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potato diet hack with added fat

Answered on September 01, 2016
Created March 21, 2013 at 3:23 PM

Okay, so basically I've been trying to lose weight for a few months now, but can never control my appetite. I thought eating fruit would be okay, but I realize now that my body is weird and doesn't need to be LOW CARB but rather just needs to be no grain/sugar/anything sweet or else I stall, can't control my appetite. While I find this strange, I guess it's not THAT strange considering the threads I've read expressing that fructose from fruit and starch from potatoes, while both carbs, process VERY different metabolically. I feel so much more in control since eliminating those two things.

So, with that being said, I've noticed how much incredibly fuller I am with potatoes in my diet, and thought I'd give the potato hack one more try, but with a little twist. I know people have been saying that the hack ONLY works with no added fat, but I've been eating about 2 small white potatoes for breakfast after a workout with a T of grass fed butter each, and I'm full for hourrrrs. Then I just eat one more just like that for dinner. I am super full, but am still maintaining a calorie deficient to lose weight. I notice if I eat the potato plain, I'm starving/bingey in just a few minutes. Very weird. Same with low carb for me. But my body is very satisfied with the COMBINATION.

Since I've gotten a lot of feedback before that I just need to stick with something for 2 weeks, rather then jumping from this to that, I am going to stick with this for 2 weeks and update. Just as speculation though, I can't imagine this NOT working as long as I stick to it. That's pretty low calorie without fuss. Thoughts? Or has anyone tried this kind of thing? I know everyone says to take it slow, but I have been struggling with my weight for so long, and if they are making me full, why would I stuff more down my face anyway? Seems pointless. I'm listening to my body, and figure this kind of hack could be a positive thing.

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on March 24, 2013
at 06:09 AM

hi guys sorry to update so soon, but I really thought this was helping me, but I think the butter and high fat is what was helping me, not the potatoes. so I am discontinuing this b/c the carbs were i dunno just not digesting right. Maybe someone else who is better suited for carbs will try this, I think it could work for some. sorry.

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on March 21, 2013
at 09:15 PM

Maybe ill eat 200 cals of steak for dinner instead of another potato. Thanks guys.

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on March 21, 2013
at 06:09 PM

Amber, why do you think you will maintain a lower weight with a higher amount of calories? If a no grain/sugar/anything sweet diet maintains your current bodyfat level, it will increase your bodyfat to your current level after you adopt it. Why would you need two different diets for permanent fat loss? Just start eating the sustainable one now and it will take care of itself.

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on March 21, 2013
at 06:01 PM

Btw, I agree with Travis that including some steak would be a good idea, along with a calcium source IMO (iron and calcium and b12 are still important).

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on March 21, 2013
at 05:59 PM

I'd love to hear better ideas for getting in my fat (seriously). My macros are around 30%carb/45%fat/25%protein on days I eat that much butter. I hit ever single one of my micros also, from iron, calcium, mag,potassium,b's, supplement a and d and k2 mk4. And if I remember right I'm not the first whose gone through high butter periods (turns your finger back around).

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

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on March 21, 2013
at 05:57 PM

potatoes do have protein, fat, and carbs of course. and like stephen says are a complete protein with all the amino acids we need, maybe not ENOUGH, but hey like you say, it's working for me, so I'm just listening to my body and giving this a go (: thanks Lumifer and Stephen

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

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on March 21, 2013
at 05:55 PM

And thank you Stephen, that's how I feel. and travis, I wouldn't call butter a refined fat? From a paleo standpoint, it is a healthy fat, just like CO.

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on March 21, 2013
at 05:54 PM

Hi travis, well see the thing is my end game like you say is to lose weight, but when i go back to a more "balanced" diet, I will still not eat grains/sugars/anything sweet, which for me, from what I've experimented, seems to maintain my weight, and plus I plan to still eat potatoes, which without grains/sugars, seems to control my appetite. I will take your steak idea into consideration, but for these 2 weeks, just potatoes and butter for me.

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on March 21, 2013
at 05:52 PM

Potatoes are more or less pure starch. Your average boiled potato contains 1.7% of protein (by weight), that's basically negligible.

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on March 21, 2013
at 05:50 PM

Yeah but didn't you just post about eating an actual pound of butter as part of a balanced meal?

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on March 21, 2013
at 05:45 PM

Just out of curiosity when you say this diet isn't well balanced what exactly would you say she'd become deficient in? Calcium and iron, maybe some b12 are the main things that stand out to me. So if she goes back to a 'regular' diet she'd need to include some dairy or fish or red meat? This diet doesn't seem to extreme to me, but who knows.

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on March 21, 2013
at 05:42 PM

Not to say she might not need more, but aren't potatoes a complete protein?

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on March 21, 2013
at 04:55 PM

thanks Stephen! I'll definitely update in 2 weeks. And thank you Marcy! Much appreciated. Much easier on the eyes now, should have done that myself. thanks!

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on March 21, 2013
at 03:42 PM

Sorry, not trying to be annoying but I added paragraphs so this didn't read like a potato-fueled rant all in one breath.

