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Could you recommend some probiotic supplement that has made a huge difference for you personally?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created April 16, 2013 at 7:17 AM

I am looking into probiotic supplements and there are so many on the market, it is very confusing. Most sites recommend iflora. Ultimate flora is better, but it requires refrigeration.

Could you please recommend a probiotic supplement based on the following criteria:

  1. Does not need refrigeration

  2. You have been taking it and it works or at least it has made a difference in your digestion especially if you had IBS / SIBO / digestive problems.

  3. There are very few or none added ingredients (such as rice flour, etc.)

I know fermented foods are the best source of probiotic cultures, and I am taking sauerkraut juice at the moment but I would like to consider a professional strength probiotic supplement as well.

I don't want to spend money on something that is not going to work. Here are some of the suggestions I gathered from my friends and various websites:

  1. 15-35
  2. Dr. Mercola's
  3. Garden of Life Primal Defense Ultra
  4. L. Sporogenes
  5. Bio-kult
  6. I flora
  7. Gut pro

Please let me know about your experience.

Thank you.

C6648ab69e5a1560c7585fe3ba7108fb

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on May 31, 2013
at 05:10 PM

For what it's worth, kefir doesn't need to be refrigerated. It will last between 2 weeks and a month at room temp (probably less at higher temperatures), but for reference, I go through a 1qt mason jar of kefir in about 2.5 days drinking a glass or two a day, so it's not that hard to keep a steady stream going that never goes bad (I'm now at the point where I'm having trouble making enough, but that's because I'm attempting to use the kefir in a lactose-free version of GOMAD).

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on April 17, 2013
at 02:05 PM

Also I think its probiotics are kind of a trial and error thing, I see a lot of folks praising water kefir and kombucha, which have never sat write with me and generally felt inflammatory and yeast promoting. There are also other brands of probiotics that have had no effect on me what so ever, such as Jarrow brand. So its definitely something that takes some experimentation to find what works.

2006ccb2b60f9cc5ba5e8eff8a7abc46

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on April 17, 2013
at 02:03 PM

Interesting, Ive never noticed any issues and have been using it on and off for a few years. I have also been wheat free for 6 years, so perhaps I am no longer sensitive to such minute amounts. I really would like to th ink this company has better ethics then to mislabel. The gentleman who started the company wrote a great book "Patient, Heal Thyself" and has been through the same shit most of us with allergies and autoimmune issues have dealt with.

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on April 17, 2013
at 01:26 AM

(And yes, to be clear: I mean contains gluten despite the packaging claiming that its gluten free)

4f61f7c4a8bb1adeb9cf45aa9e3f9e7d

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on April 17, 2013
at 01:25 AM

There's a lot discussion on Amazon's Primal Defence reviews page about it containing gluten, and I know someone who is gluten tollerant who had a negative reaction when taking it. I'd steer clear.

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on April 16, 2013
at 08:50 PM

I haven't done cream soda flavor with vanilla yet, but it is the next one I'm trying. Oh, VB start slowly with the stuff, just 1 tbsp. to start, then work your way up to cups of it. Only took about a week for me, but different guts are different.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on April 16, 2013
at 08:31 PM

I will try. Thanks for your suggestion! :)

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on April 16, 2013
at 08:29 PM

Times two! Have you tried it with Vanilla extract? DELICIOUS!

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on April 16, 2013
at 08:27 PM

You guys convinced me. I will try water kefir.

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on April 16, 2013
at 08:00 PM

What about turnip greens? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/05/leafy-greens-healthy-gut-cruciferous-vegetables-digestive-immune-system_n_2807158.html or kale or something. Can you handle them alright if you boil the heck out of them? It might seriously help...

Ca2c940a1947e6200883908592956680

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on April 16, 2013
at 08:46 AM

Yeah will do, will set a diary reminder for this question.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on April 16, 2013
at 08:17 AM

Once you take it for a month or two (Healthy Origins) could you come back and write a review? Thanks!

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on April 16, 2013
at 08:15 AM

Okay, I will try. I am a little scared because I just had a huge sugar binge.

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on April 16, 2013
at 07:56 AM

I use pasteurized goat milk without a problem. Kefir includes enzymes to break it down, you don't need raw. Besides, I also mentioned water kefir. The point is, these pills you mention are child's play compared to kefir. If you want to see change you go with homemade kefir.

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on April 16, 2013
at 07:47 AM

I know, I remember, but I have no access to raw goat milk. I have already tried. It is all pasteurized.

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F2cd77a6d2133ca3ae5b4353c4047577

on May 30, 2013
at 01:54 PM

Prescript Assist. Yes, it's expensive. It's worth it.

