 2g of Laminaria digitata per day, which is the most dense source of natural iodine that I could find. They sell it at seaveg.com.

5de2fffda92c0bf2be7ede10cad55546

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on September 22, 2010
at 08:59 AM

I also use it on my scalp in stead of poo. Hair is lovely and soft.

0fb8b3d6dcfb279b0f7e050d2d22510f

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on May 18, 2010
at 05:33 PM

great idea- mine is in the sink soaking in hot water- nothing beats coconut oil

0242b468fe1c97997749db416c92e7ed

(4528)

on May 18, 2010
at 01:38 PM

I'll second this suggestion. Coconut oil is my favorite moisturizer! I keep a jar on the floor in the shower - by the time I'm done, the CO has melted enough to use.

0242b468fe1c97997749db416c92e7ed

(4528)

on May 18, 2010
at 01:36 PM

Where do you buy your kelp granules? Sounds like a great addition to a stir fry!

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on May 18, 2010
at 07:17 AM

I've been 145 or so mostly but gained over the last few years, reaching 160 or so but it went straight back to 145 when I cut out grains and dairy. I'll try to be more observant re gluten - and also cut back on wine. Probably bed for gut flora??!

4e184df9c1ed38f61febc5d6cf031921

(5005)

on May 15, 2010
at 11:46 AM

Many thanks for this very informative and helpful post. I am supplementing omega 3 a trying to avoid omega 6, but I shall increase the fish oil supplements. Also will toke probiotics and cut down the alcohol!

Bee1be034ef8da3e1e5cf9587b8bb690

(588)

on May 14, 2010
at 07:21 PM

I have had this issue too. Don't forget to get magnesium either and probiotics. I ended up with some "inactive" gallstones and I think it was due to such a big change in my diet. I wish I'd done more for my gut flora early on. Magnesium also is a necessity for setting up good gut action (and helps against gallstone formation). When you get your gut acting correctly it will handle the fats in your diet much more effectively.

Bee1be034ef8da3e1e5cf9587b8bb690

(588)

on May 14, 2010
at 07:18 PM

Instead of salt, I often use kelp granules for seasoning. Lots of iodine and it tastes good.

E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

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on May 14, 2010
at 06:36 PM

Agreed, 1.2-1.7g/kg (if active) sounds about right. http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/1/1/2

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on May 14, 2010
at 05:37 PM

Marvellous answer! And I think you have hit the nail on the head - I ate fish most days, until about 6 weeks ago since when I've had very little. So - more fish! Thanks.

4e184df9c1ed38f61febc5d6cf031921

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on May 14, 2010
at 05:36 PM

I weigh about 145 pounds - according to my scales, which may not be spot on. 6 feet tall, and in my 50's. So - more protein needed. I'll up the intake!

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

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on May 14, 2010
at 04:06 PM

The Japanese also like their soy beans and rice, maybe we should copy that too. Its up to you what you want to take, just be aware that it is not without risk http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pubmed&cmd=link&linkname=pubmed_pubmed_reviews&uid=11396709

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on May 14, 2010
at 04:05 PM

The Japanese also like their soy beans and rice, maybe we should copy that too. Its up to you whay you want to take, just be aware that it is not without risk http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pubmed&cmd=link&linkname=pubmed_pubmed_reviews&uid=11396709

0242b468fe1c97997749db416c92e7ed

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on May 14, 2010
at 03:41 PM

One vertical drop contains about 6.25 mg of iodine. Three drops add up to about 18.75 mg, which is consistent with the average that folks take in Japan. People living in some coastal regions regularly consume as much as 50-80 mg of iodine daily.

0242b468fe1c97997749db416c92e7ed

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on May 14, 2010
at 03:40 PM

One vertical drop contains about 6.25 mg of iodine. Three drops adds up to about 18.75 mg, which is consistent with the average that folks take in Japan. People living in some coastal regions regularly consume as much as 50-80 mg of iodine daily.

