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Is the "Potato Diet" the missing link for Paleo?

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Created December 06, 2012 at 12:37 AM

I started hearing about the mysterious 'potato diet' a few months ago and gave it a try. Atkins, Paleo, Primal, PHD, etc... all have a problem: The dreaded plateau.

I had given up hope for losing my last 10, so I did the 'potato diet'.

Here's what I did: I ate potatoes for 14 days. The first 7 were all plain potatoes, the last 7 days I added about 2 strips of fatty bacon per day. I lost 12 pounds in those two weeks, and I've kept it off for 30 days now.

Prior to starting, I was in 'nutritional ketosis' like Jimmy for almost 3 months and not losing. I went to a pure starch diet, cut way down on calories--but was less hungry than when eating high fat. It got my hunger, snacking, and carb fears under control. I now include some potatoes every day and eat more toward satiety than any special macro percentage.

Missing link?

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on January 07, 2013
at 07:02 PM

If I had substantial weight to lose, I would eat nothing but potatoes for 5-7 days at a time with 2 days of regular, paleo refeeds in between cycles. The reason would be for sanity and nutrition.

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on January 04, 2013
at 08:40 PM

what do you mean about periodic higher calorie re-feeds? If doing this for a while until ideal weight is achieved, how often do you think re feeds would be needed to keep weight loss consistent? Maybe 1 higher calorie Paleo day (eggs, meat, good fats, some potatoes, no fructose) every 14 days? Do you think that would do the trick?

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on January 01, 2013
at 04:57 PM

Don't be obtuse. Mcdougall is all about grains and beans. If you just threw in some vegetables, you've got a boring vegan diet, that doesn't make it Mcdougall's diet.

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on December 16, 2012
at 05:40 AM

I wonder if the same amount would be lost at 400 cals a day like your first day on any food or if potatoes are "magic"? Haha

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on December 07, 2012
at 09:04 PM

Richard, have you felt less energetic during the day as a result of not sleeping as well? I've recently been eating a lot more carbs (from tubers and fruits) and noticed that I have had more trouble falling asleep, too, even when I feel tired. But my energy during the day has been good, despite the sleep problems (also, I usually wake up between 2-5am and fall back asleep), oddly enough.

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on December 07, 2012
at 08:04 AM

I'm curious, did you test your bodyfat % before you started? Do you know if you have lost muscle + fat or just fat?

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on December 07, 2012
at 12:47 AM

Is spam sushi paleo?

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on December 06, 2012
at 10:58 PM

I could imagine myself eating a squash diet if they were all buttercups. But my Halloween pumpkin sucks and there's about 5 lbs left. Gimme a potato.

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I don't think the quilt made quite that much with leptin reset.

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on December 06, 2012
at 09:40 PM

how so? What is special about potatoes?

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at 08:56 PM

Well right now it's oyster time! Olerons, Marennes, as well as your run of the mill Arcachons.

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on December 06, 2012
at 08:00 PM

Maybe? I would say definitely. My next experiment with potatoes will be to see if Ray Peat is right about the juice. Supposedly there are keto acids in it.

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on December 06, 2012
at 07:46 PM

This is "Matt" (posted that last comment on school computer) What's weird is that I'm still able to fast for ~20 hours...potatoes are awesome. . I did have amazing, almost euphoric energy on VLC but got really skinny and crashed after about 3 months.

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on December 06, 2012
at 07:06 PM

Spam not allowed...potatoes only

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on December 06, 2012
at 07:06 PM

I did, and it was fine. Showed perfect control of glucose. Maybe if you have impaired glucose abilities it's not for you...

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on December 06, 2012
at 07:05 PM

You know what my first meal was after 14 days of potatoes? Hashbrowns and bacon. I never, ever got tired of eating potatoes. In fact, i came to enjoy them more. Try eating chicken breasts for 2 or 3 days. you'll never want another. I had no negative reactions. Sleep was great.

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on December 06, 2012
at 07:02 PM

I think someone could market this a the "potato reset" and make billions!

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on December 06, 2012
at 06:58 PM

Resetting the body on high carbs from time to time is as valuable (and as authentically paleo) as resetting on bacon and eggs.

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at 06:56 PM

testing testing

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on December 06, 2012
at 06:45 PM

but again, it's changing, in France.

