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antibiotics, Copper IUD, and recent migraine headaches

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created June 01, 2012 at 1:06 AM

Firstly, I understand you are not doctors. I plan on scheduling an appointment as soon as I can, but I was just wondering if anyone in the Paleo community had any ideas. Any input is much appreciated.

I've had several UTIs in the past year and have been through multiple courses of antibiotics. I realize antibiotics are not good for gut health and have been trying to recolonize my gut bacteria by eating probiotic foods. I've been drinking kombucha for months but 2 weeks ago I decided to diversify my probiotics by adding lactose free kefir, full fat organic plain yogurt, and sauerkraut. At the same time, I'm restricting fruit to lose weight and regulate blood sugar. I've been having crazy migraines. Could this be due to the upping of my probiotics? Or the one fruit a day limit I set for myself?

Additional info: I'm 21 year old female and just switched my birth control from the hormonal patch to the copper IUD. (trying to reduce hormones in my body and go more natural) I'm worried these horrible headaches could be a side effect of the IUD (or copper toxicity...which sounds scary!) I've never experienced headaches this bad and they've only started within the past two weeks. What should I do? Any natural remedies for headache relief?

Thanks for your help!

Bdc6244bdbd664d2168a8e326018ffbe

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on April 26, 2013
at 07:19 PM

Ashley, how much zinc did you supplement?

Bd271299b2d4d9b2e3da9c252fef058c

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on September 04, 2012
at 08:03 PM

i love mine, too! pms is heavier, but i think it's worth it.

60af23519906aa54b742ffc17477c3d3

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on June 04, 2012
at 04:43 AM

I only had it for 3 mos. If you're not experiencing a lot of problems (mine started after a month) there is no need to scare yourself. I think it's a great method of BC, I just wish they made it from another metal so I could try again.

58d456f4c4d551a697e65ada8c32ad4f

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on June 01, 2012
at 05:17 PM

I've had nothing but good stuff with mine! No horror stories for me!

58d456f4c4d551a697e65ada8c32ad4f

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on June 01, 2012
at 05:16 PM

Sad to hear folks are having such issues with their IUDs, all I n=know is I have the one without hormones. I've had it for almost 6 years with no problems.

E68bdbd83e45fd5be130e393ace9c9a9

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on June 01, 2012
at 03:26 PM

Whoa, sorry you had those issues, Ashley. May I ask how long you had the IUD before you got the copper toxicity? I've had mine for over 6 months, no issues yet but now I'm a little frightened!

60af23519906aa54b742ffc17477c3d3

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on June 01, 2012
at 06:35 AM

I ended up with copper toxicity. I had migraines, severe digestive disturbances, and bloated up like a balloon. Not to mention total loss of sexual desire. Zinc, removal of the IUD and time helped clear it up.

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

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on June 01, 2012
at 04:54 AM

I'd up the sugar from fruit and see if that helps.

E68bdbd83e45fd5be130e393ace9c9a9

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on June 01, 2012
at 03:06 AM

I got mine in on my period too. Just to warn you (as you've probably already heard), your period is going to be crazy heavy and no fun at all for several months. I wasn't even going off hormonal birth control (which lightens periods), and my periods went crazy. I was bleeding so much I was frightened, for like 6 days. But it's been about 5 months now, and my body is used to the Paragard, and thanks to paleo, my last period was lighter than ever (even pre-Paragard). It's definitely worth it, as long as you can stick it out for the first several months. Plan to use tampons and pads together.

A6f9b3029012b263a99a9d906737ee07

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on June 01, 2012
at 02:34 AM

Thanks for the supplement advice. I do magnesium here and there (I'm horrible at taking any pills/supplements consistently), but I'll try adding in zinc. Do you mind sharing what issues you had with the IUD? Im just curious. Don't meant to scare off all male readers of the forum...but I think the title may have already done that :)

A6f9b3029012b263a99a9d906737ee07

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on June 01, 2012
at 02:30 AM

When I got my IUD inserted I was on my period. My OBGYN warned that I may have heavy cramping and bleeding for up to two weeks, but two days after my bleeding stopped and the cramps did too. (This was one week ago) I was excited about the small amount of bleeding, but then the headaches started...

