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Ever decided to cheat just to see how sick you would feel?

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Created April 28, 2011 at 5:04 AM

Have you ever been of the mind (perhaps influenced by a day of celebrating) to indulge in a HUGE cheat...say, a Domino's pizza, just to see how badly you might feel the next day?

I have an early lease signing, then a job interview for a potentially very lucrative bar tomorrow, and I'm about to (in my right mind) eat half a Domino's pizza in celebration, after 2 months of clean eating, just to see how it will affect me.

What can I expect? How bad has it been for you? Have you ever been so foolish?

UPDATE:
Well the results are in...and they don't look (or feel) very good! Today when I woke up, my hands were curled up into claws, and when I stretched them out...OUCH! Even though I've never had arthritis, I can imagine this is what it feels like. My joints, especially in my hands and feet, were so stiff and sore. My skin is red and itchy. I feel like I'm in a mental fog...cant think clearly. I worked out on Tuesday, and I expected to be sore today as I went hard, but this is worse. My muscle soreness seems to be more intense than it usually is if I keep Paleo. Perhaps that's just timing. I was up all night with the worst heartburn, feeling like if I puked I would feel much better. My body was rebelling against the poison, and it just wanted it out, but I fought through it bravely (what hubris!) for the sake of my experiment. I'm also suffering from some stuffed sinuses and seasonal sneezing and watery eyes. At the start of the allergy season I had a small taste of the symptoms, but my immune system fought them off like a champ...I think I temporarily crippled it today.

No GI symptoms as yet, but I feel them coming. The most damning evidence of all however? A small zit on my nose. Oh the evils of HFCS teamed with a gluten overload, topped with processed cheese garbage and industrial meat discs. Never again.

UPDATE 2:
Sorry to be so forthcoming, but the GI symptoms just rocked my world. Who knew crappy pizza could turn green?!

UPDATE 3:
Did it again! My girlfriend was over at her friend Sarah's house for the night, and I had been craving junk all day long, no idea why. So I ordered Domino's again. Woof...bad idea. Usually I'm a fast learner, but I guess I have a propensity for self-abuse.

DISCLAIMER: Based on a particular response, I feel as if I should explain that this is not an advocation of eating poorly, or "cheat meals," as it were. This is simply an extension of n=1 and evaluation of results in the spirit of self-experimentation. I would never recommend an ex-heroin junkie try his old does just to see what the withdrawals are like, but I think it is useful to examine the effects/withdrawals of a backslide less immediately deadly, to really put into perspective the power of what we eat. I also think it's pretty humorous to talk about diarrhea openly on the internet. C'est la vie!

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on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

downvoted then decided to remove the downvote -- but i can't! The arrows take it from -1 to +1. I want to return to neutral -- zero. So don't count my downvote.

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on November 06, 2011
at 08:27 PM

yeah...not quite sure why you're here... Are you researching a potential change to Paleo?

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on November 06, 2011
at 07:57 PM

Wow that's crazy that one drink would have done that to you! Wine tends to do that to me, one glass and my head is all fuzzy lol! It's something that I can't quite get my head around but do you think that it's because your body is so free of toxins/junk that it recognises alcohol as a poison? It's the only way I can figure it. Friday night my body just said 'no way' and I think that's why I was so ill. I don't need alcohol to have fun, but it's such a social thing to have a few drinks! May need to rejig my social life!

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on November 06, 2011
at 07:48 PM

Oh, also...alcohol seems to have more of an effect on me now...I find myself having pretty bad hangovers the next day, even if I do just have one drink.

5e6a6f5c0fd3ab048f81c0a500206f41

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on November 06, 2011
at 07:48 PM

I definitely cannot drink ilke I used to! I used to be able to pound em back, but I had one drink last night and I was done for...what can I say, I'm a cheap date now :)

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on November 06, 2011
at 07:31 PM

If you are vegan, why are you on this site? No judgement, just curious...

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on November 06, 2011
at 05:24 PM

In such an experiment, I also like to know what kind of ill-effects backsliding will have. I don't want to have to just believe what others say will happen, and I want to experience it intimately so that maybe it will discourage me from those feelings again. I have cravings occasionally, no matter how strong-willed I like to believe I am. This whole question is a focused attempt at connecting with my fellow paleo-hackers and I think, a very productive use of time. Remember that saying about making asses? Yeah, you shouldn't do that.

