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who's okay with white potatoes?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created January 12, 2012 at 1:57 PM

So, I'm noticing there are a lot of pro-potato folks up here... Who is pro-white potato or not, and why or why not?

My take on white potatoes is that they are toxic. They contain enzyme blockers, lectins, and a family of toxins call glycoalkaloids that are not destroyed by cooking. Plus, they are just a puff of very nutrient-low carbohydrates. The baked potato boasts a GI higher than table sugar. Gross!

Dfada6fe4982ab3b7557172f20632da8

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on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

Some might say the relied on them too much...

Cc69a51b427eaad36251cce9dcca4d3a

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on April 12, 2013
at 04:11 AM

i think it sthe fructose. this includes yams/sweet potatoes and most fruits/vegs

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(253)

on August 15, 2012
at 07:50 PM

The people of the central Andes in Peru, Bolivia, and Ecuador have subsisted on potatoes as a dietary staple for over 5000 years. They are known for their long life expectancy.

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on August 15, 2012
at 07:22 PM

Why do I keep reading this as a song? Who's okay with white po-tatoes, I'M OKAY WITH WHITE PO-TAAAATOES!

F659e781783af9f3586063a75a2d0c74

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on August 14, 2012
at 09:07 PM

Yes, a recipe for sweet potato curry, please!

F659e781783af9f3586063a75a2d0c74

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on August 14, 2012
at 09:04 PM

I haven't seen any ducks for sale in my local supermarkets (Bay Area, California). Where are they available? Asian markets, maybe?

F659e781783af9f3586063a75a2d0c74

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on August 14, 2012
at 08:51 PM

What are your favorite varieties? I've started to grow my own, to make sure they are organic and pesticide-free, so I'm not limited by what is available in the supermarket (except for the initial planting). So far, the tastiest ones have been the red potatoes.

F694fc245d03b64d6936ddb29f4c9306

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on July 31, 2012
at 02:31 PM

Not that this is relevant, but the idiomatic "two bits" that people throw in is $0.25, not $0.02. Fun fact!

3d0093dd591d9b88db74d7bba970dea0

(222)

on July 31, 2012
at 02:14 PM

I've found that gas like that can be a low stomach acid issue.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on June 03, 2012
at 06:55 AM

You can also get duck fat by the bucket on Amazon.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on June 03, 2012
at 06:50 AM

And much less farty than inulin rich foods like jicama, sunchokes, and chicory.

5ef574d7893bc816ec52e04139e9bc09

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on May 13, 2012
at 10:20 PM

Then again, I'm ok with some grains, seed oils, and fructose as well.

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on May 13, 2012
at 06:38 PM

Nance, glad that your hut is now healed and you no longer have issues with the whites :)

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on May 13, 2012
at 06:37 PM

"There are hundreds of different lectins. Most of them are not problematic" <---- This, plus the fact that heat (i.e. cooking) deactivates many lectins and there is some evidence suggesting that lectins can actually be beneficial at low levels...http://www.jbiomedsci.com/content/16/1/10

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on February 19, 2012
at 01:44 PM

Don't eat the skin, and enjoy :). If your aim is vlc then don't eat them otherwise I would definitely not exclude them for a good source of starch, vit c, potassium, magnesium, and many more.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on February 18, 2012
at 04:03 PM

ROB, I 100% agree with this. I was at my healthiest ever on a diet with practically only potatoes and sunflower oil (= potato chips and french fries). I tried to do it again last year but then I got hives. I was eating the skin of potatoes and no fat, so that might be a stupid attempt. I'm still afraid of white potatoes, but when school ends I'm definitely gonna experiment (cuz then I don't care if I have bad skin, nobody cares anyways :) ).

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on February 18, 2012
at 03:55 PM

Sweet potatoes give me stomach aches and bloating if I eat more than half a sweet potato.

C4f1a0c70c4e0dea507c2e346c036bbd

on February 18, 2012
at 03:11 PM

DO tell about these sweet potatoe curries. Recipe?

627cf3f5d1ddfb4c2f4c96169420f55f

(1621)

on February 01, 2012
at 02:36 AM

I agree. They have more nutrition then what most paleo folks give them credit for. If you look passed the Vitamin A, then one can argue that white potatoes are more nutrient dense compared to sweet potatoes. Ditch the skin and bake or boil them. This will destroy most of the problems. All plant foods have lectins and such. White potatoes are low on the list compared to the grains and legumes that we eat. If you avoid them sweet. If you eat them sweet!

Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on January 14, 2012
at 05:25 PM

My recommendation, if you're going to invest in a lovely ducky feathered friend, is roast so the meat is optimum and then store the rendered fat. If you've never done one, this is an easy recipe: http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/Crisp-Roast-Duck-235744 read the comments and let that help you tailor the recipe to what you would like to do. RE: the fat, pour what is left in the pan at the end into a container that will allow you to take it off the top once cool :) Enjoy!

742ff8ba4ff55e84593ede14ac1c3cab

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on January 13, 2012
at 09:18 PM

Not yet, but I am being more cautious with potatoes, because of potential leaky gut complications.

Dfada6fe4982ab3b7557172f20632da8

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on January 13, 2012
at 04:18 PM

To be honest, so far at least, pretty much everything I've eaten I've not died from. In fact I'm going to stick my neck out and so absolutely everything I've ever eaten hasn't killed me. Yet.

Cc7381bd787721575ea9198048132adb

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on January 13, 2012
at 02:57 AM

That's quite the compliment, thanks Coon.

F3fc2e0a9577e7e481a387d917904d1e

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on January 13, 2012
at 01:02 AM

I assume you had skin issues and autoimmune problems, then... Did they resolve after you stopped eating them?

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on January 13, 2012
at 12:05 AM

GI is meaningless

Be1dbd31e4a3fccd4394494aa5db256d

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on January 13, 2012
at 12:04 AM

You be right and representing the post that I would have made.

A942dbc90fe12f7f90744a68f9f223e2

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on January 12, 2012
at 11:50 PM

+1! My diet in a nutshell

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on January 12, 2012
at 08:53 PM

@Nance: this seems like a GREAT tip. I tried capturing the fat that rendered from roasting duck, and it always tastes oxidized by the time the duck is finished. Letting it render out in a slow cooker, where the temp never gets above boiling, seems really smart!

76f3ead3aa977d876bcf3331d35a36e9

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on January 12, 2012
at 06:55 PM

Sweet potatoes gas me up. Raffinose?

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on January 12, 2012
at 06:51 PM

I yam what I yam.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on January 12, 2012
at 06:43 PM

But sugar is the devil! INSULIN! ACK!

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on January 12, 2012
at 06:18 PM

"Very nutrient-low" is way off. Try again.

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

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on January 12, 2012
at 06:00 PM

Sweet potatoes make my tongue itch.

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

(9647)

on January 12, 2012
at 05:59 PM

Look out for the Great Coconut and Bacon Famine.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on January 12, 2012
at 05:59 PM

For clarification, the excess fat comes off the top of the slow-cooked part after chilling. The sauteed fat from the skin is used up by the time I cook all the meat and vegetables.

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

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on January 12, 2012
at 05:58 PM

My favorite nutrient in potatoes: glucose.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on January 12, 2012
at 05:58 PM

@AnnaA, I start with the whole duck. I cut it in pieces and simmer; the broth and carcass will go into the slow-cooker. I render the skin by slow-frying then saute the meat (chunked) in the fat. I always have some excess fat that I use up in other cooking.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on January 12, 2012
at 05:54 PM

Now that my hut is healed at least partially I don't have any trouble with either white or sweet potatoes although they aren't staples. I used to have great issues with the whites.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on January 12, 2012
at 05:19 PM

@Dave... good point, think of all the paleo folk who are so preoccupied with coconut and bacon. ;)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on January 12, 2012
at 05:10 PM

Where do I get duck fat? Do I need to start with the whole duck?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on January 12, 2012
at 05:08 PM

Yes Dave- you automatically double your money every time.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on January 12, 2012
at 05:07 PM

Lucky you Carl_Stawicki!

E2b72f1912f777917d8ee6b7fba43c26

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on January 12, 2012
at 04:04 PM

I'm a bit worried that solanine can be detected in the blood stream after eating potatoes - and thats generally not a desirable condition. http://het.sagepub.com/content/4/2/187.short

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

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on January 12, 2012
at 04:04 PM

no problem here

Ef9f83cb4e1826261a44c173f733789e

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on January 12, 2012
at 03:54 PM

I get sweet potato fries if they're available. Iron Chef Michael Symon has a few restaurants around here that make fries and onion rings in lard.

Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on January 12, 2012
at 03:33 PM

Dude - don't wait, do them at home! Get the teeny baby potatoes, rub in duck fat sprinkle with coarse salt, roast. Holy hell, pure deliciousness!

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on January 12, 2012
at 03:33 PM

@PP - Have we changed your mind yet?

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on January 12, 2012
at 03:32 PM

Have we changed your mind yet?

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on January 12, 2012
at 03:31 PM

Why is it a penny for your thoughts and yet people are always throwing in their two cents? Is there a business opportunity in that?

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on January 12, 2012
at 03:29 PM

There are hundreds of different lectins. Most of them are not problematic. Wheat germ agglutinin seems particularly nasty.

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on January 12, 2012
at 03:26 PM

Chris Masterjohn posted that he has trouble with sweet potatoes. He blamed it on excessive oxaloacetate IIRC.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

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on January 12, 2012
at 03:26 PM

Important to note that potatoes are not sweet potatoes (and sweet potatoes are not yams). Very different plants.

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on January 12, 2012
at 03:24 PM

Yeah, it's probably not a good idea to be so limited in your food options.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on January 12, 2012
at 02:57 PM

Yam fries are even better.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on January 12, 2012
at 02:57 PM

Try cooking your own fries in lard instead of soy or whatever cheap oil restaurants do- much better!

Dfada6fe4982ab3b7557172f20632da8

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on January 12, 2012
at 02:43 PM

Carbs and fat? It's the brain's jackpot. Any HG who could find a stash of fries once a week would be king. It's all about context.

Dfada6fe4982ab3b7557172f20632da8

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on January 12, 2012
at 02:39 PM

I think the difficulty is that different foods can 'feel good' in different ways. Learning to appreciate the enjoyment of good simple food and being able to make that choice mroe often than not is a key part of controlling weight for some people.

Dfada6fe4982ab3b7557172f20632da8

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on January 12, 2012
at 02:35 PM

Well that depends how much you're eating.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on January 12, 2012
at 02:32 PM

I tried eating potatoes. Didn't work. Maybe it's just because I fear them so much... I might tolerate them OK if I add a lot of fat to them.

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on January 12, 2012
at 02:29 PM

Ahhhhh... i remember those days when i felt the same way...

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

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on January 12, 2012
at 02:19 PM

"does every bite really need to be as nutrient dense as possible?" THIS!!

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on January 12, 2012
at 02:15 PM

And the Irish practically subsisted on them without ill effects. They tended to peel them...

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4e184df9c1ed38f61febc5d6cf031921

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on January 12, 2012
at 02:13 PM

Lots of vitamin C, folate, niacin, B6, magnesium, potassium, phosphorus, maganese, reasonable supply of vitamin K - why do you think they are just nutrient low carbs?

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/2551/2

I avoided them for 18 months believing they were just as you described them - then re-introduced them six to eight months ago and ongoing digestive problems eased quite a lot. Also, my energy levels freely improved. I eat potatoes several times a week now, and white rice other days.

I find I do better on a not VLC diet - and I do enjoy my roast potatoes as much as anything I eat!

Dfada6fe4982ab3b7557172f20632da8

(5332)

on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

Some might say the relied on them too much...

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

(9647)

on January 12, 2012
at 05:59 PM

Look out for the Great Coconut and Bacon Famine.

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on January 12, 2012
at 02:15 PM

And the Irish practically subsisted on them without ill effects. They tended to peel them...

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on January 12, 2012
at 05:19 PM

@Dave... good point, think of all the paleo folk who are so preoccupied with coconut and bacon. ;)

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on January 12, 2012
at 03:24 PM

Yeah, it's probably not a good idea to be so limited in your food options.

627cf3f5d1ddfb4c2f4c96169420f55f

(1621)

on February 01, 2012
at 02:36 AM

I agree. They have more nutrition then what most paleo folks give them credit for. If you look passed the Vitamin A, then one can argue that white potatoes are more nutrient dense compared to sweet potatoes. Ditch the skin and bake or boil them. This will destroy most of the problems. All plant foods have lectins and such. White potatoes are low on the list compared to the grains and legumes that we eat. If you avoid them sweet. If you eat them sweet!

