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"Primal Spirit Foods" makes me angry. What about you?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created April 27, 2011 at 1:12 AM

Saw these in Whole Foods at the checkout today and had a hard time not getting annoyed. Faux meat strips labeled "Primal" and 100% vegan. Can't get much further from primal than over processed faux meat. I guess it's childish for me to be annoyed at the product, but I am very much so. Does this annoy you? I initially picked it up because I saw the word primal and assumed that the product fit the "primal" definition (as defined by Mark Sisson) and then was surprised to see the word "vegan" on the front.

http://www.primalspiritfoods.com/index.php

an ingredients list: NON-GMO VITAL GLUTEN (WHEAT PROTEIN), WATER, UNREFINED EVAPORATED CANE JUICE, NATURALLY BREWED SOY SAUCE (WATER, NON-GMO SOYBEANS, SEA SALT), EXPELLER PRESSED CANOLA OIL, PEANUT BUTTER, VINEGAR, FRESH THAI BASIL, SEA SALT, NATURAL VEGETARIAN SPICES. NO MSG ADDED.

C2450eb7fa11b37473599caf93b461ef

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on November 09, 2012
at 03:17 PM

I have friends who are Jain, and yes, there are many religions that require their adherents be vegetarian. Instead of lambasting them, perhaps educating them to the healthiest way to feed their bodies while remaining true to their faith would be a more compassionate route.

Cbec79abb05bc56635153513d67fe20c

(16)

on October 01, 2012
at 04:25 PM

Jainism, Hinduism and Buddhism and some Christian groups believe only in vegetarianism. And I don't eat gluten. I only eat the gluten free primal strips. I know that I need protein, so I get it. But I don't believe in eating other animals.

Cbec79abb05bc56635153513d67fe20c

(16)

on October 01, 2012
at 04:23 PM

Jainism, Hinduism, and Buddhism.

Cbec79abb05bc56635153513d67fe20c

(16)

on October 01, 2012
at 04:21 PM

I don't eat gluten. I actually only eat the gluten free ones.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19413)

on September 29, 2012
at 10:50 PM

Wait, so you voluntarily WANT to eat soy and gluten to destroy your health? Really? And you actually believe that you "need" these things? Speaking of ignorant, how exactly is gluten superior to animal protein again? What religion would force ill health upon its followers? Curious meat eaters want to know!

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on October 01, 2011
at 02:57 PM

I was just thinking about that exact thing yesterday. I think if a scientist had to make your food in a lab, it isn't real food.

Ffc7e0ecad8e8831b528c5d4921377cc

(942)

on July 18, 2011
at 11:38 PM

Thank you but I think you missed my point. Mackey doesn't push vegetarian food because it makes more money. He pushes it because he sincerely believes in vegetarianism so far as I can tell. I see no reason to think that his goal is to capitalize on ignorance.

16e617676c5ac710e5235e0b773edc0b

(2640)

on July 18, 2011
at 06:24 PM

Yes! I too have picked up the faux-jerky at Whole Foods and read the ingredients list in disgust. How dare they call it Primal when it isn't even real meat. Ugh. As for the Trader Joe's grass-fed meat - the only grass-fed meat they carry is the Sommers Organic beef (ribeyes and TJ's labeled organic ground beef). The package itself just says organic and that it could come from Australia or Uruguay (talk about not local!) but if you go to the Sommers Organic website they do say it's grass-fed.

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

(4090)

on July 18, 2011
at 05:21 PM

You make a good point! If a vegan/veggie agenda make them more money, they (as business people) will stupid not to pursue it. So complaining is totally futile. Good for them in fact, capitalizing on the ill informed and misguided is certainly not a crime. (oh wait..maybe it should be) In disagreement with that whole load of crap, we (as pursuer's of better health) can only put our money where our mouth is. Luckily I live in a semi-big city, so I have a ton of options.

A89f9751a97c3082802dc0bcbe4e9208

(13978)

on July 18, 2011
at 05:01 PM

I love that! "Not worth the cortisol!" That should be on a t-shirt!

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on July 18, 2011
at 03:48 PM

Most of the trader joe meat is not grass fed

Fe535c4994ac6176f76e1ff6d29eb08a

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on July 18, 2011
at 02:50 PM

Also, theyve been around since 2001, so I think if you were gonna jump on them, the time has passed.

7d0c3ea9bf8be00b93e6433d8f125ac3

(7540)

on July 18, 2011
at 02:12 PM

Well...it's not like Mark's got a trademark on the world "primal."