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on November 06, 2011
at 05:21 PM

I think it's nice that you edited your answer to make it less abusive, however your tone of smug arrogance is still quite evident. I have been "eating well" since January this year, and I'm quite proud of all the effects it has had on me. Technically speaking, this whole endeavor falls into the category of self-experimentation.

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on November 06, 2011
at 04:09 PM

Plus the study-of-the-week in the press says licorice has joined the list of things that are bad for you.

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on November 06, 2011
at 07:21 AM

Oh yah, totally +1. I've had that eaten/shat by large predator feeling from massive cheats too. :)

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on November 06, 2011
at 06:13 AM

There must be some award for when your overwhelming negativity and priggishness blinds you from seeing an attempt at lightening the mood through describing a shared experience in a humorous way...

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on November 06, 2011
at 02:57 AM

I agree, splurging once in a blue moon and feeling awful afterwards is great reinforcement for staying Paleo.

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on April 29, 2011
at 09:24 PM

That's not my experience. I started eating eggs and meat after a couple of vegetarian (nearly vegan) years and my digestion improved. Far less "wind propulsion" and fewer instances of cramps, bloating.

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on April 29, 2011
at 09:10 PM

During the emergency, when there were no shops, I ate beans and rice. I felt sick all the time, but I think that was more due to the situation than the food. For me there is a big difference between sugar/gluten products and beans/rice type things.

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on April 29, 2011
at 06:25 PM

do you go to the Brooklyn Barbell Club?

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on April 29, 2011
at 06:05 PM

When you say crappy pizza, I'd like to add that that should describe any wheat crust pizza. I had what I consider a "high quality" pizza from Papa Murphy's, and my symptoms were still severe. Now I just make my own pizza crust with root flours.

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on April 29, 2011
at 01:48 PM

Yeah, i avoided starting serious weight lifting for pretty much one whole year because I wasn't confident in any coach I came across or heard of. Then I found a very strength-biased Crossfit box and use them for lifting coaching.

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on April 29, 2011
at 02:05 AM

I actually was a vegetarian and even vegan for 20 years and began to eat meat again without issue. I did just dabble in meat for a bit because everyone said I'd get sick, but no problems what so ever.

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on April 29, 2011
at 02:04 AM

And me…I can tolerate sugar but not gluten..actually I'm rather happy about that!

Ab0369a70755bd07f44292b4ca8b2260

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on April 29, 2011
at 02:00 AM

Water, drink lots and lots of water.

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on April 28, 2011
at 11:03 PM

It really, truly is. How far are you?

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on April 28, 2011
at 09:52 PM

Giardano's is incredible. It alone is a good reason for me to make the drive to Chicago.

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on April 28, 2011
at 06:09 PM

well the diet and the movie fit together in some semiotic way. that makes it a meaningful experience after all.

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on April 28, 2011
at 06:05 PM

Ooof. That place is the devil. I used to binge on Rockits (and I have no idea why now, that place is awful!).

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on April 28, 2011
at 03:00 PM

Yes! I miss lifting heavy, mentally and physically. I worry too much without a coach though. Time to re-double the effort for a new trainer.

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on April 28, 2011
at 02:58 PM

It's amazing how having just a taste of something makes your brain crave it afterward for days! I caved and had a Zero Carb Monster during a VERY BAD DAY at work. Then for days I felt like I could hear it calling my name every time I walked past the vending machine! (Melissa! Drink me! I am delicious and will give you energy!)

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on April 28, 2011
at 02:57 PM

In Gandhi's case, he accidentally ate some meat, I believe. Been a long time since I read it.

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on April 28, 2011
at 02:56 PM

+1 for "I felt like I had been eaten by a wolf and shit over a cliff" Excellent imagery!

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on April 28, 2011
at 12:38 PM

Upvoted for Ozzy in tags.

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on April 28, 2011
at 06:35 AM

anyways, hope you feel better. and Stabby, i'm sure you're not a "dirty bat-shit crazy orthorexic" because, well because you are a raccoon.