E8bf28bd28f5be7c34d4a1a97e7c1353

(253)

on August 15, 2012
at 07:50 PM

The people of the central Andes in Peru, Bolivia, and Ecuador have subsisted on potatoes as a dietary staple for over 5000 years. They are known for their long life expectancy.

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Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on January 12, 2012
at 03:21 PM

I eat both sweet potatoes and regular tubers on a daily basis. Sweets in the morning and the regular at night - sometimes I'll combine them. Well, not regular potatoes as I only purchase heirloom coloured flesh varieties, tuber snob!, but evening is when they go in. They are a good source of vitamin B6, vitamin c, copper, potassium, manganese, antioxidants, fiber. And more!

IMO the whole issue always seems to flutter about solanine, which also exists in eggplant, tomatoes, peppers. Just peel if you're worried.

With much tinkering I have found that at my activity level tubers and sweet potatoes work best for me. Combined with protein and loads of leafy greens, as well as some fruit, my body is working at an optimum level. VLC and LC do not work for me, and the starchy buddies have provided a most excellent platform for muscle growth, being fast on my feet, yet still allowing me to stay lean.

Every body is different. Do what works for you. And like @Matt, I'm happy to enjoy your share.

A942dbc90fe12f7f90744a68f9f223e2

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on January 12, 2012
at 11:50 PM

+1! My diet in a nutshell

F659e781783af9f3586063a75a2d0c74

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on August 14, 2012
at 08:51 PM

What are your favorite varieties? I've started to grow my own, to make sure they are organic and pesticide-free, so I'm not limited by what is available in the supermarket (except for the initial planting). So far, the tastiest ones have been the red potatoes.

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on January 12, 2012
at 02:07 PM

I eat them. I don't die, I feel and perform to my expectations and beyond. They're not a staple, but hardly un-paleo. Enzyme inhibitors, lectins, toxins, etc are common to most all plants, so not really a strike against white potatoes. Yes, they're starchy, but they do have more nutrition that you're seemingly willing to give them credit for. Yes, they're not powerhouses of nutrition, but does every bite really need to be as nutrient dense as possible?

If you don't want to eat them, fine with me. More potatoes for me then!

Dfada6fe4982ab3b7557172f20632da8

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on January 12, 2012
at 02:35 PM

Well that depends how much you're eating.

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

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on January 12, 2012
at 05:58 PM

My favorite nutrient in potatoes: glucose.

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

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on January 12, 2012
at 02:19 PM

"does every bite really need to be as nutrient dense as possible?" THIS!!

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on January 12, 2012
at 06:43 PM

But sugar is the devil! INSULIN! ACK!

Dfada6fe4982ab3b7557172f20632da8

(5332)

on January 13, 2012
at 04:18 PM

To be honest, so far at least, pretty much everything I've eaten I've not died from. In fact I'm going to stick my neck out and so absolutely everything I've ever eaten hasn't killed me. Yet.

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on January 12, 2012
at 02:42 PM

Lectins are in meat too. Specific lectins are a problem (such as peanut agglutinin in peanuts) not lectins as a whole. Also, most of the glycoalkaloids are avoided if you peel them. As other people have pointed out, potatoes are rather nutrient dense, not nutrient poor. Healthy cultures have relied on potatoes for many years.

I am pro potatoes/sweet potatoes because I don't do well with a small amount of carbs. They have lots of nutrients (unlike white rice) and have sustained many healthy cultures throughout the world. If you eat carbs, they're pretty innocuous and don't require much preparation unlike grains and legumes.

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on January 12, 2012
at 03:29 PM

There are hundreds of different lectins. Most of them are not problematic. Wheat germ agglutinin seems particularly nasty.

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on May 13, 2012
at 06:37 PM

"There are hundreds of different lectins. Most of them are not problematic" <---- This, plus the fact that heat (i.e. cooking) deactivates many lectins and there is some evidence suggesting that lectins can actually be beneficial at low levels...http://www.jbiomedsci.com/content/16/1/10

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on January 12, 2012
at 02:27 PM

What are they very low nutrient compared to? My guess is the people who always claim this have obviously never looked at nutritiondata.com.

