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Is the French Fry Diet Paleo?

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Created November 14, 2012 at 11:09 PM

It's here! The "Potato Diet" is officially 'all over the place'!

http://freetheanimal.com/

"But no, this relates to a bit of a weight / fat loss self experiment involving potatoes. See, some of us older folk have no problem getting most of the blubber off. It's that last 15-25 pounds that's a bitch and as I just blogged about, the so-called potato diet is really showing promise. So as with many things, I'm open to giving it a try. Here was the main post on the subject: The Latest Diet & Exercise Hacking Towards a Goal.

The key is to use something that fills and satiates you, that you have a hard time eating enough of to maintain body weight and is super low in fat such that your cells will be going to your fat cells to cash in regularly. And, the amino acid profile is of sufficient quality to promote lean muscle retention.

But the problem is palatability. Boiled potatoes with salt and maybe a dash of olive oil or smidgen of butter day in, day out? Nah. That post linked above is one solution, in the form of a soup. Yesterday I tried to go it the conventional way. I peeled and cubed a potato, tossed it in the nuker, then tossed it in some ketchup (0 fat) & salt. First, the wafting smell of vinegar was enough to kill my appetite right off. Second, just not very tasty, though I got it down and wasn't hungry later."

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

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on November 15, 2012
at 03:13 PM

Just re-read Peter's stuff so I see how the insulin spiking bit can be circumvented by the reduced exogenous fat, but that still doesn't help my fears of under consuming of protein. I mean there is less than 30g of protein in 3.5 lbs of potato. Not sure how many fries your eating in a day, but this all just boils down to bulk fullness in my book. And with quite insufficient protein to boot. But hey experiment on! I'll enjoy reading the results. This fella did a modified one with sufficient protein http://potatofast.com/

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on November 15, 2012
at 01:13 PM

@gydle the author of the link is frying his potatoes. He's trying to minimize the amount of fat, and he ends up with French fries.

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on November 15, 2012
at 06:56 AM

but you wouldn't eat the potatos as french fries! The hack requires low fat to work.

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on November 15, 2012
at 06:56 AM

all carbs are not created equal. A starch carb and a fruit carb are very different creatures, metabolically.

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on November 15, 2012
at 06:48 AM

It won't work if you add fat. That's the whole point.

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on November 15, 2012
at 04:51 AM

This isn't a safe-starch debate, the question is: Is the french fry diet (potato diet) paleo? Answer: Yes!

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on November 15, 2012
at 12:20 AM

Reading these comments from the pundits I see more and more of the voice of Conventional Wisdom speaking.

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on November 15, 2012
at 12:17 AM

Of course it's not paleo. Or ancestral. Or even French, since the Belgians invented that form of fried potatoes. But make your paleo best of them anyway. Cube them up and fry them in duck fat like the French do. There are no pictures of this at Lascaux but you can tell they were thinking about it.

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on November 14, 2012
at 11:47 PM

"who wants potatoes every day?" Uh, a few billion people, give or take? "Also full of carbs." Uh, yea, that's actually the precise idea.

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on November 14, 2012
at 11:57 PM

For those interested in the metabolic science behind how this???silly, I admit???potato thing works, even lowers insulin and increases insulin sensitivity, see Peter's post at Hyperlipid:

http://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/2012/10/protons-zero-fat_3.html

Then, keep an open mind, experiment. We're not talking about diet pills, bariatric surgery, crap in a box, bag, or can, or anything of the sort. Potatoes are pretty real. They actually grow them in the ground. And. I suspect you could equally use any sort of starchy tuber. The key is to get starch (glucose), not fructose, and keep the fat very, very low. It's a hack, a temporary one.

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on November 15, 2012
at 05:00 AM

I think the Potato Diet, and it's off-shoot, the French Fry Diet, is extremely paleo! Think about it...Paleo-man certainly had times of famine and had to rely on the underground storage organs of the taro, cassava, potato, cattail, and other starchy tubers. These foodsources are drought, frost, and pest resistant but easily dug by a man with a stick.

Even the Inuit had a plant called "Eskimo Potato" that they ate in late spring when all other food was scarce and sea-ice unsafe for travel.