E68bdbd83e45fd5be130e393ace9c9a9

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on June 01, 2012
at 02:07 AM

It's true that the dose makes the poison, but I don't think Ashley was advocating crazy mega-doses.

D5d982a898721d3392c85f951d0bf0aa

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on June 01, 2012
at 02:03 AM

Zinc is not harmless. Most innocuous things aren't. The dose makes the poison. http://www.fda.gov/Newsevents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm167065.htm (loss of sense of smell) http://www.webmd.com/oral-health/news/20110215/zinc-poisoning-linked-to-popular-denture-creams (nerve damage) and just straight up toxicity, acute and chronic.

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85f91220dc9fe7486eec8c4305139c7e

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on June 01, 2012
at 12:53 PM

I just thought I would share a positive copper T IUD story. After my first child I had one in for almost 10 years, with little to no side effects. I had it taken out, had my second child and had a new one put back in. My second child is 9 now and I'm still happy with the IUD.

Beth

58d456f4c4d551a697e65ada8c32ad4f

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on June 01, 2012
at 05:17 PM

I've had nothing but good stuff with mine! No horror stories for me!

Bd271299b2d4d9b2e3da9c252fef058c

(2854)

on September 04, 2012
at 08:03 PM

i love mine, too! pms is heavier, but i think it's worth it.

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60af23519906aa54b742ffc17477c3d3

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on June 01, 2012
at 01:34 AM

I had a copper IUD and a lot of issues with it. The thing that helped me most was supplementing with Zinc and Magnesium, which are copper antagonists. Even if you don't have copper toxicity, they are good for your stress levels and sleep patters and they're harmless.

Good luck :)

60af23519906aa54b742ffc17477c3d3

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on June 01, 2012
at 06:35 AM

I ended up with copper toxicity. I had migraines, severe digestive disturbances, and bloated up like a balloon. Not to mention total loss of sexual desire. Zinc, removal of the IUD and time helped clear it up.

D5d982a898721d3392c85f951d0bf0aa

(2417)

on June 01, 2012
at 02:03 AM

Zinc is not harmless. Most innocuous things aren't. The dose makes the poison. http://www.fda.gov/Newsevents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm167065.htm (loss of sense of smell) http://www.webmd.com/oral-health/news/20110215/zinc-poisoning-linked-to-popular-denture-creams (nerve damage) and just straight up toxicity, acute and chronic.

A6f9b3029012b263a99a9d906737ee07

(173)

on June 01, 2012
at 02:34 AM

Thanks for the supplement advice. I do magnesium here and there (I'm horrible at taking any pills/supplements consistently), but I'll try adding in zinc. Do you mind sharing what issues you had with the IUD? Im just curious. Don't meant to scare off all male readers of the forum...but I think the title may have already done that :)

58d456f4c4d551a697e65ada8c32ad4f

(1178)

on June 01, 2012
at 05:16 PM

Sad to hear folks are having such issues with their IUDs, all I n=know is I have the one without hormones. I've had it for almost 6 years with no problems.

E68bdbd83e45fd5be130e393ace9c9a9

(2063)

on June 01, 2012
at 02:07 AM

It's true that the dose makes the poison, but I don't think Ashley was advocating crazy mega-doses.

E68bdbd83e45fd5be130e393ace9c9a9

(2063)

on June 01, 2012
at 03:26 PM

Whoa, sorry you had those issues, Ashley. May I ask how long you had the IUD before you got the copper toxicity? I've had mine for over 6 months, no issues yet but now I'm a little frightened!

60af23519906aa54b742ffc17477c3d3

(1186)

on June 04, 2012
at 04:43 AM

I only had it for 3 mos. If you're not experiencing a lot of problems (mine started after a month) there is no need to scare yourself. I think it's a great method of BC, I just wish they made it from another metal so I could try again.

Bdc6244bdbd664d2168a8e326018ffbe

(431)

on April 26, 2013
at 07:19 PM

Ashley, how much zinc did you supplement?