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on April 28, 2011
at 04:46 PM

So, maybe all Trader Joe's aren't created equal. Mine only had one kind of grass fed beef: pre-packaged ground beef. Needless to say I wasn't impressed.

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on April 27, 2011
at 03:45 PM

@sherpamelissa, thanks for the trader joe's tip. I hadn't seen grass fed at trader joe's, but I must not have really looked. I would love to stop shopping at whole foods.

Ef9f83cb4e1826261a44c173f733789e

(13635)

on April 27, 2011
at 10:19 AM

A heart in the logo = autofail.

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(5639)

on April 27, 2011
at 05:49 AM

Crummy vegans! Why does the mainstream trust them so much? Because they couch their diet in this faux-mystical do-no-harm hypocrisy.

E2b9c679315c7c9c7265783dde89f350

(1303)

on April 27, 2011
at 04:22 AM

We don't have a local TJ or WF, but I saw this in the organic section at my local supermarket. And yeah, I had the exact same reaction you did. "Primal! ... WTF?"

06d21b99c58283ce575e36c4ecd4a458

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on April 27, 2011
at 01:53 AM

I did buy Kerrygold butter at my Costco in Az 3 eight ounce bricks for about $7.50. You have a Costco in Raleigh.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on April 27, 2011
at 01:40 AM

You don't have a Trader Joe's, Ali?

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(2169)

on April 27, 2011
at 01:36 AM

@ Kim, you know, I hadn't really noticed that Whole Foods has a vegetarian agenda, but they really do. Too bad I haven't yet found a different source for grassfed beef and kerrygold butter.

B4ec9ce369e43ea83f06ee645169cee0

on April 27, 2011
at 01:16 AM

weird that they use wheat free soy sauce but then wheat gluten is the first ingredient... WTF?? Yeah this pisses me off. I guess we can vote with our dollars.

B4ec9ce369e43ea83f06ee645169cee0

on April 27, 2011
at 01:14 AM

I am boycotting Whole Foods and their stupid vegetarian agenda! Another GREAT example of it :( Thank goodness we have New Seasons Markets here which are locally owned and better than WF.

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9f9fa49265e03ddd2bf2bba5477a556b

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on April 27, 2011
at 01:18 AM

If Sisson hasn't trademarked "primal," which he hasn't so far as I'm aware, then anyone is free to use it. He could potentially make a legal case against WH based on them trying to leverage his brand or something, but it is doubtful he'd win that. But seriously, who cares? There's really worse things to worry about in the world than some vegan snacks. Most of the crap in most stores is awful. Not worth the cortisol, you know?

A89f9751a97c3082802dc0bcbe4e9208

(13978)

on July 18, 2011
at 05:01 PM

I love that! "Not worth the cortisol!" That should be on a t-shirt!

Fe535c4994ac6176f76e1ff6d29eb08a

(4286)

on July 18, 2011
at 02:50 PM

Also, theyve been around since 2001, so I think if you were gonna jump on them, the time has passed.

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Fe535c4994ac6176f76e1ff6d29eb08a

on July 18, 2011
at 02:47 PM

The very first ingredient is Vital Gluten? Last I checked, there is nothing vital about gluten.

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A65499f2f8c65602881550fe309cd48c

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on April 27, 2011
at 01:28 AM

If I were a businessperson (and i'm not) I think I would start marketing my stuff as "unprocessed" vs. primal/paleo. That way all that crap they put into "their" stuff can in no way be confused with truly primal eating. I work at a "gluten free" bakery...they are the most processed people in the world it seems. I used to think "gluten free" meant some sort of healthy...boy, are my eyes opened to a different reality!

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B3c62d89cd47b7d7209b6a99243d0ded

on July 18, 2011
at 02:01 PM

Irritating, and just another fine reminder to ALWAYS read the label.

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826c5e2bca3547506098db84277d9f12

(166)

on April 27, 2011
at 04:12 AM

Again this is where knowledge is power! Having this knowledge prevents us from buying processed junk. I have been reading labels for years, as I have several food allergies. It is amazing over the years how they've been allowed to change ingredients and details regarding their products to fit the latest trends..."fat free" "lite" "vegan" "Gluten-free" and now "primal". Weight loss is a very big dollar business and they will hitch their marketing wagon onto the latest "trend" anything to make that almighty buck. Know the ingredients, if you can not pronounce it, it is processed. Know the many names for wheat, soy, and sugar. We as consumers must be responsible for ourselves and not leave our health in the hands of these big money companies!

