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Hydrogenated Coconut Fat

Commented on November 30, 2013
Created November 29, 2013 at 3:40 PM

A little background:

I started powerlifting a few months ago and getting those calories ain't easy. I would like to find some more fast sources of good fats. Adding some butter and cottage cheese did not really work, even those give me some acne and bad feelings in stomach, so no GOMAD for me.

So what is this hydrogenated coconut fat stuff?

I can find it pretty in 500g packs like coconut butter. 100% monosaturated fat. I would choose this instead of coconut oil because it is like 3x cheeper, but I cannot find any good info about the differences. Should I throw it out and look for something else? Could it be used for high temperature cooking or raw with some salad?

PS

Any tips for getting a lot of macros without getting inflamed from dairy, grains and O6 fats are welcome. Eating the same stuff all the time in big quantities gets pretty boring.

40b242249739aace3d136d1e7f120ae7

on November 30, 2013
at 02:25 AM

Refined coconut (pure fat, less coconut proteins) should be less allergenic but if they're difficult to find or too pricey, try getting calories elsewhere. I am still sure animal fats offer better calories and nutrients and would rather stick to that. Whatever, your choice.

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on November 30, 2013
at 02:21 AM

Coconut oil's chemistry is unique. That's my point. Your body does recognize (or doesn't recognize) substances and ratios it never had to deal with throughout its recent ancestral history. That's why most Asians can't tolerate milk but tolerate starches, a lot of Europeans react to tropical fruits and peanuts, and blacks don't do so hot on wheat. Of course these foods are neolithic but people of different continents are better adapted to their neolithic foods. Also, you did not answer my question. Was the butter grass-fed or not? It makes a difference, for me it did.

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on November 30, 2013
at 12:45 AM

Your body doesn't recognize the origin of the location of a food. It recognizes macronutrients.

Traditional European diets are quite heavy on the Saturated and Mono fats.

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on November 30, 2013
at 12:15 AM

where do you live. someone may know where to go for coconut products in your location

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on November 29, 2013
at 09:57 PM

Fatty meats still have a lot of protein and I usually end up consuming too much protein that way. I can get very good natural pork, but contains a lot of O6. With so pure fats I think it is more about chemistry than some place of origin. There is really no way to measure how adapted we are to something without trying it. We all lived in Africa at least until 70'000 years ago. And there is no logical reason to think that I should be more adapted to some cultered butter (considering I do do not tolerate regular butter) than coconut.

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on November 29, 2013
at 09:13 PM

Only stuff I could find here was at least 2 times more expensive (and average income level here is like 4 times smaller than is the US). There is really like 1-2 brands in the biggest stores. Could try buying something online, but that might not be worth the effort. Thanks for the info.

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on November 29, 2013
at 09:02 PM

I can get 16oz at Trader Joe's for about $6.

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on November 30, 2013
at 01:01 AM

While you should avoid hydrogenated coconut fat, refined non-hydrogenated coconut fat is perfectly safe to use. Sometimes it's even safer as some people are allergic to unrefined coconut oil. It's significantly cheaper than the virgin coconut oils.

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on November 30, 2013
at 12:06 AM

I got my coconut oil at Costco. 54 oz/16$. Is there one in your area? They have high quality coconut oil, EVOO, kerrygold gfed butter, and some awesome cheeses if you do dairy. Consider buying bone-in cuts of meat and then using the scraps to make broth; then eat the fat off the top

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on November 29, 2013
at 09:32 PM

Why not try cultured butter, goat butter, goat cheese, or just eat more fatty meats? Were the butters you ate grass fed by chance? I don't see the logic in thinking that it's a good idea for a European to eat so much of something that comes from the tropics. Coconut is considered good but it has its vices too, especially if your ancestors did not evolve on it.

D371623b5671d11fa678b201ff23442b

on November 30, 2013
at 12:45 AM

Your body doesn't recognize the origin of the location of a food. It recognizes macronutrients.

Traditional European diets are quite heavy on the Saturated and Mono fats.

40b242249739aace3d136d1e7f120ae7

on November 30, 2013
at 02:25 AM

Refined coconut (pure fat, less coconut proteins) should be less allergenic but if they're difficult to find or too pricey, try getting calories elsewhere. I am still sure animal fats offer better calories and nutrients and would rather stick to that. Whatever, your choice.

30fe014b1e0ea9a3de2875706ba477e6

(135)

on November 29, 2013
at 09:57 PM

Fatty meats still have a lot of protein and I usually end up consuming too much protein that way. I can get very good natural pork, but contains a lot of O6. With so pure fats I think it is more about chemistry than some place of origin. There is really no way to measure how adapted we are to something without trying it. We all lived in Africa at least until 70'000 years ago. And there is no logical reason to think that I should be more adapted to some cultered butter (considering I do do not tolerate regular butter) than coconut.

40b242249739aace3d136d1e7f120ae7

on November 30, 2013
at 02:21 AM

Coconut oil's chemistry is unique. That's my point. Your body does recognize (or doesn't recognize) substances and ratios it never had to deal with throughout its recent ancestral history. That's why most Asians can't tolerate milk but tolerate starches, a lot of Europeans react to tropical fruits and peanuts, and blacks don't do so hot on wheat. Of course these foods are neolithic but people of different continents are better adapted to their neolithic foods. Also, you did not answer my question. Was the butter grass-fed or not? It makes a difference, for me it did.

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30fe014b1e0ea9a3de2875706ba477e6

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on November 29, 2013
at 06:53 PM

Thanks for the response.

I thought that something was wrong there. So out of the window it goes (with embarrased look after thinking that I knew something about nutrition).

It just gets frustrating that it is almost impossible to find some healthy fats in almost 1'000'000 people city in Europe. Coconut is so expensive and rare here that I probably will stick with some butter and try to get some more animal fats. Cannot get everything you want.

BTW - how much does OKish coconut oil cost where You live?

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on November 29, 2013
at 09:02 PM

I can get 16oz at Trader Joe's for about $6.

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782d92f4127823bdfb2ddfcbcf961d0e

on November 29, 2013
at 06:26 PM

Hydrogenated oils = evil trans fats! You are much better off with virgin coconut oil. It is mostly saturated fat. I suppose you could use refined coconut oil if you know how it was processed (not hydrogenated or with solvents!). Refined has less of a coconut taste and a higher smoking point, so it's better for cooking. However, I just use virgin coconut oil.

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