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on December 06, 2012
at 06:44 PM

true that! they do. again, it's totally anecdotal to say this, but they also pretty much eat in season (although it's changing now, just like their diet is changing to be more SAD), but they don't have the luxury of shipping in asparagus from chile, starfruit, pomelos, persimmons, rambutan, all the exotic and nonexotic stuff we get here. I think they look forward to the seasons of things and I think it's less common for countries outside of the US to be able to get cherries or melon or asparagus out of season.

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on December 06, 2012
at 06:44 PM

I have one issue that has cropped up. Don't know whether it's a remnant of where I was, or what. i had become accustomed to sleeping like 8-9 hours, going to sleep easy. Now, it definitely takes more time and focus to get to sleep—even when I seem to feel tired before I go to bed. And, now I back as I used to be, which is that around the 6 hour point of sleep, I wake up and can not really stay in bed.

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on December 06, 2012
at 06:41 PM

Matt. You're an outlier. As much as I love food I could no more manage to eat more than about 6 largish potatoes a day than I could manage things that to describe would likely violate the terms I agreed to to post here. I must say: mostly potatoes for about a month now (just bits of added fat & protein—we're talking 1-2 oz per day, for flavor) and in spite of the very low protein, I not only don't feel as though I have lost any lean, but perform even better in my weekly trip to the gym to lift heavy.

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on December 06, 2012
at 06:36 PM

"I'd imagine the carrot diet, or the green pepper diet, or the squash diet, or whatever would do the same." And you would continue to imagine.

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on December 06, 2012
at 06:34 PM

It's nowhere leangains, having worked personally with Martin over months (though Martin tailors individually). If you eat the 270g of protein Martin had me on, not a lot of room for a primarily starch diet.

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on December 06, 2012
at 05:34 PM

The French hate leftovers too.

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on December 06, 2012
at 04:51 PM

sounds like leangains science. hence the reason why he has you do one high fat low carb day followed by a workout + low fat high carb day to recomposition your body. his site explains some of it, that both carb and fat affect leptin.

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on December 06, 2012
at 04:35 PM

i smell spam...

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on December 06, 2012
at 03:23 PM

wasn't lucy the missing link?

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on December 06, 2012
at 01:10 PM

This diet reminds me of the cabbage soup diet, though potatoes sound more interesting and higher in calories. They could spiff it up by naming it the Boise Hospital diet. Or Dublin Physicians diet.

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on December 06, 2012
at 01:04 PM

900-1100 cal/day BMR is about 100 lb body weight. Are you that small, and if you are why are you trying to lose weight?

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on December 06, 2012
at 01:54 AM

On a side note - I conducted my potato experiment immediately following Thanksgiving Day. So, that may have had something to do with my lack of weight loss, followed by rapid weight loss once I returned to my normal diet. I may try the potato diet again during more normal pre experiment conditions to see what happens. I am confident that it would result in weight loss, because there is a definite caloric deficit.

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on December 06, 2012
at 01:47 AM

I agree with your statement completely. I felt great during my potato feast as well. I never felt hungry and I found potatoes to be quite palatable. I was definitely in a caloric deficit and I was not hungry. I just think it's a shame that paleo could even have a missing link. I know that low carb dogma has firmly taken hold in a lot of paleo ideology. With that in mind, you are right, this could be the missing link. For me though, there is no missing link because paleo just means eating real food. Paleo = real food = potatoes (among many other things).

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on December 06, 2012
at 01:02 AM

I felt awesome! The reason I think of it as the missing link, is because people get 'carb phobic' or 'calorie unaware'. Cutting calories is tough, but needed. If you are hungry, it really sucks. Potatoes top the list of satiating foods (Google 'Satiety Index). Being able to eat at a huge deficit for 2 weeks or less will move stubborn pounds guaranteed--not being starved doing it makes it 'do-able'...the missing link!

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at 12:54 AM

I was eating at a mega-deficit. Yes, that explains the weight lost. Curiously, I was never hungry. At first, it seemed weird, then I got in a groove. 1 potato for lunch, 2-3 for dinner. That was all. Adding bacon on second week made things tastier and easier to cook potatoes with a bit of fat, my deficit was still pretty big. I was eating roughly 900-1100 kcal/day which is about what my basal metabolic rate is. I tried eating at this level on ketogenic diet and couldn't maintain it very long as I was always starving when I dropped below about 1200kcal/day.