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on April 28, 2011
at 06:18 AM

haha. I think you kind of just did, didn't you? Oh well. Your experiment was a success! I totally know what you mean by that "vomit" flavor. I think that's the taste of "cheese-esqeish product" and possibly cheap pepperoni.

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on April 28, 2011
at 06:14 AM

I'm sorry I laughed at your pain, but your description of St. Elmo's Fire just made me laugh again. So you're giving yourself a hangover on puropse and then topping it off by watching a terrible movie? Feeling guilty about something or what?

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on April 28, 2011
at 06:14 AM

I know I know. I'm considering downvoting myself.

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on April 28, 2011
at 06:06 AM

Believe it or not, alot of the good pizza places were closed. I feel like crap, and this movie I'm watching makes me feel even worse. Why is St. Elmo's Fire widely considered to be a classic? The characters are vapid, money-grubbing future republican a**holes and the plot is so underdeveloped it looks like a 5 year olds... Wow. Wheat is baaaaad. I'm pukey and cranky after half a pizza!

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on April 28, 2011
at 06:05 AM

Lol. It was Dominos (!), you didn't actually expect it to taste decent did you?

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on April 28, 2011
at 06:03 AM

I know....I'm really disappointed in myself already. It wasn't even delicious...hell, it wasn't even good. To be honest it tasted kind of like vomit. I don't think I'll be doing it again.

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on April 28, 2011
at 06:01 AM

I think the experience warding me say from ever doing it again was the motivation. We'll see if it works (I already feel like sh*******t), but I'm guessing it will.

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on April 28, 2011
at 02:42 PM

I guess I should admit to myself that I decided to cheat, but at the time I felt like I was being remotely controlled by the SAD alien mothership. From rock to bottom in 3 easy steps:

  1. Relent to an easter weekend endurance bike ride at "younger brother-in-law speed".
  2. Drink "just one" celebratory post-ride beer.
  3. Be the father to a daughter who doesn't like Cadbury Mini Eggs but gets a boat load from the easter bunny (read: grandma).

Through the magic of glycogen depletion and self-deception, one beer became eight, three eggs transmogrified into fistfuls, and chocolate cake with boiled icing seemed a more paleo option than cupcakes (c'mon...cavemen would have definitely eaten white icing over pink).

The next morning I felt like I had been eaten by a wolf and shit over a cliff. It took four eggs and a pound of bacon to revive me (go bacon!), but I still don't feel right.

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on April 28, 2011
at 02:56 PM

+1 for "I felt like I had been eaten by a wolf and shit over a cliff" Excellent imagery!

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on November 06, 2011
at 07:21 AM

Oh yah, totally +1. I've had that eaten/shat by large predator feeling from massive cheats too. :)

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on April 28, 2011
at 01:09 PM

OP - Glad to see you learned a lesson :)

A friend of mind nailed the "stages" of "cheat" foods:

  • In the beginning: "I need this, I'm not ready to give it up"
  • Making progress: "I've been so good for n weeks, I've earned this."
  • Transformation Complete: "It's not worth it, I'll regret it later."

I'm not religious about Paleo (okay, maybe I am) - but I've turned the corner on seeing S.A.D. food as celebratory. The last four months of strict Paleo has shown me just how much I was punishing my body with food.

Whenever I describe Paleo to friends, I never use the word "diet." In my opinion, "diet" and "dieting" implies that one is making a temporary change in the way they are eating for the purposes of weight loss. Scheduling a "cheat" here and there feels like dieting - as if there is a possibility that I may go back to eating S.A.D. some day.

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on April 28, 2011
at 05:15 AM

One word: Hangover.

I tried a Paleoish diet that suggests you take one day off a week as "cheat day" and eat anything and everything you might want. I felt so horrible the following day and it took almost a week of clean eating to feel normal again. The cheat day diet lasted just that week.

I don't think it's a bad idea, because if nothing else you'll think twice about doing it again.

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on April 28, 2011
at 06:01 AM

I think the experience warding me say from ever doing it again was the motivation. We'll see if it works (I already feel like sh*******t), but I'm guessing it will.

Ab0369a70755bd07f44292b4ca8b2260

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on April 29, 2011
at 02:00 AM

Water, drink lots and lots of water.

