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Constantly Bloated eating non FODMAP's and GAPS

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created March 29, 2012 at 8:07 AM

Hi everyone,

As the title suggests I have been bloated constantly for a while now and I have no idea what the problem is. I have been eating mostly non fodmaps and gaps approved foods. I have also been supplementing with l-glut, probiotics, multi vitamins, magnesium, vitamin D.

I also have several other symptoms like achy muscles from doing nothing, bags under eyes and more. I had a stomach ulcer 6 months ago and it has been like this on and off since then.

Here is an example of the last 3 days food, I was the same bloated, etc after each of these days... it didn't seem to make a difference:

Monday

breakfast: beef mince, sauerkraut and swede

tea: beef mince and swede

Tuesday

breakfast: sauerkraut, kipper, boiled eggs and sweet potatoes

tea: Cod fillets, sauerkraut, coconut oil and sweet potatoes

Wednesday

breakfast: Bone broth with swede, sauerkraut and carrots

tea: Bone broth with swede, sauerkraut and coconut oil

Thanks in advance

4856eae0511e116135bba0acc3e42ce5

(80)

on June 17, 2013
at 11:45 PM

sorry and coconut oil and cinnamon and zap in the blender my husband makes fun of me for eating this, it does look a lot like baby food, but it's a nice sweet on such a restricted diet.

0104d134c517031678cb90bb2919b5d3

(117)

on March 06, 2013
at 08:53 AM

Not yet! Recently did 30 days of water fasting, 7 of which I dry fasted. I noticed when dry fasting the massive bloat that had been around my stomach for the last year went away and my stomach was normal/flat again. However as soon as I drank water my stomach instantly bloated up again... it makes no sense. I have tried tons of other stuff over this last year if you're interested. Also what brought you're bloating on. I think mine was to do with ulcer/antibiotics.

E12ead3bf63c94b5b619b03722ef554f

on July 20, 2012
at 08:27 AM

I would seriously consider getting a DNA stool test done.

0104d134c517031678cb90bb2919b5d3

(117)

on July 20, 2012
at 07:07 AM

Thanks Jamie but I have already ditched all veg/carbs for weeks at a time. I bloat every time I consume anything! Maybe there are parasites that can cause this or some kinda of semi stomach obstruction?

0104d134c517031678cb90bb2919b5d3

(117)

on July 20, 2012
at 07:04 AM

Yeah I have done weeks on zero carb, just eating meats and fat, still bloat and tired. The digestive enzymes seemingly have no effect, I can take stupid amounts with no burning (18,000mg). I think my bloating is not caused by gas or the foods that I am eating (even water makes me bloat slightly)...

0104d134c517031678cb90bb2919b5d3

(117)

on July 20, 2012
at 07:01 AM

Will check out the histimine, thanks. Although I stopped sauerkraut ages ago. I really think my bloating is not caused by gas as it happens even with water and every other food.

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on July 18, 2012
at 08:01 AM

I have had a weeks worth of bloat and burp hell from introducing some starchy sweet potatoes, parsnips and cashews into my diet last week (which really should be low fodmap, low starch). Bad bad bad idea. Still recovering, and feeling crappy. I just skipped breakfast and had fish, eggs and shrimps for dinner. Hopefully I feel better tomorrow. Hope u get some recovery too. Try and be patient once u eliminate trouble foods. Good luck!

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on July 18, 2012
at 07:58 AM

You can always use a lactose free iron free multi if ur eliminating too much for too long.

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on July 18, 2012
at 07:57 AM

Agree with everyone else here, starch can be a big problem. Ditch the root veges. You could just use enzymes w/ no betaine, if you find u get ulcers etc. Also, take try using smaller amounts at first of the enzymes w/ meals (tip some out of the cap. A messed up stomach can be agrevated by to many protease enzymes. Cut out the starchy foods, keep very low fodmap for awhile. You may wish to take it easy on the fermented food and probiotics too. Probiotics are hit and miss, sometimes they make things worse (did with me so far).

0104d134c517031678cb90bb2919b5d3

(117)

on June 13, 2012
at 09:48 AM

Will give it a try but I now think the low acidity is due to h pylori in my stomach.

0104d134c517031678cb90bb2919b5d3

(117)

on June 13, 2012
at 09:47 AM

Yea I had to stop the sweet potato's a while back... I still miss them to this day :`(

F0e558010a2ecb31fa37b7c491596b8e

(3850)

on June 12, 2012
at 05:51 PM

Salt is very important in producing stomach acid and digesting protein. Make sure you are salting your food very liberally. Sometimes it also helps to drink salt dissolved in water before meals.