I've probably tried everything on here and I second kefir, although it needs to be refrigerated and that was a deal breaker per your criteria. Soil bacteria is the only thing in studies that tends to permanently diversify and balance flora. Art Ayers has talked a lot about this. I concede diversity is maximized by eating homegrown vegetables that haven't been washed, but what would this world be without convenience?

Its relevance to SIBO/IBS is well-studied (and Kresser likes it, if it makes a difference):

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16117982

C6648ab69e5a1560c7585fe3ba7108fb

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on May 31, 2013
at 05:10 PM

For what it's worth, kefir doesn't need to be refrigerated. It will last between 2 weeks and a month at room temp (probably less at higher temperatures), but for reference, I go through a 1qt mason jar of kefir in about 2.5 days drinking a glass or two a day, so it's not that hard to keep a steady stream going that never goes bad (I'm now at the point where I'm having trouble making enough, but that's because I'm attempting to use the kefir in a lactose-free version of GOMAD).

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on April 16, 2013
at 07:42 AM

Home made goat kefir. 5 trillion live organisms of 40+ species per cup, rather than 15 billion half-dead 5-10 species. It has to be home made though, and goat/sheep have a gentler casein. Not much lactose remains on 24 hour fermentation. If you cant tolerate dairy at all, go for water kefir.

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on April 16, 2013
at 07:56 AM

I use pasteurized goat milk without a problem. Kefir includes enzymes to break it down, you don't need raw. Besides, I also mentioned water kefir. The point is, these pills you mention are child's play compared to kefir. If you want to see change you go with homemade kefir.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 16, 2013
at 08:15 AM

Okay, I will try. I am a little scared because I just had a huge sugar binge.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 16, 2013
at 07:47 AM

I know, I remember, but I have no access to raw goat milk. I have already tried. It is all pasteurized.

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on April 16, 2013
at 09:56 AM

I have had the best and most noticeable change come from making and drinking my own home made kombucha in my continuous brewer. It has absolutely changed my life for the better.

Kombucha is by no means a miracle drink, but for me it allowed my body to naturally reset itself and begin to heal my stomach. All I know is before I had it, I was having severe abdominal pains and bloating after every meal, I was diagnosed with IBS and I had extreme fatigue after carbohydrates and starches. Since I have introduced it into my daily diet I have nearly eliminated all of these symptoms. I recommend investing in a continuous brewing system and making it at home over buying it because you can control the quality and quantity of ingredients added. You can have it plain or add as many natural flavourings as you'd like!

You can check out kombucha mama or get kombucha for more information and start up kits. You don't even need a start up kit -- you can make kombucha using a glass jar and a mother culture -- but I knew I was going to be drinking a lot of it so I ordered the start up kit from get kombucha and love it. You could even make your own system if you really wanted to using stuff from your local hardware store I'm sure!

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on April 16, 2013
at 08:26 PM

I'm gaga for water kefir right now. It is easy peasy, cheap (about $10 to get started, $3 for the grains +shipping and supplies), and just keeps on giving as the grains multiply. Within 3 days of starting it my belly was much less bloated, and my energy improved as well. I've been alternating batches grown in coconut water and with brown sugar/molasses (don't worry about the sugars they are food for the kefir grains, and only a small percentage will be in the finished product).

Before I had tried the water kefir I had really good results in the past with the Theramedix line of enzymes and probiotics. My naturopath hooked me up a really good probiotic called Pro-5 that fixed me up, and stopped a yeast infection right in its track after some intensive antibiotic usage. Thorne S. Boulardii has really helped my belly in the past too. I was pretty disappointed in Prescript Assist even though it has gotten rave revues from other people, it just didn't do anything noticeable for me.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on April 16, 2013
at 08:50 PM

I haven't done cream soda flavor with vanilla yet, but it is the next one I'm trying. Oh, VB start slowly with the stuff, just 1 tbsp. to start, then work your way up to cups of it. Only took about a week for me, but different guts are different.

Medium avatar

(4878)

on April 16, 2013
at 08:29 PM

Times two! Have you tried it with Vanilla extract? DELICIOUS!

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 16, 2013
at 08:27 PM

You guys convinced me. I will try water kefir.

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Ca2c940a1947e6200883908592956680

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on April 16, 2013
at 08:14 AM

I have a bottle of Healthy Origins: 30 Billion CFU Probiotic arriving this week. I did try the Optibac Probiotics: For Daily Wellbeing last year but appeared to have some stomach issues. Although I am not sure if it was the probiotics or a combination of other factors. I was taking a multivitamin at the time that also included probiotics which I only realised later.

I am totally convinced I need to start making and eating fermented vegetables since I recently had investigatory surgery and my stomach has not been the same since. I have been eating "ancestrally" for almost two years but have never done the fermentation thing, which is just stupid to be honest. Just need to schedule some time and get cracking with the chopping.

