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Can anyone explain my groggy morning state to me?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created July 27, 2011 at 6:35 AM

Sorry for long post. I have always been one of those people who wakes up dead to the world. Snooze alarm over and over. I accept this as the way I am. Usually.

I have suffered from chronic fatigure syndrome for 30 years, but the morning grogginess predates the CFS.

A few times, this has switched off for a few months.

Years ago I had acupressure. I started waking up way before the alarm clock feeling great and had much higher energy during the day. This lasted a few months then everything went back to my normal low energy state.

A few months ago I possibly got some virus or something. I went from being completely regular to having a loose and smelly movements (sorry about the TMI). I started waking at night and not falling back to sleep which was making me feel terrible (I need my sleep). The waking up middle of night slowly stopped, but the loose-ish stool continued. For months I'd wake before the alarm clock rang and woke refreshed.

In the past, kombucha has been good for my BM, so I started drinking it to fix my BM situtation and lo and behold, it worked. Within about a week, I was back to odorless, perfect poo. But I'm also back to waking groggy with (not before) the alarm clock and feeling like a dead person for 2 - 3 hours. My thinking is not sharp and I feel like I can't see as clearly, although I'd venture a guess that it isn't really visual acquity, but my brain in some sort of a coma. My energy level during the day is just a bit lower.

Not sure if there is any connection between the BM and the sleep/grogginess pattern, but they did start and stop together.

Can anyone make sense of this? And if you can, am I better off with shitty poo and beautiful mornings, or perfect poo and waking in a coma?

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on July 28, 2011
at 05:15 AM

my vote is for beautiful mornings, hands down. see if you can get yr poo straight without kombucha?

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on July 27, 2011
at 02:57 PM

"Chronic Fatigue Syndrome" = "Closing the bars every night"? LOL

5266ac5977ec9d80ac8047697dbbe55b

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on July 27, 2011
at 02:20 PM

It is almost too easy to hide these days behind some sort of "medical condition." I went to college with a kid that abused ADHD drugs for years, THEN got a prescription for it, then used it to get extra time on exams. Now he's in medical school. Makes me all sorts of enthusiastic about the current medical system.

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on July 27, 2011
at 02:13 PM

All good advice, but I toggled between two completely separate sleep states without changing my carbs/magnesium/LED/window light etc. Whatever causes the change (and that's what I'd like to find out) has has nothing to do with these conditions.

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on July 27, 2011
at 12:34 PM

Wow that's nuts! If I were a manager there, I'd be pissed!

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on July 27, 2011
at 12:28 PM

"Can anyone make sense of this? And if you can, am I better off with shitty poo and beautiful mornings, or perfect poo and waking in a coma?"

If they are truly connected, only you can make that decision - of course I am assuming nobody here lives with you and walks into a stinky bathroom after you. I also assume nobody here has to depend on your alertness level in the morning.

I'm not suggesting this is the case for you, but only tell the story for enjoyment:

I used to work with a woman that had CFS and couldn't get out of bed before 9am and showed up to work at 10:30 am (everyone else had to start at 7:30 am). We let her do this because she was a good worker and this was a medical issue. However, after several years of this and changes in upper management, the company decided to pay for a sleep study to see if they could help her and in turn help the company.

She recorded everything she ate/drank and what time she went to bed as well as the quality of sleep for 1 month. Then she went to a sleep chamber for a couple nights so that they could assess her sleep.

The doctors report said that she was normal in their tests and should try going to bed before 2 am and quit drinking so much alcohol if she wanted to wake up early.

We asked her about her CFS diagnosis and she said she was never diagnosed but assumed she had it. Our management was pretty upset and made her come into work at a normal time. For about a week she was late and having problems, but she eventually settled into a normal shedule and for the next several years that we worked together, she was able to get in early and function in the morning.

24fcc21452ebe39c032be6801d6bbadd

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on July 27, 2011
at 12:34 PM

Wow that's nuts! If I were a manager there, I'd be pissed!

5266ac5977ec9d80ac8047697dbbe55b

(738)

on July 27, 2011
at 02:20 PM

It is almost too easy to hide these days behind some sort of "medical condition." I went to college with a kid that abused ADHD drugs for years, THEN got a prescription for it, then used it to get extra time on exams. Now he's in medical school. Makes me all sorts of enthusiastic about the current medical system.

9a5e2da94ad63ea3186dfa494e16a8d1

(15833)

on July 27, 2011
at 02:57 PM

"Chronic Fatigue Syndrome" = "Closing the bars every night"? LOL

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on July 27, 2011
at 12:27 PM

Try magnesium citrate like "Natural Calm" in the evening. Make sure you're not eating too many carbs. Make sure there are no light sources in your bedroom - cover LEDs, block light from windows, go to bed earlier, be sure to get 8-9+ hours of sleep, but start earlier rather than stay in bed later, put your clock across the room so you have to get up to turn it off. In and out of sleep every 10 minutes is exhausting. Use low lights in the evening. Don't do anything in your bed room other than sleep and sex. Read "Lights Out" http://www.amazon.com/Lights-Out-Sleep-Sugar-Survival/dp/0671038680 It's a tough read because the author is a fairly poor writer, but the advice is very effective.

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on July 27, 2011
at 02:13 PM

All good advice, but I toggled between two completely separate sleep states without changing my carbs/magnesium/LED/window light etc. Whatever causes the change (and that's what I'd like to find out) has has nothing to do with these conditions.

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9a5e2da94ad63ea3186dfa494e16a8d1

on July 27, 2011
at 03:03 PM

I am no doctor, but I think that there is more at play than energy levels and your digestion. These are both symptoms that can be related to IBS, Celiac issues, other inflammation in your system, etc.

You did not say anything about your diet, exercise, etc. A lot of people find relief from similar symptoms by switching to a Paleo diet or simply by eliminating gluten and sugar. Other people (you can read testimonials here) "hack" their bodies by experimenting with eliminating different food groups (dairy, nightshade-based vegetables, etc) and adding in different kinds of exercises (strength, cardio, walks, etc) to see what works for them.

If you are eating a diet that includes gluten, sugar, dairy, and are overweight, I think you should look into these issues and try some of the solutions that have worked for others.

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