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Candida resources/treatments/supplements/tests

Asked on December 03, 2014
Created October 29, 2011 at 1:33 AM

Candida overgrowth is a very controversial topic. Considered over-diagnosed or under-diagnosed, it is often self-diagnosed and treated, while the list of probable symptoms/signs is too wide. It is one of the few issues that still affects even very strict Paleos. It can be found in quite many ZC and VLC paleos as it is believed to be quite adaptive and feed on ketones. I would like all Paleos to share their knowledge, experiences and information resources in order to make more informative choices about this annoying common fungus. Here is a list of possible useful information:

  • Information: good sites/books/blog entries/articles specifically on candida
  • Detection: different candida lab or manual tests, common symptoms and benchmarks
  • Supplements and Treatments: Effective supplements and medicines that help
  • Personal experience: share your personal story if it adds useful info

I will begin with my contribution:

Information:

-The Jaminets cover the topic in their good book plus they have some scattered good info in some of their blogs and comments section. http://perfecthealthdiet.com

-Bee diet - take some of the info with a grain of salt, but still a good resource http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/

-one decent, but very commercial resource, comment section is very useful:

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/06/10/holistic-treatment-for-candida-infection.aspx

http://mercola.fileburst.com/PDF/Candida-Special-Report.pdf

Books:

http://www.amazon.com/Chronic-Candidiasis-Vitamins-Minerals-Exercise/dp/076150821X/ref=acc_glance_hpc_ai_ps_t_4

http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Candida-Yeast-Guidebook-Revised/dp/0761527400/ref=acc_glance_hpc_ai_ps_t_6

Detection:

-Best list of candida tests http://www.mccombsplan.com/new/faq_2/faq.php?t=sq&uin=11

-oral thrush/coating, bottom itchiness, vaginal/penis white discharge, sinus infection, acne are some of the more common

Supplements and treatments

ANti-fungals:

-Fluconazole is the heavy duty http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluconazole -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nystatin

Supplements:

-http://www.didacandidasupplement.co.uk/index.htm

-http://www.iherb.com/Pure-Essence-Candex-Yeast-Management-System-120-Veggie-Caps/3218?at=0

-http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Candida-Clear-90-Vcaps/462?at=0

Probiotics, oral probiotics, and enzymes

-http://www.iherb.com/Nature-s-Plus-Ultra-Probiotics-40-Billion-Viable-Cells-60-Veggie-Caps/21090?at=0 -http://www.iherb.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Ideal-Bowel-Support-299v-30-Veggie-Caps/23209?at=0 -http://www.iherb.com/Life-Extension-Advanced-Oral-Hygiene-60-Veggie-Mint-Lozenges/18019?at=0 -http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Super-Enzymes-180-Capsules/857?at=0

Personal Experience

Please share your personal stories, favorite resources and what treatments/supplements worked and what did not, so your fellow Paleos can learn. Thanks!

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on November 02, 2011
at 06:51 AM

yes Doctor's Data. But it is the metal and chelation status which provide the context to interpret the results. If one is not releasing the store metals via normal glutathione and other elimination pathways, then the hair test will be falsely negative. I waited. I didn't do one on my kids or myself until we gently chelated for ~2 months. We all have boatloads of mercury esp my daughter who wt some point had 13 cavities and i didnt know about WAPF, K2, digestive enzymes, and GAPS. Her sx are getting beter... mild adhd, fat loss, GI, dry brittle hair, etc.

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on October 31, 2011
at 10:10 PM

Why lower in fat? And how much fat do you mean with lowfat? what kinds of proteine?

D7b01bbfd0b91a12c4aea43fb20adf15

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on October 31, 2011
at 10:56 AM

hey grace, have you tested yourself for heavy metals, do you recommend any particular type of test?

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on October 31, 2011
at 10:36 AM

The best diet for me right now is the auto-immune protocol. I don't know if I had candida, but I did have a mold allergy.

D7b01bbfd0b91a12c4aea43fb20adf15

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on October 30, 2011
at 07:09 PM

Good one, thanks for the pubmed link!

D7b01bbfd0b91a12c4aea43fb20adf15

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on October 30, 2011
at 03:15 PM

how was it obvious? what type of colonics?