+1 on using a bunch of random words you hardly understand to fear monger us to not eat potatoes :)

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on January 12, 2012
at 02:27 PM

white potatoes and i have been dating for awhile. i tried to break up but i can't get em out of my head. i'm thinking about popping the question...

another question is, does anyone else get gut irritation from yams and sweet potatoes? i do.

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

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on January 12, 2012
at 06:00 PM

Sweet potatoes make my tongue itch.

76f3ead3aa977d876bcf3331d35a36e9

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on January 12, 2012
at 06:55 PM

Sweet potatoes gas me up. Raffinose?

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on January 12, 2012
at 03:26 PM

Chris Masterjohn posted that he has trouble with sweet potatoes. He blamed it on excessive oxaloacetate IIRC.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on January 12, 2012
at 05:54 PM

Now that my hut is healed at least partially I don't have any trouble with either white or sweet potatoes although they aren't staples. I used to have great issues with the whites.

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on January 12, 2012
at 04:04 PM

no problem here

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on February 18, 2012
at 03:55 PM

Sweet potatoes give me stomach aches and bloating if I eat more than half a sweet potato.

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on May 13, 2012
at 06:38 PM

Nance, glad that your hut is now healed and you no longer have issues with the whites :)

Cc69a51b427eaad36251cce9dcca4d3a

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on April 12, 2013
at 04:11 AM

i think it sthe fructose. this includes yams/sweet potatoes and most fruits/vegs

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on January 12, 2012
at 02:57 PM

The bad crap is in the skin. Skin your potatoes before you eat them. I love potatoes of all races. I mean colors.

If you're that worried about them, slow cook them with meat, bones, veggies and apple cider vinegar as stew.

They're pretty great for workout recovery too, those glycogen stores will fill up fast with white taters.

I can see them as problematic for diabetics and the insulin resistant but I can't see why they'd be bad for a semi-active person.

Just my couple pennies.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on January 12, 2012
at 05:08 PM

Yes Dave- you automatically double your money every time.

Be1dbd31e4a3fccd4394494aa5db256d

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on January 13, 2012
at 12:04 AM

You be right and representing the post that I would have made.

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on January 12, 2012
at 03:31 PM

Why is it a penny for your thoughts and yet people are always throwing in their two cents? Is there a business opportunity in that?

Cc7381bd787721575ea9198048132adb

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on January 13, 2012
at 02:57 AM

That's quite the compliment, thanks Coon.

F694fc245d03b64d6936ddb29f4c9306

(2613)

on July 31, 2012
at 02:31 PM

Not that this is relevant, but the idiomatic "two bits" that people throw in is $0.25, not $0.02. Fun fact!

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A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

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on January 12, 2012
at 02:11 PM

Most of the toxins are in or near the skin. Peeling them is recommended. It's not fair to compare a starch, which is mostly glucose, to table sugar, which is half glucose and half fructose. The fructose has no effect on blood glucose/insulin, but has other negative impacts on the liver.

White potatoes are a reasonably safe starch if prepared properly. I wouldn't reccommend them for anyone who is insulin resistant. I don't eat them very much, since I am diabetic. But for someone who need a few more carbs, they are not evilz.

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7cab5a1f1fd48c3cc4938ab824fdb52e

on January 12, 2012
at 03:01 PM

I just found out there is a restaraunt near me that serves DuckFat Fries.

I can't wait.

A7768b6c6be7f5d6acc76e5efa66464c

on January 12, 2012
at 08:53 PM

@Nance: this seems like a GREAT tip. I tried capturing the fat that rendered from roasting duck, and it always tastes oxidized by the time the duck is finished. Letting it render out in a slow cooker, where the temp never gets above boiling, seems really smart!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on January 12, 2012
at 05:10 PM

Where do I get duck fat? Do I need to start with the whole duck?

Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on January 12, 2012
at 03:33 PM

Dude - don't wait, do them at home! Get the teeny baby potatoes, rub in duck fat sprinkle with coarse salt, roast. Holy hell, pure deliciousness!

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on January 12, 2012
at 05:58 PM

@AnnaA, I start with the whole duck. I cut it in pieces and simmer; the broth and carcass will go into the slow-cooker. I render the skin by slow-frying then saute the meat (chunked) in the fat. I always have some excess fat that I use up in other cooking.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on January 12, 2012
at 05:59 PM

For clarification, the excess fat comes off the top of the slow-cooked part after chilling. The sauteed fat from the skin is used up by the time I cook all the meat and vegetables.

Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on January 14, 2012
at 05:25 PM

My recommendation, if you're going to invest in a lovely ducky feathered friend, is roast so the meat is optimum and then store the rendered fat. If you've never done one, this is an easy recipe: http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/Crisp-Roast-Duck-235744 read the comments and let that help you tailor the recipe to what you would like to do. RE: the fat, pour what is left in the pan at the end into a container that will allow you to take it off the top once cool :) Enjoy!

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on June 03, 2012
at 06:55 AM

You can also get duck fat by the bucket on Amazon.

F659e781783af9f3586063a75a2d0c74

(0)

on August 14, 2012
at 09:04 PM

I haven't seen any ducks for sale in my local supermarkets (Bay Area, California). Where are they available? Asian markets, maybe?

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on February 18, 2012
at 01:11 PM

There's a great 3 part article on potatoes on Stephan Guyanet's site here:

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2010/09/potatoes-and-human-health-part-i.html

I foolishly avoided spuds for a couple of years, very glad to have them back in the diet, certainly makes eating out a lot easier and brings the food bills down :)

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Ca1150430b1904659742ce2cad621c7d

(12540)

on January 12, 2012
at 05:57 PM

They're not a staple in my diet, but with some healthy fats, I have no problem with them. They're a ROOT, after all -- and what could be more ancestral than digging up some yummy roots and throwing them on the fire or in a stew-pot? Virtually every food out there, in gross quantities contains some kind of toxin. It's how they protect themselves so they can re-produce. I don't eat grains because the toxins in grains (and seeds and nuts, in my case -- with the noteable exceptions of pine-nuts, pistachios, macadamias, and cashews) totally mess with my body. Potatoes don't do that... especially if I cook them in animal fat or serve them with animal fat and protein. So I eat potatoes, on occasion, prepared in ways that my body likes.

I like sweet potatoes better than white potatoes. They are more colorful, taste better with butter or bacon fat, can be used in everything from mashes to hashes to curries and stews... but white potatoes have their place in my ancestral nourishment.

For those who asked -- here's my recipe for Sweet Potato Curry

  • 2 to 3 large sweet potatoes, peeled, quartered length-wise, and sliced into 1/4" slices
  • 1 lb meat (what I use depends on what I have on hand at any given time)
  • 2 cups bone broth
  • 1/2 cup Hatch green chilis (we like the HOT ones... but you can use mild if you prefer)
  • 1 white onion, chopped coarsely
  • 2 tablespoons ground cumin
  • 2 tablespoons ground coriander
  • 2 teaspoons ground turmeric
  • 1/2 teaspoon to 2 tablespoons crushed red pepper flakes
  • 1/2 teaspoon mustard seed
  • 1/2 teaspoon ground ginger (optional)
  • 1/2 teaspoon sea salt OR 2 tablespoons coconut aminos
  • 2 tablespoons ghee
  • 1 to 2 cups cauliflower florets

Heat a large cast-iron dutch oven until hot. Add ghee and curry spices, and cook, stirring, for about 30 seconds. Toss in onions and meat, and cook until meat is seared. Add sweet potatoes, cauliflower, Hatch chilis (or any other chili pepper--or even bell pepper), bone broth, and sea salt. Let simmer for 30 minutes. Open and pour coconut milk into mixture. Stir well, and allow to simmer for at LEAST another 30 minutes. Longer is better on this one, and if you cook a day ahead, chill and re-heat, that's even more scrumptious!

We eat this as a "stoop" -- thicker than a soup, but thinner than a stew. You could serve it over rice if you wished. We don't -- we'd rather use a spoon and not have the flavor diluted with rice winks.

This re-heats magnificently, so don't let the quantities throw you. I make it on Sunday, and we eat it for lunch for the week (usually alternating with my chipotle chili taco beef over leafy greens). Like most potato meals, though, it doesn't freeze well. The potato texture will change and, at least for me, the texture changes are... not great. One alternative we've found that DOES work if I know I'm going to have to freeze is making the curry without the potatoes in it, then preparing the potatoes separately as WHIPPED MASHED SWEET POTATOES, which DO freeze well -- then thawing both pieces together and serving the curry over the mashed sweet potatoes!