0242b468fe1c97997749db416c92e7ed

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on May 14, 2010
at 03:31 PM

One vertical drop has 6.25 mg of iodine. Three drops adds up to about 18.75 mg, which is consistent with the upper range that folks take in Japan.

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on May 14, 2010
at 03:22 PM

One drop of Lugol's iodine would have 6-12mg of iodine. I wouldn't recommend taking such massive doses of iodine everyday. If you are decifcient in iodine taking doses that high can cause hyperthyroidism.

A89f9751a97c3082802dc0bcbe4e9208

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on May 14, 2010
at 02:59 PM

Awesome answer Kim!! :D

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on May 14, 2010
at 02:58 PM

I think that protein amount is the recommendation for mass gain. Fat loss recommendation amounts are 1g per 1kg. Mainline should be somewhere in the middle, right?

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0242b468fe1c97997749db416c92e7ed

(4528)

on May 14, 2010
at 02:18 PM

I noticed drier skin after about a year of paleo too.

I did a bit of research, and learned some interesting information about iodine. Apparently, one potential downside of cleaning up your diet and ditching processed foods, is that you get a lot less iodine in your diet. The theory is that by eliminating processed food high in sodium (and iodized salt, since 70% of industrial salt is iodized) your body's iodine - the substrate for thyroid hormone - is depleted over time. Lower thyroid function (due to inadequate iodine) can cause dry skin, cold extremities, low energy, and a whole host of other symptoms (Google hypothyroid symptoms).

I've never restricted salt usage, but in addition to giving up packaged, processed foods, I switched from regular processed iodized table salt to a minimally processed sea salt awhile back. Obviously, it would not be artificially iodized. Another factor, is the increased consumption of goitrogenic foods (which block iodine uptake) like cabbage, Brussels sprouts, kale, broccoli and cauliflower - even strawberries and peanuts contain goitrogens. Speaking for myself, I KNOW I eat a ton more of those foods than I used to - especially cabbage and cauliflower. Chlorinated, fluoridated tap water doesn't help either - both chemicals block iodine uptake.

Dr. Weston Price wrote in his book that the people who lived in the mountains (I think it was the Peruvian Indians) would go to great lengths to trade for dried fish eggs. When he asked them why they consumed the dried fish eggs, they said they didn???t want to get ???big necks like the Americans??? (goiter). So... if you're not eating fish and seaweed everyday, you might want to consider iodine supplementation. About a month ago, I started taking several drops of Lugol's 5% Iodine Solution in my coffee each morning. My skin is noticeably softer, I don't get chapped lips anymore, and my hands and feet seem warmer.

Dr. Davis talks about this stuff in his blog too: http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2009/08/iodine-deficiency-is-real.html

Richard Nikoley blogged about iodine as the "Hidden Benefit of the SAD" here - http://freetheanimal.com/2010/01/the-hidden-benefit-of-the-sad-iodine.html

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19235)

on May 14, 2010
at 04:06 PM

The Japanese also like their soy beans and rice, maybe we should copy that too. Its up to you what you want to take, just be aware that it is not without risk http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pubmed&cmd=link&linkname=pubmed_pubmed_reviews&uid=11396709

A89f9751a97c3082802dc0bcbe4e9208

(13978)

on May 14, 2010
at 02:59 PM

Awesome answer Kim!! :D

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19235)

on May 14, 2010
at 04:05 PM

The Japanese also like their soy beans and rice, maybe we should copy that too. Its up to you whay you want to take, just be aware that it is not without risk http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pubmed&cmd=link&linkname=pubmed_pubmed_reviews&uid=11396709

Bee1be034ef8da3e1e5cf9587b8bb690

(588)

on May 14, 2010
at 07:18 PM

Instead of salt, I often use kelp granules for seasoning. Lots of iodine and it tastes good.