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on April 28, 2011
at 10:06 AM

Every once in a while I will. The first time I went strict paleo 100% for 4 months. After 4 months the competition I was training for was over me and some friends went out and I had Wings, Beer, McDonald Flurry and I suffered sever stomach pain.

The the point while I was in the bar I had to put my head down on the table, it was pretty bad and not worth the great taste of beer/icecream. I've had wings alone since with no issues, I can cope with one beer but I almost never drink and icecream just gives me constant phlegm in throat.

Moral of the story, I can take a small dose of things I do not normally eat, I can not take a large dose and I avoid almost everything now.

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on April 28, 2011
at 06:15 AM

Funny you should bring this up.... A friend and I started this diet on Lent (even though I'm not Catholic), and to celebrate 40 days of discipline we ate at Tyler Florence's restaurant in San Francisco called the Wayfare Tavern. I had a cocktail, beer, a popover, mac n cheese, mashed potatoes, 2 desserts (one being goat cheese cheesecake), coffee with cream and sugar, plus MORE and I didn't feel bad except for being SO INCREDIBLY FULL! I think this is a testament to the quality of the food and ingredients used.

However, a couple of days later I wanted to splurge on food I used to eat regularly. I work at Outback Steakhouse, so I was jonesing for some Coconut shrimp and Aussie Cheese Fries. I ate the shrimp, and the cheese fries, and 2 Shock Top beers....and I hated my life for the rest of the evening. I'm sure the oil used for deep-frying made me feel ill, but I know for FOR A FACT that the jack and cheddar cheese from the fries did me in. I swore off cheese at that point (except for occasionally goat cheese, parm, and feta).

I think though, that I needed to eat the fries for two reasons. One, I needed to get the want for cheese fries out of my system. And two, I needed to eat them to see how they really made me feel. So SPLURGE! Go CRAZY! It will teach you what makes you feel like shit, then you won't even want it any more.

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

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on April 28, 2011
at 02:58 PM

It's amazing how having just a taste of something makes your brain crave it afterward for days! I caved and had a Zero Carb Monster during a VERY BAD DAY at work. Then for days I felt like I could hear it calling my name every time I walked past the vending machine! (Melissa! Drink me! I am delicious and will give you energy!)

957a563c7e4a165663fd3c71207c39da

on November 06, 2011
at 02:57 AM

I agree, splurging once in a blue moon and feeling awful afterwards is great reinforcement for staying Paleo.

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on April 28, 2011
at 05:19 AM

Last night I ate very poor quality ice cream with "modified palm oil" to prove that I am not a dirty bat-shit crazy orthorexic. Today wasn't such a great day and I have a pimple in a bad spot to get a pimple. I think I would rather be completely off-the-wall "no fucking way I'll die before I'll eat bread. Who wants to fight I'll stab your face off" before I actually do eat junk again.

I can't say how pizza is going to work out for you but my guess is not so great. Don't be dumb, mang. I know you have the power. Eat a large amount of a good paleo food that you tend to restrict like nuts and fruit instead.

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on April 28, 2011
at 06:03 AM

I know....I'm really disappointed in myself already. It wasn't even delicious...hell, it wasn't even good. To be honest it tasted kind of like vomit. I don't think I'll be doing it again.

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on April 28, 2011
at 06:35 AM

anyways, hope you feel better. and Stabby, i'm sure you're not a "dirty bat-shit crazy orthorexic" because, well because you are a raccoon.

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on April 28, 2011
at 06:18 AM

haha. I think you kind of just did, didn't you? Oh well. Your experiment was a success! I totally know what you mean by that "vomit" flavor. I think that's the taste of "cheese-esqeish product" and possibly cheap pepperoni.

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on April 28, 2011
at 06:14 AM

I know I know. I'm considering downvoting myself.

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on April 28, 2011
at 06:05 AM

Lol. It was Dominos (!), you didn't actually expect it to taste decent did you?

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on November 06, 2011
at 04:49 PM

How ironic that I should stumble across this site today!