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F79dd33c17d9fbb55cc7e202dfa30e6e

on October 01, 2011
at 05:52 AM

I've always been puzzled at fake foods that are marketed by cannibalizing the delectable reputation of various animal products. Like raw, vegan "cheesecake" that contains no cheese, "tofurky" that contains no turkey, vegan hemp or soy "milks" that contain no milk, " buttery" spreads that contain no butter. Doesn't it occur to folks that there might be a good physiological reason why they crave butter, cream, fat, and meat? Doesn't it at least send up a moral red flag for vegans on Thanksgiving that their tofurkey dinner is unabashedly mimicking meat?

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on October 01, 2011
at 02:57 PM

I was just thinking about that exact thing yesterday. I think if a scientist had to make your food in a lab, it isn't real food.

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Ffc7e0ecad8e8831b528c5d4921377cc

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on July 18, 2011
at 04:55 PM

According to Wikipedia, John Mackey, founder of WF, is a vegan. So, sure, they have a vegetarian agenda. While we may feel that vegetarianism is a foolish concept, people sincerely believe in it. Many of us in Paleo used to. Were we idiots? No, we were misinformed.

WF is a great resource for people with many different eating philosophies. It could not stay in business if it catered to only one group.

Ffc7e0ecad8e8831b528c5d4921377cc

(942)

on July 18, 2011
at 11:38 PM

Thank you but I think you missed my point. Mackey doesn't push vegetarian food because it makes more money. He pushes it because he sincerely believes in vegetarianism so far as I can tell. I see no reason to think that his goal is to capitalize on ignorance.

F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

(4090)

on July 18, 2011
at 05:21 PM

You make a good point! If a vegan/veggie agenda make them more money, they (as business people) will stupid not to pursue it. So complaining is totally futile. Good for them in fact, capitalizing on the ill informed and misguided is certainly not a crime. (oh wait..maybe it should be) In disagreement with that whole load of crap, we (as pursuer's of better health) can only put our money where our mouth is. Luckily I live in a semi-big city, so I have a ton of options.

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F1b39d4f620876330312f4925bd51900

(4090)

on July 18, 2011
at 04:19 PM

They keep these little sticks of hell in the Jerky section at my local health food store! Talk about confusing! Right next to the Ostrich jerky! How rude! They must make them special for those vegetarians that really miss meat...

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66a7ef84ed129bba4ea2dc3aea26f67f

on November 08, 2012
at 09:05 PM

Someone told me that if something advertises itself as paleo or primal, it probably isn't.

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D488b913df0fc9e5172fe79edf37cffd

on November 08, 2012
at 05:49 PM

I tried the Primal Steak Texas BBQ Meatless Vegan Soy.

It had a sweet tase of left out jelly with the texture and taste of cardboard soaked in said jelly. Really quite an experience that my tastes buds rejected on impact!

Thank you, Adam

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Cbec79abb05bc56635153513d67fe20c

on September 29, 2012
at 10:17 PM

Thank god they have vegetarian foods. If you don't like it, don't buy it. But it's great for people like me that can't have meat for religious reasons, or personal diet choice etc. these are a great source of protein for people that can't get it from animal sources. Maybe take a look at what you need rather than anger towards others who are getting what they need. It's ignorant and judgemental.

Cbec79abb05bc56635153513d67fe20c

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on October 01, 2012
at 04:21 PM

I don't eat gluten. I actually only eat the gluten free ones.

Cbec79abb05bc56635153513d67fe20c

(16)

on October 01, 2012
at 04:23 PM

Jainism, Hinduism, and Buddhism.

Cbec79abb05bc56635153513d67fe20c

(16)

on October 01, 2012
at 04:25 PM

Jainism, Hinduism and Buddhism and some Christian groups believe only in vegetarianism. And I don't eat gluten. I only eat the gluten free primal strips. I know that I need protein, so I get it. But I don't believe in eating other animals.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19413)

on September 29, 2012
at 10:50 PM

Wait, so you voluntarily WANT to eat soy and gluten to destroy your health? Really? And you actually believe that you "need" these things? Speaking of ignorant, how exactly is gluten superior to animal protein again? What religion would force ill health upon its followers? Curious meat eaters want to know!

C2450eb7fa11b37473599caf93b461ef

(3225)

on November 09, 2012
at 03:17 PM

I have friends who are Jain, and yes, there are many religions that require their adherents be vegetarian. Instead of lambasting them, perhaps educating them to the healthiest way to feed their bodies while remaining true to their faith would be a more compassionate route.

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