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Protein shakes. So easy, a caveman can do it!

Answered on August 30, 2015
Created February 26, 2012 at 4:46 PM

I get it - cavemen didn't have protein powders in 5lb tubs. But, if they did, what would they use? I'm finishing up my Dymatize Elite Whey Protein Isolate from my pre-paleo days. Any suggestions on where to go from here?

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on August 30, 2015
at 05:44 PM

While I don't think cavemen were loading their shaker bottles up with protein powder....my favorite paleo friendly protein is Xwerks Grow. Its grass-fed whey isolate sweetned with stevia, I actually switched over from SFH and its been great. 

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on April 03, 2013
at 08:42 PM

alright, the problem is i'm in the netherlands and I can't find a denatured whey.. If I have to ship from the USA it costs me 45 dollars, so do you know a online store in Europe that sells it??

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on April 03, 2013
at 01:26 PM

I wouldn't sweat it if you've already purchased it, but I would continue looking for a type that doesn't contain soy if you haven't.

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on April 03, 2013
at 01:23 PM

No type of soy is paleo. Paleo or not, there are plenty of reasons to avoid soy, especially in regards to "fueling" after physical activity.

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on March 05, 2012
at 08:06 AM

Amazingly high price for low amount of protein and a lot of coconut powder...

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on March 03, 2012
at 02:24 AM

What's the point of calling yourself Paleo if you're still going to drink that stuff? Might as well call it Atkins.

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on March 03, 2012
at 01:36 AM

I should also point out... Another damaging factor with ion-exchange processing is that it is known to form lysinoalanine, a bonded amino acid compound that results in losses of the following amino acids: Cysteine, Threonine, Serine, Lysine. High amounts of lysinoalanine found in ion-exchange whey and may produce adverse effects on growth, protein digestibility, protein quality, and mineral bioavailability and digestibility.

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on March 03, 2012
at 01:29 AM

I've seen this probiotic protein before... It's actually NOT a good whey protein. They use Ion-Exchanged processing, which is harmful to the human body, and results in the destruction of all the immune enhancing protein fractions and Glycomacropeptides (GMP). If you look at the label, the GMP is at 1% compared to other brands that have 18%. GMP's are important because they contain high amounts of BCAA's, it controls digestive health, and promoting lean muscle. I did a search for New Zealand Whey and found this brand http://ergogenicsnutrition.com They use CFM processing, which is better!!!

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on February 29, 2012
at 10:54 PM

People in prison are also not eating paleo. I'm not surviving off protein shakes, just want to give my body a little extra boost!

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on February 28, 2012
at 06:42 AM

Toni. I am glad you saw my correction... I do not see your comment on the main post though...

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on February 28, 2012
at 01:19 AM

Thank you, Pierce.

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on February 28, 2012
at 12:53 AM

+1 for the avatar...

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on February 27, 2012
at 11:04 PM

If your body needed protein shakes, people in prison would not be able to put on muscle nor retain what they have, on far - far less than 1gram of protein/day.

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on February 27, 2012
at 09:14 PM

Eric -- See the comment I've added to the main post!

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on February 27, 2012
at 06:52 PM

It's not bad! I don't notice a smell at all, and I don't notice any taste from it either when I just use one scoop per shake.

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on February 27, 2012
at 05:46 PM

How does their egg white protein smell? I got a bunch of egg white protein from MyProtein but won't be able to use it as it stinks up the house, gym and office so much that it disgusts everyone in the area.

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on February 27, 2012
at 05:36 PM

Eh, I don't think anyone here would find anything wrong with real food/ is subsisting on protein shakes. For me, every few months or so, I buy a WOD package at my nearest Crossfit affiliate which is 45 mins away, and I drive straight up from work. With my meals for work and workout gear that I'm packing up and lugging around, it makes life a little easier to bring a shake for my PWO meal & chug it on the way home.

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on February 27, 2012
at 01:07 PM

sounds good. thanks for the suggestion.

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on February 27, 2012
at 06:57 AM

The flavored version has soy.

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on February 27, 2012
at 06:56 AM

I changed my post. Original is the way to go.

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on February 27, 2012
at 05:48 AM

Hmm. I don't know what to make of this because the container I have says it doesn't have soy. I wonder if they're product page is out of date? Or...is the container mislabeled? I would think the latter would be a violation of the law!

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on February 27, 2012
at 02:59 AM

Yes. It depends on your goals. Back in the day, the bodybuilders used tons of tuna and a gallon or two of milk a day to build muscle. It worked fine for them, and it can work fine for you. If you want to eat tons of tuna and gallons of milk a day... Or you can eat your regular meals and take protein shakes to supplement after workouts. Note, no one says only drink shakes.