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on December 06, 2012
at 12:49 AM

Cool experiment. Obviously, amazing results. How did you feel during the 14 days of eating potatoes?

I did a shorter version recently just for the experiment of it. I ate nothing but potatoes for 6 days. I did not lose any weight during those 6 days (I did sleep really well at night). What was remarkable, was that after going back to meat, vegetables, etc., I immediately lost 3-4 pounds with no effort and have remained at that weight since. I'm not afraid of potatoes or rice. To me, they constitue real food and I feel good when I eath them, so I do. My post workout meal today included hash browns (my staple during the 6 day potato hack).

I don't think there is a "missing link" to the "paleo diet". My conception of the paleo diet is just to eat real food and not too much of it. Potatoes are real food.

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on December 06, 2012
at 01:54 AM

On a side note - I conducted my potato experiment immediately following Thanksgiving Day. So, that may have had something to do with my lack of weight loss, followed by rapid weight loss once I returned to my normal diet. I may try the potato diet again during more normal pre experiment conditions to see what happens. I am confident that it would result in weight loss, because there is a definite caloric deficit.

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on December 06, 2012
at 01:02 AM

I felt awesome! The reason I think of it as the missing link, is because people get 'carb phobic' or 'calorie unaware'. Cutting calories is tough, but needed. If you are hungry, it really sucks. Potatoes top the list of satiating foods (Google 'Satiety Index). Being able to eat at a huge deficit for 2 weeks or less will move stubborn pounds guaranteed--not being starved doing it makes it 'do-able'...the missing link!

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on December 06, 2012
at 01:47 AM

I agree with your statement completely. I felt great during my potato feast as well. I never felt hungry and I found potatoes to be quite palatable. I was definitely in a caloric deficit and I was not hungry. I just think it's a shame that paleo could even have a missing link. I know that low carb dogma has firmly taken hold in a lot of paleo ideology. With that in mind, you are right, this could be the missing link. For me though, there is no missing link because paleo just means eating real food. Paleo = real food = potatoes (among many other things).

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on December 06, 2012
at 03:36 PM

I would have to agree with you... I started eating loads of potatoes for dinner. (yams, sweet potatoes, white potatoes) And when I say loads I mean like 20lbs a week. While I haven't lost any weight I feel much more muscular and energized than I did on low carb.

I was way too skinny on VLC..It's nice to finally have a reliable, tasty, safe, carb source.

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on December 06, 2012
at 06:41 PM

Matt. You're an outlier. As much as I love food I could no more manage to eat more than about 6 largish potatoes a day than I could manage things that to describe would likely violate the terms I agreed to to post here. I must say: mostly potatoes for about a month now (just bits of added fat & protein—we're talking 1-2 oz per day, for flavor) and in spite of the very low protein, I not only don't feel as though I have lost any lean, but perform even better in my weekly trip to the gym to lift heavy.

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on December 06, 2012
at 07:46 PM

This is "Matt" (posted that last comment on school computer) What's weird is that I'm still able to fast for ~20 hours...potatoes are awesome. . I did have amazing, almost euphoric energy on VLC but got really skinny and crashed after about 3 months.

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on December 06, 2012
at 05:58 PM

I agree there is a big piece missing in paleo for people who came into this lifestyle as overweight/metabolic syndrome. It is also missing in Atkins. The problem as I see it is that as you get healthier and lose weight, your calorie requirement drops faster than you are willing to admit. Your body gets better at extracting vitamins and minerals and you need to eat less, but for some reason you are still over-eating.

When eating SAD, I think a lot of our over-eating is the body/brain telling you to eat more because you are getting very little nutrition in your diet and it wants to make up the deficit by eating more of everything. After you switch to Paleo, you are again nutritionally replete, but you still cling to the belief that you need 2500kcal per day to thrive. You try IF'ing, CrossFit, Leptin Resets, Cold Thermogenesis, Nutritional Ketosis, but you are still overweight. Then you justify it by saying, "This is my healthy weight!".

I think just about every man eating a paleo diet, bodybuilders excluded, who started as overweight/obese/fat/metabolic syndrome/etc... should strive to get to about 15% bodyfat plus/minus 3% and stay there year round. If that isn't acceptable to you,then think of the BMI charts--we should want to be right in the middle and stay there. Again, bodybuilders excepted. Maybe gaining a bit in Summer and leaning out in Winter as nature dictates.