I've been Paleo for almost a year now and was hit by a HUGE realisation yesterday that I am UNABLE to cheat anymore, my body just won't allow it! I went out with friends on Friday night and had a meal at a Brazilian restaurant, some cocktails, shots and wine (yes, it was waaay too much booze - but I'm 26 years old and was having so much fun, I thought I would be fine)...... Biiiiig mistake!

At the end of the night I could not stop vomiting, my body completely rebelled against the food and alcohol, it was crazy! I felt pretty crappy yesterday as well and today I'm pretty wiped out.

I can't believe that I have become so sensitive - I was out with friends and they were both fine after the meal and drinks, and both fine yesterday as well! Granted, they both eat SAD (can I refer to it as SED as I live in England?!), so their bodies wouldn't have felt like they are being poisoned. I was wanting to blame either the food or the booze but it must have been a combination of both, although the meal consisted largely of meat and a little rice.

Has anybody else had this experience with alcohol? Can you just 'not' drink anymore, or have you had to greatly reduce the amount of alcohol that you consume? I'm not a seasoned drinker anyway so I don't know why I thought I could handle the amount that I drank on Friday (sigh). Paleo makes me feel so awesome - The extent of that cheat and the aftermath will haunt me for quite some time.

I had a similar experience a couple of months ago after eating Indian food, I spent the next day vomiting as well - My food sensitivities have increased so much in the last few months!

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on November 06, 2011
at 07:48 PM

I definitely cannot drink ilke I used to! I used to be able to pound em back, but I had one drink last night and I was done for...what can I say, I'm a cheap date now :)

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on November 06, 2011
at 07:57 PM

Wow that's crazy that one drink would have done that to you! Wine tends to do that to me, one glass and my head is all fuzzy lol! It's something that I can't quite get my head around but do you think that it's because your body is so free of toxins/junk that it recognises alcohol as a poison? It's the only way I can figure it. Friday night my body just said 'no way' and I think that's why I was so ill. I don't need alcohol to have fun, but it's such a social thing to have a few drinks! May need to rejig my social life!

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on November 06, 2011
at 07:48 PM

Oh, also...alcohol seems to have more of an effect on me now...I find myself having pretty bad hangovers the next day, even if I do just have one drink.

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on April 28, 2011
at 02:58 PM

In the last two weeks i've started occasionally eating a small bowl of white rice with sashimi if we go out to eat. I don't think in terms of cheat or not, but rice is definitely a grain and definitely pretty devoid of vitamins and nutrients. Its admittedly a less nutrient-dense starch than something like our beloved sweet potatoes, etc. i've started doing it for simple variety in my eating. Munching little granules is fun.

One thing I've learned while being paleo for over two years and lifting heavy for the past six months is that while on this strength-building regime I feel I can tolerate a greater number of foods in general. I don't really fear the effects of eating a bowl of white rice like I used to. I mean,

1) I am growing stronger at the moment so I feel my body makes better use of less-than-optimal fuel than it otherwise would, and

2) my digestive system is pretty solid so I know I'm gonna poop out everything in the morning anyhow.

I think the benefits of resistance-training with heavy weights is greatly understated in our society in general and also within our little club here. Of course it makes you feel good, stronger, maybe look a bit better, etc etc but I really think it is a feed-forward system of making you pick better food and then digest that food better. You can just handle more options I feel.

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on April 29, 2011
at 06:25 PM

do you go to the Brooklyn Barbell Club?

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on April 29, 2011
at 01:48 PM

Yeah, i avoided starting serious weight lifting for pretty much one whole year because I wasn't confident in any coach I came across or heard of. Then I found a very strength-biased Crossfit box and use them for lifting coaching.

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on April 28, 2011
at 03:00 PM

Yes! I miss lifting heavy, mentally and physically. I worry too much without a coach though. Time to re-double the effort for a new trainer.

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on April 28, 2011
at 12:21 PM

I do plan cheats occasionally, but more like, I have plans that I know may involve the possibility of eating non-Paleo foods. Back in my binging days I truly could feel myself planning the binge in my head and it's not like that at all.

New Year's Eve I had Giordano's Stuffed Pizza, that was worth it. I did feel bloated and had a carb rush/headache but the delicious cheesy goodness was still worth it.