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on October 30, 2011
at 11:00 AM

i had some serious candida overgrowth and have been working on it...definitely improved since i started my "curing" in july. I dont know whether it feeds off ketones, but i do know fruit doesnt help it any and i was told to cut out most fruit if not all. I still tinker here and there w/ fruit but not as much as i used too. I also take a really good probiotic by renew life that helps a lot and i do colonics regularly. All of those have helped me tremendously. I found out i had candida overgrowth simple by having my first colonic and it was quite obvious that it was very present.

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on October 30, 2011
at 12:25 AM

Sweet, thanks..

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on October 29, 2011
at 02:29 AM

Great resources on candida over here: http://www.holisticchineseherbs.com/?s=candida

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3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

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on October 31, 2011
at 06:00 AM

I think PHD has great resources. I hope they write more on the subject and personal experiences. All the above sources are really informative for myself!

My experience is that unrelenting candida and/or microbial small bowel overgrowth are related to trace heavy metal toxicity. If paleo doesn't take care of it, then deeper problems are being overlooked, e.g. metals.

Natasha Turner wrote a fantastic book called The Hormone Diet -- she wrote some pieces on candida below, but no discussion of the deeper issues like metals:

Ingrid Naiman is a very insightful practitioner with personal experiences:

I searched 'candida'; the below site is very well resourced and well run. Brenda Watson who Robb Wolf has referenced talks about leaky gut. Candida and metals are discussed:

D7b01bbfd0b91a12c4aea43fb20adf15

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on October 31, 2011
at 10:56 AM

hey grace, have you tested yourself for heavy metals, do you recommend any particular type of test?

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on November 02, 2011
at 06:51 AM

yes Doctor's Data. But it is the metal and chelation status which provide the context to interpret the results. If one is not releasing the store metals via normal glutathione and other elimination pathways, then the hair test will be falsely negative. I waited. I didn't do one on my kids or myself until we gently chelated for ~2 months. We all have boatloads of mercury esp my daughter who wt some point had 13 cavities and i didnt know about WAPF, K2, digestive enzymes, and GAPS. Her sx are getting beter... mild adhd, fat loss, GI, dry brittle hair, etc.

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on October 29, 2011
at 09:57 PM

great info.

i have something to contribute too but i hope it's not too gross... i've always been curious about why stools look the way they do and ever since starting to fight bacterial overgrowth and possibly candida as well, my stool has been changing on a day-to-day bases and i never knew how to tell what's what. but then i found a poop blog.

http://gfcfpoop.blogspot.com/

please DO NOT click on it if it's just gonna gross u out. but for the people who have been seeing weird stools and want to get some clues as to what's going on then this is the blog. i learned a bit as to color, texture, mucus etc. great indicator for intestinal health :))

742ff8ba4ff55e84593ede14ac1c3cab

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on October 30, 2011
at 12:25 AM

Sweet, thanks..

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on October 29, 2011
at 03:32 AM

Saccharomyces boulardii is a probiotic worth mentioning. Jarrow Formulas makes a good one.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17885943

http://www.jarrow.com/product/265/Saccharomyces_Boulardii_MOS

D7b01bbfd0b91a12c4aea43fb20adf15

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on October 30, 2011
at 07:09 PM

Good one, thanks for the pubmed link!

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on December 12, 2011
at 09:20 PM

have suffered from acne for five years and been through à couple of antibiotics for it. 22 year old male. I read online about the possibility of developing candida from antibiotics and one of the symptoms from candida is acne. I figured I would do à test for it and the results came today. Can you please help me explain My test result and if I've got Candida or not? And if it could contribute why I still get acne and feel tired and depressed quite often. Differencr between igg and iga? I don't understand any of it and Can't talk with à doctor for à while.

Here's the test result: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/412/sss1q.jpg/

Can someone please help me interpret this?

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on October 30, 2011
at 04:09 PM

My chiropractor often puts his patients on a 21-day yeast diet. You're essentially eating a lower fat (though not low-fat) strict paleo, with the addition of no fruits. During that time, he has you taking probiotics, plus some supplements from Thorne Research: SF-722 and Artecin. My husband and I were both pretty successful on this diet, and it really cleaned up some issues for us, especially since we shifted to eating Paleo not soon after.

669790861549f3c6d54d88a65296ed19

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on October 31, 2011
at 10:10 PM

Why lower in fat? And how much fat do you mean with lowfat? what kinds of proteine?

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