I think the "Potato Diet" is an excellent way to do this. Use it to get to your leanest, then use it periodically, once or twice a year to stay there.

I also think the "Potato Diet" has some properties that everyone is overlooking. Potatoes rank highest on food reward/satiety charts. They are not nutritionally complete, but what they do have gives them an ability to make us extremely insulin/leptin sensitive, and alters our gut flora when eating them predominately for a week or two.

Is it the only way? Probably not, there may be others but I haven't seen it yet. This will be scrutinized for years to come. Guyenet, Cronise, Hyperlipid's Peter, Nikoley, Voight et al stumbled across this by accident...people will try it, see it works, then everyone will scramble to explain it. It works better than anyone can imagine.

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on March 17, 2015
at 08:32 AM

interesting post, but hard for me to understand how to apply this to my diet. I come from high obese/metabolic syndrome. Dropping 80Lbs using primal, but now hitting a plateau without having changed anything to my daily eating and workout habits. Need to drop another 40LBS. So, just eat potatoes? Nothing else? Doesnt seem right :-)

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on December 06, 2012
at 10:55 PM

I don't think the quilt made quite that much with leptin reset.

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on December 06, 2012
at 07:02 PM

I think someone could market this a the "potato reset" and make billions!

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on December 06, 2012
at 06:56 PM

testing testing

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on December 06, 2012
at 06:58 PM

Resetting the body on high carbs from time to time is as valuable (and as authentically paleo) as resetting on bacon and eggs.

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on December 06, 2012
at 05:00 PM

i do think that this is what's missing from primal or paleo lifestyles, but for different reasons. I think that the missing link is our ancestors definitely would've feasted - especially when fruit was in season. but it's taboo to say this because of ibs, fructose malabsorption, specific carb diet, gaps, the higher sugar content of fruit now than before, people going paleo or low carb for weight loss.

the diet/lifestyle change will take you to a healthier state, but the last 20% is for you to figure out.

so back to our ancestors - when they killed something, they definitely had meat-a-thons but what about the berry-a-thon or the tuber-a-thon or the bee hive feast?

what about when the hunters came back empty handed?

I guarantee you that every day blueberries were in season and I went out to pick them i gorged myself on them before the birds could because they were so fresh and delicious. and i refuse to eat blueberries out of season because they suck. I'd imagine it's the same with freshly picked boiled potatoes (i've heard these are amazing) and I also LOVE fresh sweet potatoes from the ground. so much better than what you get at the store. i think your ancestral taste buds grow to expect something at its peak flavor, because the nutrition is better then too....So in conclusion, i think seasonality is what's missing from paleo/primal/low carbing as well - eating food fresh, not eating leftovers, eating in season or as soon as something was picked/killed.

there is probably nothing novel stated here.

anecdote/aside: in venezuela and ethiopia, i've heard from friends and read in books about people eating raw meat from a freshly killed cow. they say there's nothing like it! so places still live like this.

i know even in many countries people do not like leftovers, like india. yes, india! and the person i was talking to was jain, who can't really eat anything. I think that food in america is not fresh enough.

i wish i had more than personal anecdote to offer you.

but it gives me ideas, this thread. thanks!

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on December 06, 2012
at 05:34 PM

The French hate leftovers too.

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on December 06, 2012
at 06:45 PM

but again, it's changing, in France.

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on December 06, 2012
at 08:56 PM

Well right now it's oyster time! Olerons, Marennes, as well as your run of the mill Arcachons.

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on December 06, 2012
at 06:44 PM

true that! they do. again, it's totally anecdotal to say this, but they also pretty much eat in season (although it's changing now, just like their diet is changing to be more SAD), but they don't have the luxury of shipping in asparagus from chile, starfruit, pomelos, persimmons, rambutan, all the exotic and nonexotic stuff we get here. I think they look forward to the seasons of things and I think it's less common for countries outside of the US to be able to get cherries or melon or asparagus out of season.

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on December 06, 2012
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I think potatoes were a missing link for me. Having a convenient carb source that wasn't grains really helped me solidify my paleo diet. Now I'm not tempted to go back to ice cream or bread or anything and I still feel great. I've been trying to gain, not lose weight and finding a good carb source was difficult for me since I don't digest dairy great and don't eat grains and have a very strong aversion to sugar/HFCS. So lots of potatoes on top of what I was previously eating helped me break a paleo plateau too, only in the gaining weight, not losing weight department.

