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Which high-carb veggies are high in glucose and not fructose?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created April 17, 2011 at 10:55 PM

Hey everybody,

In order to heal my adrenal fatigue and screwed up cortisol levels, I got the advice to go more highcarb (with the same amounts of protein and fat)

So now I'm wondering which sources of highcarb apart from sweet potato/yams,red beets and pumpkin/squashes there are that are higher in glucose than fructose? I might add some fruit though I don't want to go bordering on diabetes again. In reverse which fruits are ideal,apart from berries?(cause I only love strawberries)

So yay for fatgain!:s....maybe I'll finally get over my fear to get fat,as i hopefully start to feel better,especially mentally

I'd like to gain some muscle in the process.Anybody any advice how to do this,without stressing the adrenals/my body and how frequent and for how long (20 min.?30min.? more or less?)

669790861549f3c6d54d88a65296ed19

(452)

on April 26, 2011
at 09:48 PM

Lyme&Co suck big time!Sorry to hear you're struck by it too. You can contact me on: [email protected]

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 18, 2011
at 08:53 PM

Dexter: Aren't carbs necessary for sex-hormones(eg. testosterone)? I am also concerned with the research I just read about ketone bodies and their correlation to testicular toxicity. Is this weird science or...? Currently I am following a VLC diet and its been well and good. A bit fatigued from time to time(possible overtraining with weights), and lower sex drive. Care to give a brotha some advice on this issue?

669790861549f3c6d54d88a65296ed19

(452)

on April 18, 2011
at 03:19 PM

And this all left me with a really twisted relationship towards food&exercise/movement. I guess I'll probably have to bite the bullet and accept that I'm gonna be fat again,but I honestly to God hope that it'll make me mentally stable. On one hand I'd like to be able to become strong/gain muscle...on the other hand I feel so lethargic towards exercise. It's still an obsessive compulsive thing in my mind. So I wonder if I'll ever get back in the saddle again by the time I've gained weight.

669790861549f3c6d54d88a65296ed19

(452)

on April 18, 2011
at 03:15 PM

I'm intolerant towards rice too.Especially White rice converts too much into sugars,which in turn feeds the Lyme. Basically my pancreas is healing from being soured by leaky gut. Which led to no good digestion of carbs-->getting fat...but my adrenals are also totally burned out,so it can't handle the stress of glucogenesis and for some reason my brain needs the carbs too in order to feel good. Probably all caused by stress on the body by chronic cardio,mental stressing(about food&exercise) and "underfeeding" or at least the wrong kind of 'fuel".

Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

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on April 18, 2011
at 11:50 AM

Have you tried white rice? It has basically none of the things considered harmful in other grains. Taro might also work, and it's not a grain.

669790861549f3c6d54d88a65296ed19

(452)

on April 18, 2011
at 01:45 AM

I don't own a glucose meter,might buy one. I don't experience the Diabetes symptoms anymore since going VLC Paleo about a year ago.

669790861549f3c6d54d88a65296ed19

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on April 18, 2011
at 01:42 AM

Yes I do take the necessary ingredients. I've tried VLC and it didn't work for me.Like I said too much stress for my body,especially for my brains...it gives me depressing feelings and cravings towards bad stuff. The naturopath is specialised in tackling adrenal fatigue. VLC is maybe a good way to live for lots of Paleo people but my body/brain needs the nutrients from veggies.Not every Primalist is helped by going VLC,I just wish they spoke out more. Since the article is for sale and in pdf I can't publish it here,otherwise I would've.

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

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on April 18, 2011
at 01:39 AM

Final question: How do you know you don't experience diabetes issues anymore? Do you measure your blood glucose upon getting up in the morning and do you measure one hour after eating a normal meal. If your fasting BG is around 100 and one hour after eating has risen much more than 130 then you do have issues. Dr Davis wants after eating BG to be close to the fasting. If not then the pancreas is not putting out enough insulin to control the BG...ie diabetic. You can get a home glucose tester for under $20 at WalMart. http://www.heartscanblog.org/2010/03/timing-of-blood-sugars.html

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

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on April 18, 2011
at 01:29 AM

And do you supplement with Vit D3? 10000IU for three months, then 5000IU per day there on to stengthen your immune system. How Vit D3 helps us: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7379094/Vitamin-D-triggers-and-arms-the-immune-system.html It might be able to help your immune system get rid of the Lyme.

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

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on April 18, 2011
at 01:25 AM

Your body and brain can function on ketones only. Your brain needs glucose to function on and ketones provide that glucose. The idea of the brain needing carbs is after they have been broken down to glucose. If you will eat the ketogenic way of less than 5% carbs, your body will go into ketosis and will operate just fine...as long as you sub plenty of fat and some protein for the carbs you will not be eating. Protein in meat is what our ancestors ate. It ain't stressful. Heal your gut as is outlined by Dr Ayers http://coolinginflammation.blogspot.com/ roam around his site for recommends

669790861549f3c6d54d88a65296ed19

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on April 18, 2011
at 01:02 AM

so I can't have any extra stress since my entire body/immune system is already stressed by Lyme and other bad inhabitants

669790861549f3c6d54d88a65296ed19

(452)

on April 18, 2011
at 01:01 AM

Based on a naturopath's recommendation,theone from the article on Performance Menu.com, and like I said before I knew and indeed ate lots of proteins which were converted I literally got anxious/nervous&depressive feelings.