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on June 01, 2012
at 11:00 AM

I had an absolutely disastrous experience with the copper IUD (Paragard) and it had nothing to do with going off of any other form of birth control as I was not on anything prior. It gave me horrific periods that never went away even with keeping it for 1.5 years because I was told they would eventually lighten, headaches, massive cramps (when I had never had cramps before), and the worst PMS I've ever experienced (mood swings, crushing depression) - all while eating a low carb Paleo diet.

I would not at all be surprised if your migraines were related to the copper IUD. Good luck with it. I wish I had mine taken out sooner than I did, but my gyno basically thought I was crazy when I complained about my symptoms so I kept it in (and suffered tremendously) for far too long. Although now I have to use only barrier methods for birth control, I feel a million times better than I did with the copper IUD (no PMS, no cramps, and a 3-day period). Funny how they say it's non-hormone so it must be safe and produce no side effects. It's still a foreign (and mostly plastic) object in your body. That's not natural.

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E68bdbd83e45fd5be130e393ace9c9a9

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on June 01, 2012
at 02:06 AM

My headaches were caused by trace gluten exposure -- are you gluten intolerant?

When women switch to a copper IUD from hormonal birth control, they often think that any effects they experience are a result of the IUD, but it's much more likely that what you're reacting to is the lack of artificial hormones in your system. You should give it some time for your hormones to restore their natural balance. It is very unlikely that you would develop copper toxicity so quickly (and its rare with Paragard anyway).

I agree with Ashley about supplementing zinc and magnesium as they are likely to help and very unlikely to do any harm.

Question: do you have your period right now? You could be suffering a menstrual migraine. Hormonal birth control would mitigate that, so you might not be used to your "natural" amount of PMS. Paleo will help with this but it takes months.

A6f9b3029012b263a99a9d906737ee07

(173)

on June 01, 2012
at 02:30 AM

When I got my IUD inserted I was on my period. My OBGYN warned that I may have heavy cramping and bleeding for up to two weeks, but two days after my bleeding stopped and the cramps did too. (This was one week ago) I was excited about the small amount of bleeding, but then the headaches started...

E68bdbd83e45fd5be130e393ace9c9a9

(2063)

on June 01, 2012
at 03:06 AM

I got mine in on my period too. Just to warn you (as you've probably already heard), your period is going to be crazy heavy and no fun at all for several months. I wasn't even going off hormonal birth control (which lightens periods), and my periods went crazy. I was bleeding so much I was frightened, for like 6 days. But it's been about 5 months now, and my body is used to the Paragard, and thanks to paleo, my last period was lighter than ever (even pre-Paragard). It's definitely worth it, as long as you can stick it out for the first several months. Plan to use tampons and pads together.

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90fb78f8c8b000d7274be2a113e916e2

on August 07, 2013
at 09:47 PM

Every woman's experience is different with the copper IUD. A friend of mine has had hers for five years with no problems. I had mine for three years with chronic infections, diagnosed thyroid disorder and severe anxiety. A naturopath suggested I was likely experiencing copper toxicity. Once I had it removed, within a few weeks, the infections stopped and my T-cells were back in normal range.

For me, the copper IUD was the worst mistake I've ever made. I've been fighting chronic fungal/yeast infections since, due to a long-term suppressed immune system and the several rounds of broad-spectrum antibiotics I took, despite copiously supplementing with probiotics. If in doubt, take it out!

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on September 04, 2012
at 06:16 PM

Ashley afterr you had your iud out how long was it untill you heaad aches stopped? I've had mine out 2 weeks now&im still getting headaches..

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on June 01, 2012
at 01:09 PM

I've had the copper iud (paragard) for almost a year without issues. Haven't even had the common "heavier period" complaint except the first month I had some spotting. I do eat lots of red meat, shellfish, and occasionally some liver so I wonder if it's a zinc problem .

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on June 01, 2012
at 04:37 AM

I got the copper IUD and the doctor had to take it out immediately. I am allergic to nickel and the IUD has trace amounts of nickel in it. I switched to the Mirena and it w Has been fine for the last 9 months. The hormones are only localized so I don't get the crazy hormone flux I did with the pill. I would have the doctor do a skin test for allergies to copper and nickel to rule that out first.

Ps my doctor didn't even know there was nickel in the IUD, but I looked it up on the manufacturers website.

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