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Higher protien to fat ratio and Acid Reflux

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created May 26, 2011 at 4:09 AM

Hi

I've been doing pale for 2 months and recently removed heavy cream from my diet due to a weight loss stall. I'm not eating any other forms of dairy except for the occasional pastured butter. As a consequence my relatively high fat intake has been reduced to about equal that of my protein, leaving me with 10% carbs and roughly 45% of fat and protein. Since doing this I have developed acid reflux for the first time in my life. The only thing that I am doing different is the fat ratio, and I have been doing well on paleo in all other aspects. Is this heartburn due to the reduction in fats relative to protein? Do high protein diets in general lead to stomach issues?

Thanks :-)

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

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on May 31, 2011
at 07:48 PM

Dexter, the thrust of my comments was to chip away at your assetion that that all GERD is caused by low stomach acid. In fact, there is very little evidence that I am aware of that low stomach acid cause GERD at all. It can for me though -- after a very high protein/fat, my digestion is improved by betain HCL Most of my GERD however is not improved by betain HCL. I have learned to tell the distinguish between ery subtle differences in my own GERD.

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

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on May 31, 2011
at 07:47 PM

Dexter, the thrust of my comments was to ship away at your assetion that that all GERD is caused by low stomach acid. In fact, there is very little evidence that I am aware of that low stomach acid cause GERD at all. It can for me though -- after a very high protein/fat, my digestion is improved by betain HCL Most of my GERD however is not improved by betain HCL. I have learned to tell the distinguish between ery subtle differences in my own GERD.

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on May 28, 2011
at 02:34 AM

UPDATE: I don't know if the whole low stomach acid thing is correct or not and am not arguing one way or the other, but after reading the articles posted below I decided to try eating some acidic things and see if that helped. I drank 1/4 cup raw apple cider vinegar and took 3 vitamin c supplements. I then ate about 1/2 cup of probiotic raw sauerkraut. I felt the same for the first few hours, but then ate a nice fatty dinner. I experienced no heartburn last night. I ate fats equaling 70% of my total intake today and have felt fine.I hope it was just the high protein intake and that i'm ok now

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on May 26, 2011
at 07:23 PM

Jay, point me to information that can set me straight that Gerd can be caused by low stomach acid.

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on May 26, 2011
at 05:38 PM

No reason to downvote this answer, so I'm upvoting it. These links not only help you to understand the many causes of GERD, but also a couple different ways to fix it.

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

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on May 26, 2011
at 05:28 PM

This is too simplistic. Reflux CAN be caused by low stomach acid but it NOT always caused by it. Even in a single person, low stomach acid may cause some reflux but not all reflux.

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on May 26, 2011
at 03:54 PM

45% fat seems kind of low for someone trying to lose weight. and 45% protein seems kind of high. im far from an expert, just someone trying to lose weight on paleo for the past seven months or so, and i dont know much about heartburn having never experienced it, but maybe consider bumping the fat up to 60-70% and dropping some of the protein. maybe it will help with the plateau and the GERD?

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on May 26, 2011
at 04:41 AM

And more. Stopit, silly.

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on May 26, 2011
at 04:41 AM

And more. Stoppit, silly.

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50637dfd7dc7a7e811d82283f4f5fd10

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on May 26, 2011
at 04:24 AM

I too have recently developed acid reflux.

Richard Nikoley has a great write up on it here: link text

As does Chris Kresser here: link text

I found both incredibly helpful. Best of luck :)

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on January 10, 2013
at 01:39 AM

For what it's worth, as a lifelong heartburn sufferer, I find it very hard to believe that my esophagus is burning like mad because of not enough acid.

Bullshit.

Baking soda fixes it pronto. Here's a tip: after you take it, dance around a bit and see what happens. All that belching it definitely NOT caused by buffering excess stomach acid.

On the upside, I pretty much know now what causes heartburn for me, at least in general. Overeating. People say grains, fat, this or that but the fact is, if I eat like an Asian, I don't get heartburn no matter what I eat. I can even eat a slice or two of pizza, no prob. But the normal 5-6 slices? Nuclear.

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06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

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on May 26, 2011
at 04:40 AM

You follow Todd's links to Richard and Chris and your gerd will be gone.

Basically, your problem is not enough digestive acids in your gut...which is exactly opposite of what the TV ads for Nexium, Prolosec want you to believe. Those acid soppers will just exerbate the problem.

Haven't had gerd in years since getting my gut flora fixed.

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

(9948)

on May 26, 2011
at 07:23 PM

Jay, point me to information that can set me straight that Gerd can be caused by low stomach acid.

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

(4359)

on May 26, 2011
at 05:28 PM

This is too simplistic. Reflux CAN be caused by low stomach acid but it NOT always caused by it. Even in a single person, low stomach acid may cause some reflux but not all reflux.

50637dfd7dc7a7e811d82283f4f5fd10

(5838)

on May 26, 2011
at 05:38 PM

No reason to downvote this answer, so I'm upvoting it. These links not only help you to understand the many causes of GERD, but also a couple different ways to fix it.

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

(4359)

on May 31, 2011
at 07:47 PM

Dexter, the thrust of my comments was to ship away at your assetion that that all GERD is caused by low stomach acid. In fact, there is very little evidence that I am aware of that low stomach acid cause GERD at all. It can for me though -- after a very high protein/fat, my digestion is improved by betain HCL Most of my GERD however is not improved by betain HCL. I have learned to tell the distinguish between ery subtle differences in my own GERD.

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

(4359)

on May 31, 2011
at 07:48 PM

Dexter, the thrust of my comments was to chip away at your assetion that that all GERD is caused by low stomach acid. In fact, there is very little evidence that I am aware of that low stomach acid cause GERD at all. It can for me though -- after a very high protein/fat, my digestion is improved by betain HCL Most of my GERD however is not improved by betain HCL. I have learned to tell the distinguish between ery subtle differences in my own GERD.

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