0104d134c517031678cb90bb2919b5d3

(117)

on May 12, 2012
at 09:08 AM

Started taking digestive enzymes with betaine HCL with some success although I can take massive amounts (5000mg) and still not feel "the burn". Also this has since aggrevated my ulcer a bit and I'm starting to get doudurnal ulcer symptoms again. Any advice would be very welcome.

0104d134c517031678cb90bb2919b5d3

(117)

on April 19, 2012
at 10:12 AM

Ok update time. I have been eating gaps stage 1&2 for a week. Same thing every day, start off fairly lean, normal stomach. Eat something (boiled meat with fat) bloat out a bit, this is then reduced slightly by tea time, then next meal bloat out more and repeat. Tried sequential eating and thorougly chewing, adding ACV/taking enzyemes, and coffee enema's with little success... any ideas guys?

2870a69b9c0c0a19a919e54cb3a62137

(1520)

on April 13, 2012
at 06:37 PM

You're on the right path. Give it some time. Don't undereat, but also don't eat very large meals. More smaller meals works better I think. Fats, meat and egg yolks are pretty sustainable. If you find that you need to stay on the intro diet for a long time, consider an additive-free multivitamin like Pure Encapsulations 950E to cover vitamin b1, e, c, manganese and whatever else may be low if you don't eat plants or organ meats. The recommended 3 caps a day is probably more than necessary.

0104d134c517031678cb90bb2919b5d3

(117)

on April 12, 2012
at 07:04 AM

Thanks, im guna start with bone broth, then progress to chicken boiled in bonebroth. If symptoms go away after this then will slowly add other foods back. Didn't know that about rice, always generally avoided it.

0104d134c517031678cb90bb2919b5d3

(117)

on April 12, 2012
at 07:01 AM

Yeah Dragonfly but only for 2 weeks, been trying to eat gaps ever since to sort it, started just having bone broth yesterday and I seem to be better today. Don't know if that's from a lack of food or gaps working, will continue and see. If it works i will let you know smartcookie. ps Sorry for late comments, couldn't get onto my account.

0104d134c517031678cb90bb2919b5d3

(117)

on April 12, 2012
at 06:58 AM

Thanks for the comments guy. Will try ditching the sauerkruat etc although I have done just beef mince / scrambled eggs and nothing else before for days in a row and it didn't really work.

Cfc7dee889a66db9cd76c4f348109294

(1652)

on March 30, 2012
at 12:48 AM

i am also constantly bloated without (seemingly) regards to what i eat. i am being tested for median arcuate ligament syndrome. incidentally, i was also treated for an ulcer with extreme antibiotics-no word yet on this. see a doctor, keep tweaking.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on March 29, 2012
at 04:05 PM

Did you take antibiotics for your ulcer?

535fafe8afe6923870905c707c4f4454

(720)

on March 29, 2012
at 02:00 PM

Personally.. Swede, carrot cabbage I avoid as causing difficulty to the GI. If your making sauerkraut maybe ditch it and ferment the carrots instead. Eliminates the raw cabbage and lets you keep the probiotics.

F92e4ca55291c3f3096a3d4d3d854986

(11698)

on March 29, 2012
at 12:06 PM

Sauerkraut is gas central!! Swedes and sweet potatoes can aldo be gassy.

2870a69b9c0c0a19a919e54cb3a62137

(1520)

on March 29, 2012
at 09:39 AM

You're totally eating FODMAPs all the time with the sauerkraut, starch and other plants.

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E12ead3bf63c94b5b619b03722ef554f

on July 18, 2012
at 07:54 AM

  • sweet potatoes contain FODMAPs and are not approved on the GAPS diet
  • the sauerkraut can cause problem, I would stop it for a little while to see
  • make sure the amount of vegetables you eat is small if you are still feeling bloated
  • do you use any onions/garlic in your bone broth? do you let it simmer too much? natural MSG can form if temperature is too high
  • I would probably try to eat fat at each meal (coconut oil/ghee)
  • have you tried digestive enzymes/betaine HCL?

0104d134c517031678cb90bb2919b5d3

(117)

on July 20, 2012
at 07:04 AM

Yeah I have done weeks on zero carb, just eating meats and fat, still bloat and tired. The digestive enzymes seemingly have no effect, I can take stupid amounts with no burning (18,000mg). I think my bloating is not caused by gas or the foods that I am eating (even water makes me bloat slightly)...

E12ead3bf63c94b5b619b03722ef554f

on July 20, 2012
at 08:27 AM

I would seriously consider getting a DNA stool test done.

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34cf7065a6c94062c711eb16c0f6adc3

on March 29, 2012
at 09:48 AM

Why don't you try different foods?

Try going zero carb for some time.

