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Probiotics and gas

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created February 03, 2013 at 12:07 AM

Hey all, I've been paleo over a year now, no grains, legumes, dairy, the only sugar is a little fruit like bananas or yams no more than once a day, many times skipping a day. I eat either raw spinach or cooked collard greens once a day too.

I made my own homemade sauerkraut a while back and LOVE it. I also discovered a yogurt made from coconut milk in my local grocery store. I get the plain kind and add a little fruit preserves - less than a tablespoon. I also sometimes drink kevita and kumbacha but haven't the past 10 days.

I noticed in the past two weeks that the sauerkraut and the yogurt are giving me really bad egg-smelling gas. I stopped eating most FODMAPS like onions and artichokes, broccoli and brussel sprouts, because I realized they bloated me. But I want to know why I'm suddenly getting gas from the yogurt and kraut. I didn't notice this trend when I first started eating them 2 months ago.

Any ideas on this?? I thought the gas was produced when the toxins were being expelled. I feel like after 2 months they should be all gone already. Could I be building an intolerance?

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on February 04, 2013
at 04:18 AM

My symptoms were fatigue and food intolerances (plus I have developed gastritis).

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on February 03, 2013
at 10:39 PM

He makes an interesting point - I never get gas from a high protein or fat meal, but I'm not convinced that I get gas after eating ANY carbs. I will have to play around with this. I am currently doing an ultra-low-carb experiment, with a carb refeed on Friday, so that should be a good indicator if it's any carbs or just particular ones like FODMAPs.

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on February 03, 2013
at 01:06 AM

Awesome I will consider attempting to make my own yogurt. Until then I will try a plain greek yogurt to see how that helps. Thanks for the help!

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on February 03, 2013
at 12:49 AM

if you make your own yogurt, you can ferment the lactose out of it.

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on February 03, 2013
at 12:48 AM

You sound like you're in the same boat as me: I'm very lactose intolerant and I get about 2 broccoli florets before I start having issues. Solidarity! :-) Guar gum contains galactomannan, which is a galactan and falls into the FODMAPs family. It should be *somewhat* easy to avoid, as it's really only in processed food. If you find that bifidus helps, you may want to take it in supplement form instead.

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on February 03, 2013
at 12:35 AM

Yes it has guar gum. That is very unfortunate because it has bifidus which Chris Kresser recommends for my particular problems, but I have not tried real dairy yogurt because I'm lactose intolerant.

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on February 03, 2013
at 12:33 AM

or make your own coconut milk yogurt.

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Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

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on February 03, 2013
at 12:20 AM

Both coconut milk yogurt (coconut milk usually contains guar gum, the yogurt types almost certainly do, and coconut itself may cause some people distress) and sauerkraut (cabbage, contains raffinose) are potent FODMAP foods. Fermenting foods such as these may not help as much as you think it does.

Those with FODMAPs issues need to be very careful with things like sauerkraut. Suggestion: eat less, or none.

My guess for the coconut yogurt is the guar gum is added to maintain texture and homogeneity. Suggestion: stick to whole coconut or real dairy yogurt (if you can handle lactose).

089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

(5635)

on February 03, 2013
at 12:49 AM

if you make your own yogurt, you can ferment the lactose out of it.

B4e1fa6a8cf43d2b69d97a99dfca262c

(10255)

on February 03, 2013
at 12:33 AM

or make your own coconut milk yogurt.

D05f3050dc3d973b8b81a876202fa99a

(1533)

on February 03, 2013
at 01:06 AM

Awesome I will consider attempting to make my own yogurt. Until then I will try a plain greek yogurt to see how that helps. Thanks for the help!

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on February 03, 2013
at 12:48 AM

You sound like you're in the same boat as me: I'm very lactose intolerant and I get about 2 broccoli florets before I start having issues. Solidarity! :-) Guar gum contains galactomannan, which is a galactan and falls into the FODMAPs family. It should be *somewhat* easy to avoid, as it's really only in processed food. If you find that bifidus helps, you may want to take it in supplement form instead.

D05f3050dc3d973b8b81a876202fa99a

(1533)

on February 03, 2013
at 12:35 AM

Yes it has guar gum. That is very unfortunate because it has bifidus which Chris Kresser recommends for my particular problems, but I have not tried real dairy yogurt because I'm lactose intolerant.

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F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on February 03, 2013
at 12:23 PM

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on February 04, 2013
at 04:18 AM

My symptoms were fatigue and food intolerances (plus I have developed gastritis).

D05f3050dc3d973b8b81a876202fa99a

(1533)

on February 03, 2013
at 10:39 PM

He makes an interesting point - I never get gas from a high protein or fat meal, but I'm not convinced that I get gas after eating ANY carbs. I will have to play around with this. I am currently doing an ultra-low-carb experiment, with a carb refeed on Friday, so that should be a good indicator if it's any carbs or just particular ones like FODMAPs.

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