4e184df9c1ed38f61febc5d6cf031921

(5005)

on May 14, 2010
at 05:37 PM

Marvellous answer! And I think you have hit the nail on the head - I ate fish most days, until about 6 weeks ago since when I've had very little. So - more fish! Thanks.

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19235)

on May 14, 2010
at 03:22 PM

One drop of Lugol's iodine would have 6-12mg of iodine. I wouldn't recommend taking such massive doses of iodine everyday. If you are decifcient in iodine taking doses that high can cause hyperthyroidism.

0242b468fe1c97997749db416c92e7ed

(4528)

on May 14, 2010
at 03:40 PM

One vertical drop contains about 6.25 mg of iodine. Three drops adds up to about 18.75 mg, which is consistent with the average that folks take in Japan. People living in some coastal regions regularly consume as much as 50-80 mg of iodine daily.

0242b468fe1c97997749db416c92e7ed

(4528)

on May 14, 2010
at 03:31 PM

One vertical drop has 6.25 mg of iodine. Three drops adds up to about 18.75 mg, which is consistent with the upper range that folks take in Japan.

0242b468fe1c97997749db416c92e7ed

(4528)

on May 18, 2010
at 01:36 PM

Where do you buy your kelp granules? Sounds like a great addition to a stir fry!

0242b468fe1c97997749db416c92e7ed

(4528)

on May 14, 2010
at 03:41 PM

One vertical drop contains about 6.25 mg of iodine. Three drops add up to about 18.75 mg, which is consistent with the average that folks take in Japan. People living in some coastal regions regularly consume as much as 50-80 mg of iodine daily.

Medium avatar

(39831)

on January 31, 2011
at 06:37 PM

I eat 2g of Laminaria digitata per day, which is the most dense source of natural iodine that I could find. They sell it at seaveg.com.

0242b468fe1c97997749db416c92e7ed

(4528)

on March 03, 2011
at 07:47 PM

Laminaria digitata = kelp, right?

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0fb8b3d6dcfb279b0f7e050d2d22510f

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on May 18, 2010
at 01:23 AM

For dry skin I use coconut oil. It seems oily but is absorbed by the skin in a short time. My skin has never looked healthier. I was coconut oil for many things- #1- cooking oil, eat as my breakfast fat by the spoon when I'm on the run.

0242b468fe1c97997749db416c92e7ed

(4528)

on May 18, 2010
at 01:38 PM

I'll second this suggestion. Coconut oil is my favorite moisturizer! I keep a jar on the floor in the shower - by the time I'm done, the CO has melted enough to use.

0fb8b3d6dcfb279b0f7e050d2d22510f

(4645)

on May 18, 2010
at 05:33 PM

great idea- mine is in the sink soaking in hot water- nothing beats coconut oil

5de2fffda92c0bf2be7ede10cad55546

(1781)

on September 22, 2010
at 08:59 AM

I also use it on my scalp in stead of poo. Hair is lovely and soft.

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574d4a70c36c10fe116c06ce86d76bd3

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on May 15, 2010
at 11:18 AM

Hi there Andrew,

Dry skin could be sign of omega 3 and omega 6 imbalance. Our paleolithic ancestors most likely had a diet which provided omega3:omega 6 to a 1:1 ratio. Unfortunately with todays composition of our foods, ie the quality of our meats etc it is practically impossible to reach this ratio even for the most strict paleo-follower. Basically the only good source of omega 3 today is blue fish (mackerell, sardines, tuna fish etc). You would have to eat this fish almost everyday to get the right ratio of omega 3 and omega 6. Sdaly though, even if you would do that, you would proabbly get to much heavy etals in your self (especially from the big fish tuna). SO to supplement with omega 3 daily is almost a must. There are no recommended levels to take, but suggestions are to take 1,5g (1500mg) of DHA and EPA per day.