425aa4bfb79556ed50ea693c3edd7e13

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on April 18, 2011
at 12:55 AM

"Glucogenis of protein is too stressful for my body" -- you say this based on ... what?

669790861549f3c6d54d88a65296ed19

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on April 18, 2011
at 12:22 AM

Thanx Mari,but I've proven to be intolerant towards all grains..basically conventional considered carbs. So i must really get my carbs within the Paleo range

Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

(7314)

on April 18, 2011
at 12:17 AM

You might try rice or tapioca then. Not many nutrients, but it will give you carbs. Have you read the perfect health diet by paul jaminet?

669790861549f3c6d54d88a65296ed19

(452)

on April 18, 2011
at 12:13 AM

I can't eat potatoes,since I'm intolerant of nightshades,amongst many other foods. I should've mentioned that in my post.

669790861549f3c6d54d88a65296ed19

(452)

on April 18, 2011
at 12:12 AM

I don't experience Diabetes issues anymore,but Lyme,bad gut flora and my history of chronic cardio (and probably underfeeding) whacked my adrenals&cortisol levels.I actually feel my mood lift up and stronger in muscles when I ate something like pumpkin/squash or fatty fish...or a combo of both.Glucogenis of protein is too stressful for my body.(Supposedly the brain needs about 100/120gr.of carbs) I recently read an article about a chronic exerciser and that story was very similar to mine(although I never enjoyed it).He has gone on a high paleo diet to recover the adrenals.

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06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

(9948)

on April 17, 2011
at 11:28 PM

It seems that people here that eat 75-80% fat, 10-15% protein and less than 5% carbs do not have adrenal issues nor do they have mood or feeling bad problems.

The adivice to go high carb is a little strange since you say you are borderline diabetic. I hope you know that carbs are basically strings of sugar molecules strung together to look like carbs. When they breakdown in the gut, they are converted to blood sugar which spikes your insulin...so you are not really avoiding sugar at all.

If you will eat a ketogenic diet, you will control your blood sugar and your mood and you stress cortisol problems. And you will lose a few unwanted pounds.

Also getting noon sunshine for 20 min a day half naked...10 min a side will supply you with a goodly amount of Vit D3 which also greatly helps to elevate mood. Or supplement with Vit D3 10000IU for three months...then back off to 5000IU per day.

Do Tabata wind sprints twice a week.

With the Ketogenic diet, your body may run out of energy because you body is converting itself from burning the sugar and carbs you used to intake to burning your eaten and stored fat. See Dr Eades on the conversion process http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/uncategorized/lt-frederick-schwatka-and-low-carb-adaptation/

Good luck.

669790861549f3c6d54d88a65296ed19

(452)

on April 18, 2011
at 01:45 AM

I don't own a glucose meter,might buy one. I don't experience the Diabetes symptoms anymore since going VLC Paleo about a year ago.

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

(9948)

on April 18, 2011
at 01:25 AM

Your body and brain can function on ketones only. Your brain needs glucose to function on and ketones provide that glucose. The idea of the brain needing carbs is after they have been broken down to glucose. If you will eat the ketogenic way of less than 5% carbs, your body will go into ketosis and will operate just fine...as long as you sub plenty of fat and some protein for the carbs you will not be eating. Protein in meat is what our ancestors ate. It ain't stressful. Heal your gut as is outlined by Dr Ayers http://coolinginflammation.blogspot.com/ roam around his site for recommends

669790861549f3c6d54d88a65296ed19

(452)

on April 18, 2011
at 01:42 AM

Yes I do take the necessary ingredients. I've tried VLC and it didn't work for me.Like I said too much stress for my body,especially for my brains...it gives me depressing feelings and cravings towards bad stuff. The naturopath is specialised in tackling adrenal fatigue. VLC is maybe a good way to live for lots of Paleo people but my body/brain needs the nutrients from veggies.Not every Primalist is helped by going VLC,I just wish they spoke out more. Since the article is for sale and in pdf I can't publish it here,otherwise I would've.

425aa4bfb79556ed50ea693c3edd7e13

(609)

on April 18, 2011
at 12:55 AM

"Glucogenis of protein is too stressful for my body" -- you say this based on ... what?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 18, 2011
at 08:53 PM

Dexter: Aren't carbs necessary for sex-hormones(eg. testosterone)? I am also concerned with the research I just read about ketone bodies and their correlation to testicular toxicity. Is this weird science or...? Currently I am following a VLC diet and its been well and good. A bit fatigued from time to time(possible overtraining with weights), and lower sex drive. Care to give a brotha some advice on this issue?