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on February 27, 2012
at 02:33 AM

Optimum Nutrition Whey is good and cheap. Double Rich Chocolate tastes decent.

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on February 27, 2012
at 12:29 AM

...sooooo are protein shakes and whatnot a hell of a lot more optimal for building mass than eating cans of tuna and drinking moderate amounts of milk?

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on February 26, 2012
at 11:53 PM

Compare the protein levels. You can get substantially more protein through shakes than through real foods. Depending on your goals, you want more protein than the diet can provide.

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on February 26, 2012
at 09:06 PM

Bluebonnet's product page indicates that the whey protein isolate powder does contain soy: http://www.bluebonnetnutrition.com/product/41/100%25_Natural_Whey_Protein_Isolate_Powder

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on February 26, 2012
at 08:18 PM

Toni - I am going by memory but I think the origional flavor has more additives. It was my first instinct to grab the original flavor but I compared both and went with Vanilla.

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on February 26, 2012
at 07:53 PM

I'm looking at the ingredients list for my Bluebonnet Whey Protein Isolate. It says "Free of eggs, fish, crustacean shellfish, tree nuts, wheat and soybeans." So, no soybeans!

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on February 26, 2012
at 07:51 PM

I like the original flavor! I buy this at Amazon and take a scoop a day.

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at 07:31 PM

Which one has soy?

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A4587cfef29863db612c43f89c202cc1

on February 26, 2012
at 09:20 PM

Protein powders have been a part of my life for a long time - since I started playing football at age 15. Does anyone remember Joe Weider's "Mega Mass 3000" back in the 90s? A couple of years ago I discovered Ori Hofmekler, author of "The Warrior Diet." He sells an organic whey protein powder made from pastured cow milk that is delicious. I've used it a lot. You can quickly mix it into a pudding or a shake. One time I called in to order some and Ori answered the phone - kind of cool.

http://www.defensenutrition.com/products.php

Now, that being said, I'm not currently using protein powders. I'm getting all of my protein from real food sources. I don't buy the convenience factor of protein powders any more. I keep grass fed beef jerky and pouches of tuna fish around. If I need a quick, portable protein source, I have it from real food. If, at some point, I need to up my protein intake and I start having a hard time doing it with real food then I will supplement with a protein powder and it will be the Warrior Whey that I mentioned here.

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on February 28, 2012
at 01:19 AM

Thank you, Pierce.

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on February 28, 2012
at 12:53 AM

+1 for the avatar...

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on February 26, 2012
at 06:51 PM

Why not just eat a grassfed bison or beef steak? Or some wild caught fish? No seriously, what's wrong with real food that we should get our food from overprocessed powders?

5e36f73c3f95eb4ea13a009f4936449f

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on February 26, 2012
at 11:53 PM

Compare the protein levels. You can get substantially more protein through shakes than through real foods. Depending on your goals, you want more protein than the diet can provide.

D117467bf8e8472464ece2b81509606c

(2873)

on February 27, 2012
at 12:29 AM

...sooooo are protein shakes and whatnot a hell of a lot more optimal for building mass than eating cans of tuna and drinking moderate amounts of milk?

24fcc21452ebe39c032be6801d6bbadd

(9812)

on February 27, 2012
at 05:36 PM

Eh, I don't think anyone here would find anything wrong with real food/ is subsisting on protein shakes. For me, every few months or so, I buy a WOD package at my nearest Crossfit affiliate which is 45 mins away, and I drive straight up from work. With my meals for work and workout gear that I'm packing up and lugging around, it makes life a little easier to bring a shake for my PWO meal & chug it on the way home.

5e36f73c3f95eb4ea13a009f4936449f

(8280)

on February 27, 2012
at 02:59 AM

Yes. It depends on your goals. Back in the day, the bodybuilders used tons of tuna and a gallon or two of milk a day to build muscle. It worked fine for them, and it can work fine for you. If you want to eat tons of tuna and gallons of milk a day... Or you can eat your regular meals and take protein shakes to supplement after workouts. Note, no one says only drink shakes.

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on February 27, 2012
at 01:07 PM

sounds good. thanks for the suggestion.

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on August 30, 2015
at 10:16 PM

Kind of a loaded question; if cavemen had doughnuts, they'd probably have eaten them. 
Personally, I stay away from anything that can't be grown on a tree or an animal. 