With regards to your diarrhea: DIarrhea often comes from an imbalance in gut flora. Historically, we got billions and billions of good bacteria through our natural and organic food. Today however, with the use of pesticides and insecticides we do not only kill off the bad one, but also the good bacterias. Alcohol and antiiotics have also been shown to create an imbalance. So my advise there is to get as much organic whole foods as possible, cut down on the wine and supplement witha high quality probiotic bacteria supplement A good one is a mix of plenty different ones.

So in conclusion, supplement with omega 3 and probiotics, cut down on the wine and get as much organic fruit veg and game meat as possible.

Hope this helps,

Kind Regards Per Chiropractor

4e184df9c1ed38f61febc5d6cf031921

(5005)

on May 15, 2010
at 11:46 AM

Many thanks for this very informative and helpful post. I am supplementing omega 3 a trying to avoid omega 6, but I shall increase the fish oil supplements. Also will toke probiotics and cut down the alcohol!

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D15d6820ef1545edac65e975cc2d8949

on January 31, 2011
at 05:46 PM

Supplementing with GLA helps for ailing eczema, so it might be worth checking out if you're on a holy crusade to minimize your o6 intake.

50637dfd7dc7a7e811d82283f4f5fd10

(5838)

on January 31, 2011
at 10:13 PM

@Mikael, what is GLA?

D15d6820ef1545edac65e975cc2d8949

on February 02, 2011
at 10:42 PM

gamma-linoleic acid, it's what comes after linoleic acid. You can get it from primrose oil! Also, someone w/ PMS supposedly have a d6-desaturase deficency.

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13c5a9f1678d75b93f269cdcf69f14d5

(2339)

on May 18, 2010
at 12:22 AM

Have you always been 145 at 6 feet as an adult? Are you then only Paleo eater in your kitchen?

The Diarhea and the dry skin are possibly caused by trace gluten. Many people report improvements in their asthma when they go GF. The Paleo diet does not contain gluten, but if you have a gluten sensitivty you may need to be more careful - check your suppplements, possibly replace cutting boards, have the grill cleaned before your meal is cooked at restaurants. People also report becoming more sensitive over time.

asthma/gluten http://tinyurl.com/38svu5v

4e184df9c1ed38f61febc5d6cf031921

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on May 18, 2010
at 07:17 AM

I've been 145 or so mostly but gained over the last few years, reaching 160 or so but it went straight back to 145 when I cut out grains and dairy. I'll try to be more observant re gluten - and also cut back on wine. Probably bed for gut flora??!

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1ec4e7ca085b7f8d5821529653e1e35a

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on May 14, 2010
at 02:41 PM

On a side note to the dry skin, eating excess fats in your diet can make your stool soft. I have seen this from experience. Do you only weight 110lbs? You might want to increase protein consumption to 1g per 1lb of bodyweight.

E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

(15613)

on May 14, 2010
at 06:36 PM

Agreed, 1.2-1.7g/kg (if active) sounds about right. http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/1/1/2

4e184df9c1ed38f61febc5d6cf031921

(5005)

on May 14, 2010
at 05:36 PM

I weigh about 145 pounds - according to my scales, which may not be spot on. 6 feet tall, and in my 50's. So - more protein needed. I'll up the intake!

A89f9751a97c3082802dc0bcbe4e9208

(13978)

on May 14, 2010
at 02:58 PM

I think that protein amount is the recommendation for mass gain. Fat loss recommendation amounts are 1g per 1kg. Mainline should be somewhere in the middle, right?

Bee1be034ef8da3e1e5cf9587b8bb690

(588)

on May 14, 2010
at 07:21 PM

I have had this issue too. Don't forget to get magnesium either and probiotics. I ended up with some "inactive" gallstones and I think it was due to such a big change in my diet. I wish I'd done more for my gut flora early on. Magnesium also is a necessity for setting up good gut action (and helps against gallstone formation). When you get your gut acting correctly it will handle the fats in your diet much more effectively.

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