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on December 06, 2012
at 11:13 AM

I'd say the missing link actually came right before paleo.

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on December 06, 2012
at 03:23 PM

wasn't lucy the missing link?

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on December 06, 2012
at 02:49 PM

A carb is not a carb. Starches/glucose effect the body very differently than fructose/fruit. This may be interesting. His diet does work. http://activenocarber.myfreeforum.org/archive/easing-into-0carb-or-maybe-not-aka-steak-lovers-diet__o_t__t_953.html

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on December 06, 2012
at 11:46 AM

Interesting result. I have no trouble loosing weight when I count calories. I have never hit a plateau as long as I continue excercising and counting. If you are having trouble then this could work I guess. I Think I would rather be a little hungry than eat only potatoes!

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on December 06, 2012
at 01:10 PM

This diet reminds me of the cabbage soup diet, though potatoes sound more interesting and higher in calories. They could spiff it up by naming it the Boise Hospital diet. Or Dublin Physicians diet.

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on December 06, 2012
at 10:49 PM

I wonder how significant the mono-mealing aspect of this experiment is, rather than the actual food.

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on December 06, 2012
at 07:34 PM

I think there will end up being several good ways to incorporate the "Potato Diet" in our lives.

One is to eat a strict, low calorie, plain potato menu for 7-14 days, expecting to lose 5-10lbs, done once or twice a year.

Another is to incorporate longer periods of potato inclusion, perhaps with a bit of added fat/protein, with periodic higher calorie refeeds. This cycle could go on indefinitely until a goal weight is reached.

A third option is to use alongside IF'ing. No breakfast, plain potato lunch, paleo dinner. Or even alternate days of low calorie plain potato and paleo.

Check out this link to see some good results: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread72366.html

People are tracking ketosis, blood glucose, body fat, weight etc... Almost everyone seems to do really well on the potato diet. A few don't--not sure why.

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on January 04, 2013
at 08:40 PM

what do you mean about periodic higher calorie re-feeds? If doing this for a while until ideal weight is achieved, how often do you think re feeds would be needed to keep weight loss consistent? Maybe 1 higher calorie Paleo day (eggs, meat, good fats, some potatoes, no fructose) every 14 days? Do you think that would do the trick?

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on January 07, 2013
at 07:02 PM

If I had substantial weight to lose, I would eat nothing but potatoes for 5-7 days at a time with 2 days of regular, paleo refeeds in between cycles. The reason would be for sanity and nutrition.

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on December 06, 2012
at 03:27 PM

I'd imagine the carrot diet, or the green pepper diet, or the squash diet, or whatever would do the same. Limit yourself to a high volume, low calorie food and you will get full while eating at a massive caloric diet.

But Paleo is not about "getting ripped" or even losing weight. It is about being healthy. Potatoes are a wonderful food, but (except for breast milk during infancy) there is not a single food that provides all the necessary vitamins and nutrients that we need for optimal health.

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on December 06, 2012
at 10:58 PM

I could imagine myself eating a squash diet if they were all buttercups. But my Halloween pumpkin sucks and there's about 5 lbs left. Gimme a potato.

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on December 06, 2012
at 06:36 PM

"I'd imagine the carrot diet, or the green pepper diet, or the squash diet, or whatever would do the same." And you would continue to imagine.

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on December 06, 2012
at 09:40 PM

how so? What is special about potatoes?

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on December 06, 2012
at 05:43 AM

Did you have any trouble psychologically, i.e. did you get sick of eating potatoes or have any troubles with adherence?

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on December 06, 2012
at 06:44 PM

I have one issue that has cropped up. Don't know whether it's a remnant of where I was, or what. i had become accustomed to sleeping like 8-9 hours, going to sleep easy. Now, it definitely takes more time and focus to get to sleep—even when I seem to feel tired before I go to bed. And, now I back as I used to be, which is that around the 6 hour point of sleep, I wake up and can not really stay in bed.

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on December 06, 2012
at 07:05 PM

You know what my first meal was after 14 days of potatoes? Hashbrowns and bacon. I never, ever got tired of eating potatoes. In fact, i came to enjoy them more. Try eating chicken breasts for 2 or 3 days. you'll never want another. I had no negative reactions. Sleep was great.