30.05 Update: Well they seem to be doing me good, I have not had any digestive issues for a while. I can't say for certain if the Healthy Origins have made that much difference. Also I have not had the difficulties I had with Optibac.

Ca2c940a1947e6200883908592956680

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on April 16, 2013
at 08:46 AM

Yeah will do, will set a diary reminder for this question.

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on April 16, 2013
at 08:17 AM

Once you take it for a month or two (Healthy Origins) could you come back and write a review? Thanks!

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on June 10, 2013
at 11:31 PM

I second the SBO probiotic Prescript Assist. It has made a difference with my allergy symptoms. I wrote a blog post about it also.

http://www.thebarefootgolfer.com/2013/03/22/soil-based-organisms-a-superior-probiotic/

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on May 31, 2013
at 01:31 PM

I am particular to Garden of Life RAW Probiotics, which is pretty much a kefir in pill form. The male formula contains 31 strains and 85 billion CFU. I honestly do think it's made a big difference in my GI health, and my health overall. There are several formulas (Men, Women, M&W 50+, Kids, etc) to choose from. It doesn't meet your refrigeration requirement, though. You may want to check out Enzymatic Therapy's Acidophilus pearls that don't require refrigeration, but I did not find that product to be as effective. I have read that one should be skeptical of any probiotic that isn't refrigerated.

Garden of Life introduces RAW Probiotics??????an innovation that goes Beyond Probiotics???whole food probiotic formulas providing 30+ powerful probiotic strains, along with probiotic-created cofactors including vitamins, minerals, enzymes, antioxidants and prebiotics. RAW means our probiotics are uncooked, untreated, unadulterated; with no binders or fillers.

Male: http://www.gardenoflife.com/Products-for-Life/RAW-Digestion/RAW-Probiotics-Men.aspx Female: http://www.gardenoflife.com/Products-for-Life/RAW-Digestion/RAW-Probiotics-Women.aspx Ultimate Care: http://www.gardenoflife.com/Products-for-Life/RAW-Digestion/RAW-Probiotics-Ultimate-Care.aspx

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2006ccb2b60f9cc5ba5e8eff8a7abc46

on April 16, 2013
at 07:53 PM

the best probiotic I have found is "garden of life" brand "primal defense". it comes in a small container in powder form, has quite a few strains of probiotics and a bit of powdered greens. no fillers, no capsules. its also relatively inexpensive because you get more doses per the powdered form then the capsulized form.

I had giardia a few years back, its was pretty bad and I suffered for about two weeks, I went to a store and bought the primal defense probiotic, dosed up about 10x the daily recommendation, and was quickly relieved the horrible diarrhea(sorry for TMI). I have used it off and on for years, but now that I have been pretty low carb I don't get intestinal issues and really have no use. I would highly recommend this product.

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on April 17, 2013
at 01:25 AM

There's a lot discussion on Amazon's Primal Defence reviews page about it containing gluten, and I know someone who is gluten tollerant who had a negative reaction when taking it. I'd steer clear.

2006ccb2b60f9cc5ba5e8eff8a7abc46

(1533)

on April 17, 2013
at 02:05 PM

Also I think its probiotics are kind of a trial and error thing, I see a lot of folks praising water kefir and kombucha, which have never sat write with me and generally felt inflammatory and yeast promoting. There are also other brands of probiotics that have had no effect on me what so ever, such as Jarrow brand. So its definitely something that takes some experimentation to find what works.

4f61f7c4a8bb1adeb9cf45aa9e3f9e7d

(281)

on April 17, 2013
at 01:26 AM

(And yes, to be clear: I mean contains gluten despite the packaging claiming that its gluten free)

2006ccb2b60f9cc5ba5e8eff8a7abc46

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on April 17, 2013
at 02:03 PM

Interesting, Ive never noticed any issues and have been using it on and off for a few years. I have also been wheat free for 6 years, so perhaps I am no longer sensitive to such minute amounts. I really would like to th ink this company has better ethics then to mislabel. The gentleman who started the company wrote a great book "Patient, Heal Thyself" and has been through the same shit most of us with allergies and autoimmune issues have dealt with.

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on April 16, 2013
at 08:17 AM

I guess this is not what you're looking after but won't hurt to add some alternatives that may come in handy or you wouldn't have considered either way.

I've been taking for some time Linwoods milled Flaxseed with Vitamin D and probiotics. Frankly I didn't checked how much probiotics are in this, just found it cool to have some milled flax for omega 3, vitamin D and probiotics on it so got sold on the idea. I enjoy it a lot on my yogurt with some berries.

It has been some time taking it from time to time and my digestion is pretty good right now but it also came with my drop on grains and other nutritional changes so I can really not relate it to this but at least I'm more or less certain that it's not harming.

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