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on March 21, 2013
at 03:38 PM

I think it sounds like a very cool idea, I'd like to we how it works out for you.

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800e726cb5dff569fd8edf604c3e2793

on March 21, 2013
at 05:11 PM

Keeping in mind the caloric density of butter and potatoes you're probably eating 50% fat 50% carbs on a calorie basis :-) Do note that the starch in potatoes is nothing but a polymer of glucose and by the time that starch gets into your bloodstream it's just plain-vanilla glucose. Also do note that you need protein and potatoes-with-butter basically have none.

But if it works for you, great :-) What your body tells you is always more important than generic advice from the 'net...

800e726cb5dff569fd8edf604c3e2793

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on March 21, 2013
at 05:52 PM

Potatoes are more or less pure starch. Your average boiled potato contains 1.7% of protein (by weight), that's basically negligible.

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(748)

on March 21, 2013
at 05:57 PM

potatoes do have protein, fat, and carbs of course. and like stephen says are a complete protein with all the amino acids we need, maybe not ENOUGH, but hey like you say, it's working for me, so I'm just listening to my body and giving this a go (: thanks Lumifer and Stephen

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on March 21, 2013
at 05:42 PM

Not to say she might not need more, but aren't potatoes a complete protein?

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on March 21, 2013
at 06:03 PM

If it works for you, you might try a variation--just the butter, not the potato (perhaps 1 1/2 T butter for more volume/ calories). I suspect THAT's why you are more satisfied (since potatoes alone did not do it), but I could be wrong. It would be interesting to find out!

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on September 01, 2016
at 02:17 PM

In an experiment from the 1920´s, two persons (female and male) ate 1 kg and 1.7 kg potatoes respectively, for 6 months, but along with plenty of fats: «The diet consisted of potatoes, supplemented with butter or pork fat with the addition of a few fruits (apples and pears); tea or black coffee and sugar were also occasionally taken. The amount of fat consumed was not accurately estimated, it varied from 120-150 g. daily.»

 

So they may have obtained as much as 50% of energy from fats and 2000-2700 calories, yet «Body weight was nearly constant during the whole experiment (…) The digestion was excellent throughout the experiment and both subjects felt very well. They did not tire of the uniform potato diet and there was no craving for change.»

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1252113/pdf/biochemj01140-0284.pdf

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on March 21, 2013
at 05:36 PM

So...what's your end-game? Assuming you lose weight doing this, you then go back to a diet that's actually well-balanced and healthy but has a greater number of calories and your weight will just trend upward to the new maintenance level. A lot of studies have indicated that swings in bodyfat of that nature are disadvantageous.

Why not just take a balanced diet and eliminate gratuitous refined fats like butter and permanently lower your caloric intake?

Assuming you do proceed with this, why not make it slightly more balanced (with greater satiety) by allocating those butter calories as steak instead?

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on March 21, 2013
at 05:50 PM

Yeah but didn't you just post about eating an actual pound of butter as part of a balanced meal?

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(748)

on March 21, 2013
at 05:54 PM

Hi travis, well see the thing is my end game like you say is to lose weight, but when i go back to a more "balanced" diet, I will still not eat grains/sugars/anything sweet, which for me, from what I've experimented, seems to maintain my weight, and plus I plan to still eat potatoes, which without grains/sugars, seems to control my appetite. I will take your steak idea into consideration, but for these 2 weeks, just potatoes and butter for me.

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(748)

on March 21, 2013
at 09:15 PM

Maybe ill eat 200 cals of steak for dinner instead of another potato. Thanks guys.

Medium avatar

(39831)

on March 21, 2013
at 06:09 PM

Amber, why do you think you will maintain a lower weight with a higher amount of calories? If a no grain/sugar/anything sweet diet maintains your current bodyfat level, it will increase your bodyfat to your current level after you adopt it. Why would you need two different diets for permanent fat loss? Just start eating the sustainable one now and it will take care of itself.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on March 21, 2013
at 05:59 PM

I'd love to hear better ideas for getting in my fat (seriously). My macros are around 30%carb/45%fat/25%protein on days I eat that much butter. I hit ever single one of my micros also, from iron, calcium, mag,potassium,b's, supplement a and d and k2 mk4. And if I remember right I'm not the first whose gone through high butter periods (turns your finger back around).

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on March 21, 2013
at 05:45 PM

Just out of curiosity when you say this diet isn't well balanced what exactly would you say she'd become deficient in? Calcium and iron, maybe some b12 are the main things that stand out to me. So if she goes back to a 'regular' diet she'd need to include some dairy or fish or red meat? This diet doesn't seem to extreme to me, but who knows.

C23148e16a4dd05351d1902a69097d65

(748)

on March 21, 2013
at 05:55 PM

And thank you Stephen, that's how I feel. and travis, I wouldn't call butter a refined fat? From a paleo standpoint, it is a healthy fat, just like CO.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on March 21, 2013
at 06:01 PM

Btw, I agree with Travis that including some steak would be a good idea, along with a calcium source IMO (iron and calcium and b12 are still important).

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