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Macronutrient Confusion! Protein > Fat?

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Created August 02, 2012 at 2:39 PM

Yesterday I had my follow up hydrostatic body fat test, "weighing" in at 29.5%, which is still 'POOR' for my ranking. The lady insisted and insisted on up'ing protein as almost all of what I eat. I mentioned being paleo to her, but she didn't seem to care for it.

I may be late on this, but what's the deal w going primarily protein? I had heard that it was bad, but this lady says it's essential to fat loss.

I'd appreciate a little bit of insight : )

5'4.5" 129 lbs 24 y/o F

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on August 03, 2012
at 01:54 AM

I have a pretty fatty belly, sticks out about 1.5" But yes, it's true, 129lbs and 29.5% Sounds crazy, right? Because if I am correct, I'd still be losing some land weight in losing fat, so since my goal is to be around 20% BF, the sheet the lady gave me says I'd be around 114lbs, which sounds silly when you think of my height.

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on August 02, 2012
at 10:57 PM

I have a hard time understanding how you could be 29.5% fat when you only weigh 129. That means you have 38 pounds of fat. And a lean mass around 90 pounds. That is tiny! What BF % are you shooting for?

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on August 02, 2012
at 09:12 PM

Awesome, I do muay thai too! I'd love to know where you train at... I'm a dork for that kind of stuff. We do muay thai the day after we do our weight training... definitely don't want muay thai affecting your weightlifting. So we are set on a schedule of weightlifting day, muay thai day, rest day, Weights, muay thai, rest, rest. That's 4x a week excercising... but that's because we aren't as addicted to muay thai as before. In the beginning you want to go everyday lol. You could squeeze in the extra muay thai day after the last weightlifting day though... that'd be an awesome schedule.

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on August 02, 2012
at 08:34 PM

Muay thai ... at first when I was new to paleo I was going 2-3 times week and lost weight, but you know, that was as opposed to not exercising at ALL, lol. Now the fat loss seems to be stagnant, so thats why I introduced kettlebells into my life. You're right, I should look into twice a week KB and .. maybe 2-3 times/week muay thai?

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on August 02, 2012
at 05:34 PM

What martial arts do you do? I would definitely increase your strength training weight/intensity/days per week... once a week for sure isn't going to do much. At least do it twice a week and then martial arts twice a week or three times, whatever you do. And don't use those small dumbbells... do everything to your fullest intensity to 8-10 reps per set. Just do it to your heaviest and give it all your mostest and you can't go wrong. :)

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on August 02, 2012
at 05:17 PM

Makes sense, I could probably go harder in my workouts - although most of the time I am focusing on performance rather than endurance (martial arts). I actually JUST added strength training, so I'm hoping that it will make a difference. I'm also considering bumping it up to 5/days week

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on August 02, 2012
at 04:19 PM

IMO, you possibly aren't working out hard enough, properly, or your workouts are going unearned. You have such little muscle mass that I'd actually be worried about you if you were truly working out hard three times a week! Your best option to lower your body fat is not through lowering your weight... just through building muscle mass which will truly replace your body fat. 129 is a perfect weight for your height. You just need to adjust your composition. Protein intake is never more important than the exercise!!

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on August 02, 2012
at 04:15 PM

Thanks, JB! You make a great point, fat will probably come along w the protein, anyway.

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on August 02, 2012
at 04:14 PM

I do ( : 3 time/week, strength training once/week, she also insisted that protein intake was slightly more important than the exercise?

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on August 02, 2012
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I get meat in more than anything else, fat probably a big portion of it. I was under the impression that my carbs (veggies) needed to be higher, but now I'm kind of confused. She just kind of shrugged it like, "Oh, okay, yeah, you need more protein still."

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on August 02, 2012
at 02:43 PM

What's your current intake look like? Protein is the most satiating of the macronutrients, but weight loss is a factor of energy balance, not arbitrary macronutrient values. On a side note, if the woman was unwilling to even listen to your current dietary patterns and comment, perhaps another practitioner would be better.