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on December 07, 2012
at 09:04 PM

Richard, have you felt less energetic during the day as a result of not sleeping as well? I've recently been eating a lot more carbs (from tubers and fruits) and noticed that I have had more trouble falling asleep, too, even when I feel tired. But my energy during the day has been good, despite the sleep problems (also, I usually wake up between 2-5am and fall back asleep), oddly enough.

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on December 06, 2012
at 01:02 AM

I think it's interesting -- but wouldn't assume that everyone hits a plateau to begin with, or has much trouble breaking through one if they do. I broke a brief plateau by counting calories & increasing movement, and then cutting only 100 calories a day, which caused no hunger to speak of and was (for me, anyway) WAY less onerous than an all-potato diet. Did not have any snacking issues or carb fears to begin with, though.

But it's a great idea for anyone who has hit a wall & can't find any other way through.

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on December 20, 2012
at 09:59 AM

Throw in a few vegetables and you basically have yourself the Dr Mcdougall diet. Maybe people who failed on low-fat were just "doing it wrong".

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(1981)

on January 01, 2013
at 04:57 PM

Don't be obtuse. Mcdougall is all about grains and beans. If you just threw in some vegetables, you've got a boring vegan diet, that doesn't make it Mcdougall's diet.

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on December 15, 2012
at 11:32 PM

But too much starch is bad for you? or not?

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on December 06, 2012
at 11:09 PM

Eating nothing but one type of food is not this missing link to Paleo, but finding out what works for you is the right thing to do.

Have you tried swapping out the potatoes for other carbohydrate sources to see how you feel?

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on December 06, 2012
at 07:55 PM

I usually let myself have a single starchy carb a day.. usually potato, but can vary. When I'm really craving carbs, I do a mash with celery root, cauliflower and a potato (one of each), usually makes about 6-8 good sized servings very filling with a low glycemic load, and fairly high in fiber. Not exactly paleo in the purest sense, but it works for me.

I'm simply unable/unwilling to give all the starches/carbs up, but find I can get by with one a day. I tend to have a free day every two weeks or so. I'm consuming about 2000-2400 calaries a day, and down about 45# over the past four months.

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on December 06, 2012
at 04:56 PM

I tried something similar well after I lost weight, back when Stephan Guyenet posted stuff about it on his blog. I neither gained nor lost weight, but I felt absolutely awful. To the level of clinical depression awful. Melissa McEwen went through something similar- she called it anhedonia, which in my opinion is pretty apt. I certainly wasn't enjoying anything. I suppose if I had had any weight left to lose, I might have lost it just based on my general distaste for life while eating too many tubers.

It may have helped you in terms of losing weight, but there is more to be worried about. Have you tracked your blood sugar while doing this?

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(11214)

on December 06, 2012
at 08:00 PM

Maybe? I would say definitely. My next experiment with potatoes will be to see if Ray Peat is right about the juice. Supposedly there are keto acids in it.

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on December 06, 2012
at 07:06 PM

I did, and it was fine. Showed perfect control of glucose. Maybe if you have impaired glucose abilities it's not for you...

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on December 06, 2012
at 12:40 AM

Out of curiosity, did you track calories? And if so, were you at a deficit during the potato diet? It seems that most people who have successfully lost weight on this diet were at a severe caloric deficit, which explains the weight loss.

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on December 06, 2012
at 01:04 PM

900-1100 cal/day BMR is about 100 lb body weight. Are you that small, and if you are why are you trying to lose weight?

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(172)

on December 06, 2012
at 12:54 AM

I was eating at a mega-deficit. Yes, that explains the weight lost. Curiously, I was never hungry. At first, it seemed weird, then I got in a groove. 1 potato for lunch, 2-3 for dinner. That was all. Adding bacon on second week made things tastier and easier to cook potatoes with a bit of fat, my deficit was still pretty big. I was eating roughly 900-1100 kcal/day which is about what my basal metabolic rate is. I tried eating at this level on ketogenic diet and couldn't maintain it very long as I was always starving when I dropped below about 1200kcal/day.

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on December 16, 2012
at 05:40 AM

I wonder if the same amount would be lost at 400 cals a day like your first day on any food or if potatoes are "magic"? Haha

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on December 06, 2012
at 10:55 AM

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(172)

on December 06, 2012
at 07:06 PM

Spam not allowed...potatoes only

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on December 07, 2012
at 12:47 AM

Is spam sushi paleo?

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on December 06, 2012
at 04:35 PM

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