High quality animal protein is much better for you than processed whey products. Meat can be expensive, but organic eggs and grass-fed dairy (if dairy is okay for you) are great protein sources. 

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on April 03, 2013
at 02:02 PM

The main reason I don't use powders is because my principle attraction to paleo is about whole natural foods as opposed to processed ones. Not necessarily just trying to reinact what the caveman did. How much protein are you trying to eat? I don't find it hard to get 80-100 per day from food.

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on April 03, 2013
at 12:17 PM

Hello,

I recently bought a whey concentrate from my local store, but found out to late that it was filled with Sucralose etc. So I did (some) research en found this undenatured Whey Protein concentrate. The only odd thing in the ingredients is Soy Lecithin

http://www.myprotein.com/sports-nutrition/impact-whey-protein/10530943.html

Can anyone confirm that this is a decent whey supplement for in my breakfast?

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

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on April 03, 2013
at 01:26 PM

I wouldn't sweat it if you've already purchased it, but I would continue looking for a type that doesn't contain soy if you haven't.

Bf250157cfe2533ffe65063514fb33c3

on April 03, 2013
at 08:42 PM

alright, the problem is i'm in the netherlands and I can't find a denatured whey.. If I have to ship from the USA it costs me 45 dollars, so do you know a online store in Europe that sells it??

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on March 04, 2012
at 11:14 PM

Anyone heard or have tried this protein powder? Seems legit but you never know!

http://simplypurenutrients.com/designsentry_portf/pro3-synergy-fuel

5e36f73c3f95eb4ea13a009f4936449f

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on March 05, 2012
at 08:06 AM

Amazingly high price for low amount of protein and a lot of coconut powder...

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on March 03, 2012
at 01:53 AM

I use 100% New Zealand Whey Protein by Ergogenics Nutrition

  • 31g of protein per serving.

  • Uses CFM processing ONLY!

  • It's Non-GMO. Antibiotic, Hormone and Pesticide Free!

  • 100% All Natural Ingredients.

  • Contains No preservatives, colours, wheat, gluten, yeast, artificial flavours and sweeteners.

http://ergogenicsnutrition.com

http://newzealandwhey.com

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on February 27, 2012
at 11:01 PM

I've made my own combining Whey Iso, Egg White, Hemp, & MCT powders. (in various %). Add some fz fruit which I rotate but usually any combo of: mangoes, bl berries, straw, pineapple, etc. I use coconut milk and some type of green juice, and frequently add some type of oil. I have at least one shake a day because I get tired of chewing! Oh, and it's 50+gm of protein. -Billy

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on February 27, 2012
at 09:13 PM

Re: Bluebonnet Whey Protein Isolate. I sent an email to the company and asked about the discrepancy on the label v. the website regarding soy and just got this response:

"The raw material supplier recently made a change in the product and the new labels read 'contains Soybeans.' NON-GMO Soy lecithin is used in the agglomeration process to help instantize the whey powder to stir into beverages."

Can someone tell me if this type of soy is Paleo or not!

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

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on April 03, 2013
at 01:23 PM

No type of soy is paleo. Paleo or not, there are plenty of reasons to avoid soy, especially in regards to "fueling" after physical activity.

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on February 27, 2012
at 05:32 PM

I use Now Foods egg white protein; I sometimes go to a Crossfit affiliate 45 mins from home, and I like having a shake to drink on the ride back. I usually do a scoop of protein mixed with kefir, a few TBS of pumpkin, some pumpkin spice and a little honey.

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on February 27, 2012
at 06:52 PM

It's not bad! I don't notice a smell at all, and I don't notice any taste from it either when I just use one scoop per shake.

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on February 27, 2012
at 05:46 PM

How does their egg white protein smell? I got a bunch of egg white protein from MyProtein but won't be able to use it as it stinks up the house, gym and office so much that it disgusts everyone in the area.

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on February 27, 2012
at 04:31 PM

I personally love Now Foods 100% Whey Protein Isolate. I buy 5 pound tubs on Amazon for a very decent price. It's plain with no flavor which is why its awesome for smoothies.

http://whey.primaltoad.com

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on February 27, 2012
at 04:25 PM

Jay Robb - http://www.jayrobb.com/protein/whey-protein-vanilla.asp

It's easy to find in various flavors, tastes good, and uses stevia as sweetener instead of chemicals. This is from the website linked above.