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

(9948)

on April 18, 2011
at 01:29 AM

And do you supplement with Vit D3? 10000IU for three months, then 5000IU per day there on to stengthen your immune system. How Vit D3 helps us: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7379094/Vitamin-D-triggers-and-arms-the-immune-system.html It might be able to help your immune system get rid of the Lyme.

669790861549f3c6d54d88a65296ed19

(452)

on April 18, 2011
at 12:12 AM

I don't experience Diabetes issues anymore,but Lyme,bad gut flora and my history of chronic cardio (and probably underfeeding) whacked my adrenals&cortisol levels.I actually feel my mood lift up and stronger in muscles when I ate something like pumpkin/squash or fatty fish...or a combo of both.Glucogenis of protein is too stressful for my body.(Supposedly the brain needs about 100/120gr.of carbs) I recently read an article about a chronic exerciser and that story was very similar to mine(although I never enjoyed it).He has gone on a high paleo diet to recover the adrenals.

669790861549f3c6d54d88a65296ed19

(452)

on April 18, 2011
at 01:02 AM

so I can't have any extra stress since my entire body/immune system is already stressed by Lyme and other bad inhabitants

669790861549f3c6d54d88a65296ed19

(452)

on April 18, 2011
at 01:01 AM

Based on a naturopath's recommendation,theone from the article on Performance Menu.com, and like I said before I knew and indeed ate lots of proteins which were converted I literally got anxious/nervous&depressive feelings.

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

(9948)

on April 18, 2011
at 01:39 AM

Final question: How do you know you don't experience diabetes issues anymore? Do you measure your blood glucose upon getting up in the morning and do you measure one hour after eating a normal meal. If your fasting BG is around 100 and one hour after eating has risen much more than 130 then you do have issues. Dr Davis wants after eating BG to be close to the fasting. If not then the pancreas is not putting out enough insulin to control the BG...ie diabetic. You can get a home glucose tester for under $20 at WalMart. http://www.heartscanblog.org/2010/03/timing-of-blood-sugars.html

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on April 26, 2011
at 03:04 PM

Joey I'm also having similar problems with having immune system problems, Lyme disease and trying to eat on a Paleo diet since I have blood sugar issues. What is your email I'd like to contact you?

669790861549f3c6d54d88a65296ed19

(452)

on April 26, 2011
at 09:48 PM

Lyme&Co suck big time!Sorry to hear you're struck by it too. You can contact me on: [email protected]

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on April 18, 2011
at 01:21 AM

Taro, Cassava, Pumpkin, True Yam, Boniato, Camote del Cerro... I think all these, maybe except pumpkin are lower in fructose than the traditional sweet potato variety.

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Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

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on April 17, 2011
at 10:57 PM

Potatoes! Very little fructose, if any, plus they are ridiculously tasty. Potatoes in tallow or ghee with salt and pepper is one of my favorite things to eat.

Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

(7314)

on April 18, 2011
at 12:17 AM

You might try rice or tapioca then. Not many nutrients, but it will give you carbs. Have you read the perfect health diet by paul jaminet?

669790861549f3c6d54d88a65296ed19

(452)

on April 18, 2011
at 12:13 AM

I can't eat potatoes,since I'm intolerant of nightshades,amongst many other foods. I should've mentioned that in my post.

669790861549f3c6d54d88a65296ed19

(452)

on April 18, 2011
at 12:22 AM

Thanx Mari,but I've proven to be intolerant towards all grains..basically conventional considered carbs. So i must really get my carbs within the Paleo range

669790861549f3c6d54d88a65296ed19

(452)

on April 18, 2011
at 03:15 PM

I'm intolerant towards rice too.Especially White rice converts too much into sugars,which in turn feeds the Lyme. Basically my pancreas is healing from being soured by leaky gut. Which led to no good digestion of carbs-->getting fat...but my adrenals are also totally burned out,so it can't handle the stress of glucogenesis and for some reason my brain needs the carbs too in order to feel good. Probably all caused by stress on the body by chronic cardio,mental stressing(about food&exercise) and "underfeeding" or at least the wrong kind of 'fuel".

Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

(7314)

on April 18, 2011
at 11:50 AM

Have you tried white rice? It has basically none of the things considered harmful in other grains. Taro might also work, and it's not a grain.

669790861549f3c6d54d88a65296ed19

(452)

on April 18, 2011
at 03:19 PM

And this all left me with a really twisted relationship towards food&exercise/movement. I guess I'll probably have to bite the bullet and accept that I'm gonna be fat again,but I honestly to God hope that it'll make me mentally stable. On one hand I'd like to be able to become strong/gain muscle...on the other hand I feel so lethargic towards exercise. It's still an obsessive compulsive thing in my mind. So I wonder if I'll ever get back in the saddle again by the time I've gained weight.

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