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Please hack: am I intoxicated?

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Created February 08, 2012 at 9:52 AM

I've been eating paleo for about a month now. For the last few weeks I was defecating in a more liquid manner, always in the morning. For the last two-three day, I've been going to the bathroom almost every time I ate.

I don't know if it is related, but this night, around 4am, I woke up because I wanted to pee, and ended up almost fainting in the floor of the bathroom (or at least, I though I was gonna faint during the whole time; plus I had no strength at all). I though I was going to vomit, but I had nothing to throw out. I was still feeling sick and dizzy; I finally pooped some almost liquid stuff (not much), and got to bed. I just got out of bed, and have an extrange feeling in my stomach (plus I have headache, and feel very tired, though I was in bed for around 10-12 hours). This is something I have never experienced in my life. Thinking about it, I realized I might have taken some unfresh guacamole yesterday, but I am not sure that could be it.

I've been looking for a paleo doctor around me, but there is obviously no one (I live in Spain). I might go to my usual doctor in a few hours, anyway; but please, help me hack this thing.

Thank you :)

MORE INFO: I have never had circulation issues, and yes, the weakness is only present since yesterday; I usually do exercise about 30-60 min a day just after waking up, and have been feeling quite energetic until now, actually.

I don't eat dairy, and my consumption of eggs is not huge. I have, however, started to eat nuts and chocolate. BUT, I've been eating this way since the very beginning of my paleo-change, so don't see what could have possibly happened.

Right now, I fell my belly is completely full, and have some nausea.

Finally, my chronometer data for the last 7 days looks like this (not including Omega-3 and Multi supplement) http://imageshack.us/f/853/settings1t.png/

Update: Went to the doctor the very evening after that. Told me it would be "probably nothing" and to sleep it off. Right now, 3-4 days after, I feel fine, but I have the feeling of a full stomach, and am not ever hungry. What is this!?

34b560c8b9ce660d7839fb7e29d7be89

on February 11, 2012
at 09:41 PM

Just the three factors combining to lower his blood pressure all at once which resulted in less oxygen reaching the brain momentarily.

72514a20539cf9cc057b9797fab54920

(55)

on February 11, 2012
at 08:45 PM

I see. What was it, you fathers problem? I only ask because, as I said before, the doctor sent me to sleep it off...

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on February 11, 2012
at 02:42 PM

I agree you should go to a doctor - could be gastroparesis (delayed emptying of the stomach) but the liquid stools could be anything. Hope you feel better soon,

34b560c8b9ce660d7839fb7e29d7be89

on February 08, 2012
at 11:05 PM

It's a hypothetical, *if* it happens again and this time you do actually faint it *could* be serious. This exact thing happened to my father and he was lucky to only recieve a few stiches in his brow.

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on February 08, 2012
at 05:43 PM

Thanks for closing this. Such questions should be put to an ER physician.

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on February 08, 2012
at 04:12 PM

Milla is right. As a nurse, I see this kind of thing frequently. Diarrhea causes significant fluid loss and dehydration resulting in a fluid volume deficit. Your blood pressure drops precipitously which can account for the "fainting" feeling. Dehydration causes electrolyte disturbances which cause muscle weakness, nausea. If this progresses to numbness and tingling in the extremities or involuntary muscle twitching, it's time for a trip to the ER for some IV fluid replacement before the electrolyte disturbance causes any cardiac dysrhythmias or arrest.

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(55)

on February 08, 2012
at 04:11 PM

I do already have the appointment for tonight. As I said, posting the question did not rule out (at all) going to the doctor, but I did wanted some feedback on it, specially to know if something like this did happened to anyone before after a paleodiet change, so that could be ruled out (or not).

72514a20539cf9cc057b9797fab54920

(55)

on February 08, 2012
at 04:11 PM

I do already have the appointment for tonight. As I said, posting the question did not rule out (at all) going to the doctor, but I did wanted some feedback on it, specially to know if something like this did happen to anyone before after a paleodiet change, so that could be ruled out (or not).

72514a20539cf9cc057b9797fab54920

(55)

on February 08, 2012
at 04:09 PM

No, I did not faint, finally; It just felt like I was gonna; but that is not, in any case, something that has ever happened to me, so I wouldn't really know.

34b560c8b9ce660d7839fb7e29d7be89

on February 08, 2012
at 03:57 PM

Thanks, MelissaHGL.

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on February 08, 2012
at 03:53 PM

please see a doctor or go to the ER and I will re-open this

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on February 08, 2012
at 03:09 PM

I totally agree - sounds very much like a severe, but not nearly-fatal allergic reaction.

72514a20539cf9cc057b9797fab54920

(55)

on February 08, 2012
at 12:48 PM

I updated the data. Is that enough?

72514a20539cf9cc057b9797fab54920

(55)

on February 08, 2012
at 12:41 PM

I have posted more info, like requested. Thank you for your help, Milla.

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on February 08, 2012
at 12:09 PM

Please describe your current diet, supplements, etc.

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34b560c8b9ce660d7839fb7e29d7be89

on February 08, 2012
at 01:34 PM

Good lord! See the doctor first, paleo or not. The fact that you've been paleo for a month but have not had the aforementioned symptoms until more recently indicates that it could be merely coincidence. Rule that out first, then you might experiment with an elimination diet to verify whether or not the symptoms are allergies or otherwise diet related. Could be something as simple as inadequate bile production for higher fat intake due to a lifetime of lower fat intake, the body may just need a period of adjustment, but for goodness sakes rule out the alternatives. If you actually fainted and experienced serious trauma to the head that could definitely be more serious than the damage you might do from eating a diet that is not in keeping with evolution.