The amylase receptors in our mouths tell me we are designed to eat starch, the fact that a pure starch bolus initiates supreme insulin sensitivity, as described by Peter at Hyperlipid in link above, tells me that there is ample evidence that we evolved to eat pure starch from time to time.

To use this evolutionary starvation-avoidance technique to lose a few pounds of fat by eating potatoes for a week or two is the most paleo fat-hack I've ever seen. Nothing can compare, IF, refeeds, leangains, warrior, cold baths, and keto diets don't give such quick results.

It's not a way of eating or a long-term plan, just a short, safe, paleo diet hack to lose some fat!

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on November 15, 2012
at 06:56 AM

but you wouldn't eat the potatos as french fries! The hack requires low fat to work.

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on November 15, 2012
at 02:52 PM

I'd rather do the steak or egg diet. If your gonna do a mono-food diet (pick a food any food really, any will work for "weight loss"), then do it with meat. Get sufficient protein to retain lean mass. If you wanna fast....well then just fast. At least then you would get the growth hormone effect that is also lean mass sparing.

I just don't see biochemically how this hack would in anyway burn "fat" predominately and I work too damn hard for my lean mass to just go shedding it for some vanity scale pounds.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

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on November 15, 2012
at 03:13 PM

Just re-read Peter's stuff so I see how the insulin spiking bit can be circumvented by the reduced exogenous fat, but that still doesn't help my fears of under consuming of protein. I mean there is less than 30g of protein in 3.5 lbs of potato. Not sure how many fries your eating in a day, but this all just boils down to bulk fullness in my book. And with quite insufficient protein to boot. But hey experiment on! I'll enjoy reading the results. This fella did a modified one with sufficient protein http://potatofast.com/

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on November 14, 2012
at 11:44 PM

Opinions vary on whether potatoes are included in the paleo diet. While nutrient for nutrient it is a whole food, potato consumption can cause many issues especially for anyone looking to lose weight. Many paleo primal diet heavy weights have commented on this issue. The Paleo Diet book (revised 2011) written by Loren Cordain forbids starches, including all grains, legumes, and potatoes. Primal blueprint creator Mark Sisson tackled this subject ???(Potatoes) represent a bolus of dietary starch, which can wreak havoc on the insulin resistant, but they are undeniably whole, real foods that don???t require much processing beyond simple heating. Robb Wolf???s has written ???(Should everyone) out there (be) chowing down on potatoes? Unfortunately, no. Not because there is anything unhealthy about potatoes, but a lot of people cannot process dense carb sources in a healthy way. It ultimately depends on your activity level and metabolic status. Basically those carbs fuel your activity level. If you???re living a desk to couch lifestyle then either up your activity level or keep the intake low. You have to earn your carbs. If you have metabolic issues (read: abdominal fat) then you need to get that sorted out first since you are not processing carbs correctly. It ends up being shuttled to the fat tissue instead of being available as energy."

61a27a8b7ec2264b1821923b271eaf54

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on November 15, 2012
at 04:51 AM

This isn't a safe-starch debate, the question is: Is the french fry diet (potato diet) paleo? Answer: Yes!

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on November 15, 2012
at 12:20 AM

Reading these comments from the pundits I see more and more of the voice of Conventional Wisdom speaking.

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on November 15, 2012
at 04:50 PM

It's the POTATO PROTOCOL??? and I've trademarked the name! I'm going to write a 400-page book that basically says, "just eat a lot of potatoes," and has some sciency-sounding stuff and a few cites. I see a big potato future, folks.

http://paleohacks.com/questions/159661/is-the-potato-protocol-the-latest-rage-in-the-paleo-community#axzz2CCxs3SYC

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on November 14, 2012
at 11:19 PM

Ridiculous,who wants potatoes every day? Also full of carbs.

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on November 14, 2012
at 11:47 PM

"who wants potatoes every day?" Uh, a few billion people, give or take? "Also full of carbs." Uh, yea, that's actually the precise idea.

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on November 15, 2012
at 06:56 AM

all carbs are not created equal. A starch carb and a fruit carb are very different creatures, metabolically.

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on November 15, 2012
at 09:31 AM

Hi,

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