C4f1a0c70c4e0dea507c2e346c036bbd

on February 18, 2012
at 03:11 PM

DO tell about these sweet potatoe curries. Recipe?

F659e781783af9f3586063a75a2d0c74

(0)

on August 14, 2012
at 09:07 PM

Yes, a recipe for sweet potato curry, please!

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1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

on May 13, 2012
at 01:41 PM

I do fine with potatoes. They're my favorite form of starch/ They are full of vitamins and minerals.
They are easy to digest. I am thinking that if I were Irish I'd be insulted by this question.

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273729a18d2f18903815d2644a4d64de

(1683)

on January 12, 2012
at 02:19 PM

Personally, I LOVE sweet potatoes and will choose them over white potatoes (did this even before Paleo)...but sometimes, mostly during fall with college FB, we get free team meals after practices and they have roasted white potatoes doused with butter and garlic <3 ...ill usually have a small bit because they taste good. this occurs very infrequently though. i hardly eat starchy things.

Im constantly fighting with myself over what to and what not to eat because Im trying to lose fat, but what everyone says (and one of the things Ive started to adopt) is eat what tastes good/makes you feel good...so by all means, if you want a loaded baked potato with bacon and grassfed cheese and sour cream GO FOR IT...it wont kill you every now and then

Dfada6fe4982ab3b7557172f20632da8

(5332)

on January 12, 2012
at 02:39 PM

I think the difficulty is that different foods can 'feel good' in different ways. Learning to appreciate the enjoyment of good simple food and being able to make that choice mroe often than not is a key part of controlling weight for some people.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on January 12, 2012
at 03:26 PM

Important to note that potatoes are not sweet potatoes (and sweet potatoes are not yams). Very different plants.

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on January 12, 2012
at 06:51 PM

I yam what I yam.

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2372f1b8d53a0bed2beaa7e93c2d532e

on July 31, 2012
at 02:12 AM

Everyone seems to always dance around the question. Do white potatoes contain raffinose or not? I desperately need this question directly answered. Thank you.

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246ebf68e35743f62e5e187891b9cba0

(21420)

on May 13, 2012
at 08:01 PM

Most starches give me the fartsies, even white rice and white potato.

I still eat them when I'm taking a break from low carb, and as long as I cook them myself (don't eat them from a restaurant where they are cooked in God-knows-what oil) I'm usually ok with a little tootage, as long as my gut doesn't get so inflamed that I'm physically ill.

Your description though isn't entirely accurate. While from a nutrient perspective, I prefer sweet potatoes, potatoes are far from being nutritionally devoid, and while yes, if you are low carb they won't do you any weightloss favors, if you are not low-carb, enjoy!

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(222)

on July 31, 2012
at 02:14 PM

I've found that gas like that can be a low stomach acid issue.

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Ef9f83cb4e1826261a44c173f733789e

on January 12, 2012
at 02:33 PM

I eat them on a rare occasions. French fries really hit the spot sometimes, but I'm not sure why. I feel bad afterwords, similar to how I would feel after pasta or pizza.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on January 12, 2012
at 02:57 PM

Try cooking your own fries in lard instead of soy or whatever cheap oil restaurants do- much better!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on January 12, 2012
at 02:57 PM

Yam fries are even better.

Dfada6fe4982ab3b7557172f20632da8

(5332)

on January 12, 2012
at 02:43 PM

Carbs and fat? It's the brain's jackpot. Any HG who could find a stash of fries once a week would be king. It's all about context.

Ef9f83cb4e1826261a44c173f733789e

(13635)

on January 12, 2012
at 03:54 PM

I get sweet potato fries if they're available. Iron Chef Michael Symon has a few restaurants around here that make fries and onion rings in lard.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on January 12, 2012
at 05:07 PM

Lucky you Carl_Stawicki!

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6473dcb4b0e9b839615d650c168d2747

(638)

on July 31, 2012
at 10:50 AM

I don't buy them but if I'm eating out and they come with a steak, I'll have 'em. I treat them like white rice, aka a "half-cheat" that probably isn't gonna kill me. From a scale of Cinnabon to Sirloin, they're probably not so bad.

1
Bfa1c9eacfc94a1b62f3a39b574480c6

(3700)

on May 14, 2012
at 05:08 AM

Touch of salt, touch of pepper.