At other times eat only starch from rice (it contains little fiber, unlike sweet potatoes).

Then try only sugar.

Check if coconut oil is ok for you.

Check out what helps and what you must eliminate. Do not think that only some foods are good, and others aren't.

Everybody is different, and whether the food causes problems for you only you can decide.

You will have to do your own research.

0104d134c517031678cb90bb2919b5d3

(117)

on April 12, 2012
at 07:04 AM

Thanks, im guna start with bone broth, then progress to chicken boiled in bonebroth. If symptoms go away after this then will slowly add other foods back. Didn't know that about rice, always generally avoided it.

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0741d01441c7681b052ad0c8459e8601

(20)

on June 12, 2012
at 05:23 PM

I'm on a (pescetarian) low-fodmap diet, and get into huge trouble each time I eat sweet potatoes...

0104d134c517031678cb90bb2919b5d3

(117)

on June 13, 2012
at 09:47 AM

Yea I had to stop the sweet potato's a while back... I still miss them to this day :`(

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4856eae0511e116135bba0acc3e42ce5

on June 17, 2013
at 11:44 PM

hi! i have a similar issue and am on the very similar diet (SCD).
i suspected that i have sibo and from the already restrictive scd diet i cut out: dairy legumes high fodmap veggies nuts coconut flakes/flour honey fruit

interestingly, because i love veggies so much, the hardest part of this was cutting out the brassaicia family! the bloating went away for me after 10 days. i kept on and did it for 30, hoping for healing and slowly added things back in. i am so tired of restricting and trying to figure things out, but on the other hand am really happy to have some relief to the extreme bloating.

a nice low fodmap treat is boiling carrots until tender add cocomnut oil and cincna

4856eae0511e116135bba0acc3e42ce5

(80)

on June 17, 2013
at 11:45 PM

sorry and coconut oil and cinnamon and zap in the blender my husband makes fun of me for eating this, it does look a lot like baby food, but it's a nice sweet on such a restricted diet.

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Efb49ff855725147989dbfcf926175aa

(0)

on March 05, 2013
at 04:52 AM

I am curious if you ever figured it out? I am always bloated too even after water....hope to hear from you

0104d134c517031678cb90bb2919b5d3

(117)

on March 06, 2013
at 08:53 AM

Not yet! Recently did 30 days of water fasting, 7 of which I dry fasted. I noticed when dry fasting the massive bloat that had been around my stomach for the last year went away and my stomach was normal/flat again. However as soon as I drank water my stomach instantly bloated up again... it makes no sense. I have tried tons of other stuff over this last year if you're interested. Also what brought you're bloating on. I think mine was to do with ulcer/antibiotics.

0
0e4e5882872d6a7c472ea51aec457e66

(1994)

on July 18, 2012
at 09:54 AM

Bloating can also occur on to much histamine in your food. And sauerkraut is a histamine bomb... Achy muscles can also be a symptom of histamine intolerance.

0104d134c517031678cb90bb2919b5d3

(117)

on July 20, 2012
at 07:01 AM

Will check out the histimine, thanks. Although I stopped sauerkraut ages ago. I really think my bloating is not caused by gas as it happens even with water and every other food.

0
2398a058de93060b9d5117deb5f090a3

on July 17, 2012
at 09:25 PM

If you are in that much pain when eating foods there is obviously inflammation going on in the gut. I would suggest getting a few colonics done, supplementing with L-glutamine to heal the gut lining, and really paying attention to the safe fodmap foods...Aloe vera is is also a great healer for the stomach. Food allergies may also trigger symptoms of acidity, but a underactive stomach and an overactive can mimic eachother so be careful. Your best test is to try apple cidar vinegar to see if that burns your stomach. If not you will need HCL tablets before your meal. If it does burn then drink almond milk or coconut milk to bind the effects...

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0104d134c517031678cb90bb2919b5d3

on June 13, 2012
at 01:07 PM

The stool sample has come back negative for h pylori. So it must be something else... sigh.

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0104d134c517031678cb90bb2919b5d3

on May 29, 2012
at 02:15 PM

I think my problem was due to very low stomach acidity which I am now trying to solve. This was no doubt because of the proton pump inhibitors and my high protein diet.

Thanks for commenting everyone.

F0e558010a2ecb31fa37b7c491596b8e

(3850)

on June 12, 2012
at 05:51 PM

Salt is very important in producing stomach acid and digesting protein. Make sure you are salting your food very liberally. Sometimes it also helps to drink salt dissolved in water before meals.

0104d134c517031678cb90bb2919b5d3

(117)

on June 13, 2012
at 09:48 AM

Will give it a try but I now think the low acidity is due to h pylori in my stomach.

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