"Jay Robb uses the highest grade of whey protein possible when creating the best-tasting whey protein powder. This unique process also yields a whey protein isolate that is much higher in protein than a whey protein concentrate and is also rich in immunoglobulins, alpha-lactalbumin, and beta-lactoalbumin and other immune boosting factors. Jay Robb's Whey Protein is made from the finest natural ingredients available and delivers 25 grams of first class protein, 0-fat, 0-cholesterol, 0-sugars, and only 1 gram of carbohydrate per 30 gram serving. Only cold-processed cross-flow microfiltered whey protein isolate is used as the protein source and this material comes from farm-raised, pasture-grazed, grass-fed cows not treated with the synthetic bovine growth hormone rBGH."

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on February 26, 2012
at 09:28 PM

Dr. Mercola's protein powers?

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on February 26, 2012
at 08:27 PM

the best tasting is nutribiotics vegan vanilla protein powder. good stuff

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on February 26, 2012
at 07:01 PM

I use carnivore powder, whey bothers my stomach.

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at 05:58 PM

I noticed they use soybeans in there protein powders...a big no no if you are paleo!! I use 100% New Zealand Protein Probiotic all good stuff! BENEFITS

  • 5 billion CFU PROLIFETM probiotics per serving
  • 25g of protein per serving
  • 100% New Zealand Whey. Non-GMO; Antibiotic, Hormone and Pesticide Free
  • 100% Natural. No preservatives, colours, wheat, gluten, yeast, artificial flavours or sweeteners.

http://quantumnutrition.ca/products.html

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on February 26, 2012
at 07:53 PM

I'm looking at the ingredients list for my Bluebonnet Whey Protein Isolate. It says "Free of eggs, fish, crustacean shellfish, tree nuts, wheat and soybeans." So, no soybeans!

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on February 26, 2012
at 07:31 PM

Which one has soy?

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on February 27, 2012
at 06:57 AM

The flavored version has soy.

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on February 26, 2012
at 09:06 PM

Bluebonnet's product page indicates that the whey protein isolate powder does contain soy: http://www.bluebonnetnutrition.com/product/41/100%25_Natural_Whey_Protein_Isolate_Powder

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on February 27, 2012
at 05:48 AM

Hmm. I don't know what to make of this because the container I have says it doesn't have soy. I wonder if they're product page is out of date? Or...is the container mislabeled? I would think the latter would be a violation of the law!

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on March 03, 2012
at 01:36 AM

I should also point out... Another damaging factor with ion-exchange processing is that it is known to form lysinoalanine, a bonded amino acid compound that results in losses of the following amino acids: Cysteine, Threonine, Serine, Lysine. High amounts of lysinoalanine found in ion-exchange whey and may produce adverse effects on growth, protein digestibility, protein quality, and mineral bioavailability and digestibility.

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on March 03, 2012
at 01:29 AM

I've seen this probiotic protein before... It's actually NOT a good whey protein. They use Ion-Exchanged processing, which is harmful to the human body, and results in the destruction of all the immune enhancing protein fractions and Glycomacropeptides (GMP). If you look at the label, the GMP is at 1% compared to other brands that have 18%. GMP's are important because they contain high amounts of BCAA's, it controls digestive health, and promoting lean muscle. I did a search for New Zealand Whey and found this brand http://ergogenicsnutrition.com They use CFM processing, which is better!!!

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on February 26, 2012
at 04:56 PM

Blue Bonnet Whey. However get the original flavor. From their website:

Bluebonnet’s 100% Natural Whey Protein Isolate is sourced from grass-fed cows in New Zealand that are not treated with antibiotics or recombinant bovine growth hormone (rBGH), also known as bovine somatotropin (BST). Additionally, whey protein has the highest biological value (BV) of any protein on the market, which refers to a protein that has all of the essential amino acids in adequate quantities to sustain growth and development. That’s why Bluebonnet’s 100% Natural Whey Protein Isolate uses high-quality, microfiltered whey protein isolate with important, naturally-occurring immunoglobulins, which help support the immune system. Whey is also a rich and natural source of branched chain amino acids (BCAAs) and glutamic acid.

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on February 26, 2012
at 08:18 PM

Toni - I am going by memory but I think the origional flavor has more additives. It was my first instinct to grab the original flavor but I compared both and went with Vanilla.

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on February 26, 2012
at 07:51 PM

I like the original flavor! I buy this at Amazon and take a scoop a day.

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on February 27, 2012
at 06:56 AM

I changed my post. Original is the way to go.

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on February 27, 2012
at 09:14 PM

Eric -- See the comment I've added to the main post!

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at 06:42 AM

Toni. I am glad you saw my correction... I do not see your comment on the main post though...

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