Edit in response to update:

I'm glad you went to see a doctor. Like I commented, things like this can become more serious than they need to if not addressed properly. In the case of my father he had a nighttime leg cramp (doc said pain elicits fight-flight response which can lower blood pressure) and got up quickly (strike two) in response at that point he went to the bathroom (she also said that elimination of any kind also lowers blood pressure, strike three) and fainted for the first time in his life hitting his head on the edge of the counter, could have gotten really serious.

You might have simply gotten food poisoning from something you ate, perhaps the flu or some other kind of infection. It's also possible that your symptoms are related to some kind of herxheimer reaction, a die-off of bacteria or yeast related to the change in diet which can release toxic by-products. If that's the case it may take a little while before a new population of beneficial bacteria repopulates, probiotics and fermented foods may help the process.

72514a20539cf9cc057b9797fab54920

(55)

on February 08, 2012
at 04:09 PM

No, I did not faint, finally; It just felt like I was gonna; but that is not, in any case, something that has ever happened to me, so I wouldn't really know.

34b560c8b9ce660d7839fb7e29d7be89

on February 08, 2012
at 11:05 PM

It's a hypothetical, *if* it happens again and this time you do actually faint it *could* be serious. This exact thing happened to my father and he was lucky to only recieve a few stiches in his brow.

34b560c8b9ce660d7839fb7e29d7be89

on February 11, 2012
at 09:41 PM

Just the three factors combining to lower his blood pressure all at once which resulted in less oxygen reaching the brain momentarily.

72514a20539cf9cc057b9797fab54920

(55)

on February 11, 2012
at 08:45 PM

I see. What was it, you fathers problem? I only ask because, as I said before, the doctor sent me to sleep it off...

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on February 08, 2012
at 10:39 AM

Sounds like you're allergic to something you eat really regularly. And everytime you eat it, your body tries to flush it out - along with it all the calories and precious nutrients. Hence, the weakness you experience.

What are your staples? Anything you've introduced when you went paleo?

Common culprits are:

  • nuts/coconut
  • dairy
  • eggs
  • nightshades
  • foods rich in salicylates

Also, avoid impurities, such as traces of gluten, or cheap olive oil (which is often diluted with soy oil or hazelnut oil), if you're sensitive

I would recommend to get tested for common food allergies when you see your doctor. If possible include some paleo staples like coconut, macadamia etc. if you eat those frequently.

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(19150)

on February 08, 2012
at 03:09 PM

I totally agree - sounds very much like a severe, but not nearly-fatal allergic reaction.

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on February 08, 2012
at 12:13 PM

Hi xhenaro,

The particular episode you're talking about could indeed be the result of eating something unfresh. It could have been a fall in blood pressure, especially if you went very quickly from a horizontal lying position to standing. Have you had circulation issues before? Or, are you sensitive to changes in atmospheric pressures and weather in general? Today's headache and tiredness could be related to that if so.

However, you say you have liquid stools, and light diarrhea the last few days. You don't say if the tiredness/weakness only occured in that one incident or if you are tired all the time. If you are constantly tired, and have diarrhea, it could be a sign of a parasitic infection and I'd get a poop sample test done if I were you.

You also don't specify your exercise habits; weakness, and even gastrointestinal distress could be symptoms of overtraining.

If, however, the liquid stools are the only problem, and you say they have been worse over the last few days, it is possible that your are intolerant to some food you have introduced/increased consumption of when you went paleo. A lot of people start eating a lot of nuts, which can cause problems for those with delicate digestion. Are you eating dairy? If so, are you lactose-tolerant? If not, that may be the issue. Some people, as Thomy said, also have issues with salicylate-containing foods (spinach, tomatoes, courgettes, eggplant, etc) nightshades (potatoes, eggplant, tomatoes...). If the problem persists you might want to try eliminating potential irritants.

Good luck, get well!

Milla

EDIT after update: since you say this is recent, I doubt its a parasite since symptoms with these have a considerable time lag.

I think the problem is simple dehydration/electrolyte imbalance. Since you've been having liquid stools for a while, if you have not been hydrating yourself adequately, you will have an electrolyte imbalance. Dehydration causes light headedness, weakness, and nausea. Try drinking some coconut water, which is rich in potassium and restores electrolyte balance.

Conversely, sudden weakness, nausea, and bloating could well be signs of mild food poisoning/some stomach bug. Same thing - keep yourself hydrated, perhaps take some activated charcoal, drink some ginger/peppermint/chamomile tea. If your symptoms get worse, especially if you start getting cramping and abdominal pain, go to a doctor! You don't really need a paleo-friendly doctor for this since I doubt this episode has to do with your diet beyond what you ate specifically on the day your symptoms appeared.

Once this is dealt with, you can try eliminating foods to see what is causing your loose BMs, and continue your search for a paleo doctor (good luck with that!).

72514a20539cf9cc057b9797fab54920

(55)

on February 08, 2012
at 12:41 PM

I have posted more info, like requested. Thank you for your help, Milla.

5df8a6edeed9746c2674adc272854b9b

on February 08, 2012
at 04:12 PM

Milla is right. As a nurse, I see this kind of thing frequently. Diarrhea causes significant fluid loss and dehydration resulting in a fluid volume deficit. Your blood pressure drops precipitously which can account for the "fainting" feeling. Dehydration causes electrolyte disturbances which cause muscle weakness, nausea. If this progresses to numbness and tingling in the extremities or involuntary muscle twitching, it's time for a trip to the ER for some IV fluid replacement before the electrolyte disturbance causes any cardiac dysrhythmias or arrest.

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