Olive oil? Duck fat? I'm good to go.

1
870fdea50f2a9f1cd2890c8e22549300

(2056)

on May 13, 2012
at 11:39 PM

No one has addressed the issue of resistant starches in this thread yet? Then I suppose I have to.

Cooked, then cooled white potatoes are one of the classes of so-called "resistant starches" that act as prebiotics (although it's classed as an "RS3" and not the more-studied "RS2").

So, not necessarily so bad for you.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on June 03, 2012
at 06:50 AM

And much less farty than inulin rich foods like jicama, sunchokes, and chicory.

1
5ef574d7893bc816ec52e04139e9bc09

(6097)

on May 13, 2012
at 10:19 PM

I am .

5ef574d7893bc816ec52e04139e9bc09

(6097)

on May 13, 2012
at 10:20 PM

Then again, I'm ok with some grains, seed oils, and fructose as well.

1
510bdda8988ed0d4b0ec0b738b4edb73

(20898)

on February 19, 2012
at 02:07 AM

After a year of strict Paleo I started adding things back in slowly to see their affect on me. I do potatoes. Especially when I have a hard workout. It's a great source of starch. I cook them long and slow to breakdown as much of the bad stuff as I can. I do perfectly fine with them so I don't worry about it. But I can see why more sensitive people would have to eliminate them.

1
742ff8ba4ff55e84593ede14ac1c3cab

(3536)

on January 12, 2012
at 10:31 PM

I use to consume quite a few. I went through a small phase where I was consuming about 3-4 lbs of only potatoes, but I stopped because of various articles stating that people with skin issues and autoimmune problems shouldn't consume them. So alas, now I am only consuming sweet potatoes, taro, green plantain and various fruits.

I'll tell you one thing though, I had the best body comp I have ever had when I was consuming a high "white potato" diet. I have never been so muscular looking in my life. Sadly other starches just don't give me the same effect.

742ff8ba4ff55e84593ede14ac1c3cab

(3536)

on January 13, 2012
at 09:18 PM

Not yet, but I am being more cautious with potatoes, because of potential leaky gut complications.

F3fc2e0a9577e7e481a387d917904d1e

(1070)

on January 13, 2012
at 01:02 AM

I assume you had skin issues and autoimmune problems, then... Did they resolve after you stopped eating them?

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on February 18, 2012
at 04:03 PM

ROB, I 100% agree with this. I was at my healthiest ever on a diet with practically only potatoes and sunflower oil (= potato chips and french fries). I tried to do it again last year but then I got hives. I was eating the skin of potatoes and no fat, so that might be a stupid attempt. I'm still afraid of white potatoes, but when school ends I'm definitely gonna experiment (cuz then I don't care if I have bad skin, nobody cares anyways :) ).

1
3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on January 12, 2012
at 04:59 PM

Little starchy for my taste, so if I actually liked em at around 40g carbs or so a tator and a goodly amount of fat and some exercise one-two potatos aren't going to put me too far from my target for carbs/day. I like sweet potatoes, and different yams better if I'm gonna bother with tubers at all though.

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Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on January 12, 2012
at 03:30 PM

Having gone paleo for the last couple years, I'm more aware of potatoes, but I do not avoid small amounts of them when eating out (e.g. ~1/4 chopped cup or so in stew or non-cream chowder with some potatoes is fine by me).

Before that, I actually maintained avoidance of potatoes for about 6 years. In the long journey of trying to discover what foods worked for me, I realized that (for whatever reason) potatoes are simply much too binding for me -- not a pleasant experience to eat in quantity, ever.

0
8bdbf060209f35b52087992a3cbdf4d7

on November 13, 2012
at 10:02 PM

Potatoes? EAT MORE!

0
01adafcb4dd4147c6af543f61eee60a8

on June 03, 2012
at 10:49 AM

Once a month maybe is ok.

0
1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

(20378)

on May 14, 2012
at 04:26 AM

I am ok with them.

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48b3a3fac68ce4e0b80d8d29a584cc93

(242)

on May 13, 2012
at 10:04 PM

I'm not okay with them. I see them as cheat meals.

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D5c8768927c463b363b109f18b7c16c4

(375)

on January 12, 2012
at 09:15 PM

fruits>potatoes

Both are nutritious

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