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on August 02, 2012
at 04:13 PM

I get meat in more than anything else, fat probably a big portion of it. I was under the impression that my carbs (veggies) needed to be higher, but now I'm kind of confused. She just kind of shrugged it like, "Oh, okay, yeah, you need more protein still."

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on August 02, 2012
at 03:18 PM

Why don't you just try working out? You are taller than me, weigh less than me, but you have a lot more body fat than me. Workout! Lift weights!

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on August 02, 2012
at 04:14 PM

I do ( : 3 time/week, strength training once/week, she also insisted that protein intake was slightly more important than the exercise?

E15c5c2d17c4a5d723ce7bb4437062e6

(789)

on August 02, 2012
at 05:17 PM

Makes sense, I could probably go harder in my workouts - although most of the time I am focusing on performance rather than endurance (martial arts). I actually JUST added strength training, so I'm hoping that it will make a difference. I'm also considering bumping it up to 5/days week

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on August 02, 2012
at 04:19 PM

IMO, you possibly aren't working out hard enough, properly, or your workouts are going unearned. You have such little muscle mass that I'd actually be worried about you if you were truly working out hard three times a week! Your best option to lower your body fat is not through lowering your weight... just through building muscle mass which will truly replace your body fat. 129 is a perfect weight for your height. You just need to adjust your composition. Protein intake is never more important than the exercise!!

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on August 02, 2012
at 09:12 PM

Awesome, I do muay thai too! I'd love to know where you train at... I'm a dork for that kind of stuff. We do muay thai the day after we do our weight training... definitely don't want muay thai affecting your weightlifting. So we are set on a schedule of weightlifting day, muay thai day, rest day, Weights, muay thai, rest, rest. That's 4x a week excercising... but that's because we aren't as addicted to muay thai as before. In the beginning you want to go everyday lol. You could squeeze in the extra muay thai day after the last weightlifting day though... that'd be an awesome schedule.

F5be4be097edc85690c12d67ee1a27c0

(1884)

on August 02, 2012
at 05:34 PM

What martial arts do you do? I would definitely increase your strength training weight/intensity/days per week... once a week for sure isn't going to do much. At least do it twice a week and then martial arts twice a week or three times, whatever you do. And don't use those small dumbbells... do everything to your fullest intensity to 8-10 reps per set. Just do it to your heaviest and give it all your mostest and you can't go wrong. :)

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on August 02, 2012
at 08:34 PM

Muay thai ... at first when I was new to paleo I was going 2-3 times week and lost weight, but you know, that was as opposed to not exercising at ALL, lol. Now the fat loss seems to be stagnant, so thats why I introduced kettlebells into my life. You're right, I should look into twice a week KB and .. maybe 2-3 times/week muay thai?

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on August 02, 2012
at 03:12 PM

It seems to me you would want to burn your body fat to reduce your body fat percent and lose weight overall. It doesn't sound like you have far to go if that's what you are interested in. I don't think that eating only lean meats would be the way I would go though. You could reduce your fat intake to only quality, choice fats and be careful about timing in order to encourage your body to burn it's own stores as well (IF). For example, sardines and coconut oil for breakfast with a little carb and then you could IF all day until dinner. Then you've ensured you're giving your body the nutrients and building blocks it needs and I don't see how you could not be burning body fat by mid-afternoon.

Just an idea.

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on August 02, 2012
at 02:51 PM

Paleono,

There's nothing inherently wrong with going high protein, kidney disease scare-mongers aside. But I would say that fat is the most satiating macro. I eat about 60-65% of my calories from fat and it works for me.

Even if you went "high protein", you'll still get quite a bit of fat, unless you're only eating skinless chicken breasts, but how long can you really do that.

Try upping your protein without worrying about it being lean protein. Just eat what tastes good and enjoy being Paleo

http://www.jbprimal.com

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on August 02, 2012
at 04:15 PM

Thanks, JB! You make a great point, fat will probably come along w the protein, anyway.

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