Last month I had Cici's Pizza buffet with my daughter, that was not worth it. But, hanging out with the family and NOT being ~weird~ about my food (because they still eat SAD) WAS WORTH IT.

The deleterious effects usually wear off for me within a day. I'm okay with that.

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on April 28, 2011
at 11:03 PM

It really, truly is. How far are you?

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on April 28, 2011
at 09:52 PM

Giardano's is incredible. It alone is a good reason for me to make the drive to Chicago.

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on April 28, 2011
at 06:36 AM

Yes. After 2 months of strict Paleo I went and had a pizza, at about 8pm. I could only eat about half what I normally would have. By 11pm I had horrific acid reflux. It got so bad that I couldn't sleep until about 3am. I also had a headache for the next 24 hours. Never again.

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on May 11, 2011
at 12:32 AM

Actually i had this on other diets. I extra cheat on sweet cakes and crossaints. Often only to know that ill feel painful and sick afterwards. I more trust my body and acept his callings. Its still a challange.

Including animal prducts and being more strict again whats good and what not helped. also bing if you can. Binging is good. Actually only if you binge with good things. If you binge with good things you not binge with bad things. If you worry eating when your friend come along, eat before a lot, so you not wanna cheat so likely.

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on April 29, 2011
at 08:50 PM

I cheated on vacation and had pancakes 3 mornings at a great breakfast restaurant (they came with my omelet and I didn't have the will power to say no). I did not have any intestinal issues but I don't have gluten sensitivity. I did feel bloated and gained 4 pounds that week though :(

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on April 29, 2011
at 04:31 PM

I didn't try to do this, but found myself in a situation recently where the ONLY food I could have for about 16 hours was a bagel. I've never done a fast, so I ate 1/2 of it. A few hours later I was paying for it - laying on my bed, holding my bloated stomach and moaning with discomfort. And you don't want to know what happened with my bowels. Next time I'll just try fasting!

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on April 28, 2011
at 03:53 PM

First of all, cheers on the lease and best of luck at your interview.

I made this mistake on vacation in Hawaii. Brother's 30th b-day. Had cake, some ice cream, a few glasses of wine. I had been strict lacto-paleo for about 10 months. I basically had to punt the next 2-3 days of my vacation due to the aftermath... (stomach in shambles, gnarly trots, weird cravings, tons of extra phlegm...) It was a complete nightmare.

I'd sooner sandpaper a wildcat's ass then to "cheat" like that again. When I'm feeling frisky now, I just eat a lot more of the food I always eat, roll myself to bed after, and wake up feeling great.

Winning.

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on April 28, 2011
at 01:45 PM

If I know that I want to or will be tempted to cheat, I stop to consider: do I have leeway to be sick for at least a couple of days? Ex. I have two small children - I'm their primary caretaker, so if I went off the rails in a huge way on a Wednesday I'd be paying for it sick AND still responsible for them on Thursday and Friday. However, if I have backup (my husband, my folks, my inlaws, as is usually the case on the weekend) then it may not be as much of an issue.

That said, I usually go off the rails with sugar, not gluten. The spectre of potential gluten-sickness is much worse than a sugar bomb, at least for me.

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(1579)

on April 29, 2011
at 02:04 AM

And me…I can tolerate sugar but not gluten..actually I'm rather happy about that!

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(3417)

on April 28, 2011
at 12:26 PM

MOTHER BEAR'S PIZZA.

The Treasure of Monte Cristo massacres my insides. So worth it.

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(5639)

on April 28, 2011
at 06:05 PM

Ooof. That place is the devil. I used to binge on Rockits (and I have no idea why now, that place is awful!).

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(179)

on April 28, 2011
at 11:47 AM

Me....last night.....hungover today, really bad sleep last night. I knew better but my hubby was in a hurry and so I just went with him to eat whatever. NOT AGAIN!!!!

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on April 28, 2011
at 09:35 AM

Well, I wouldn't say I planned to cheat, but those licorice jelly beans I took from my grandson's Easter basket? BAD idea. The weak, wobbly legs from the sugar crash were unpleasant enough, and the headache that lasted for hours...oi.

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(37227)

on November 06, 2011
at 04:09 PM

Plus the study-of-the-week in the press says licorice has joined the list of things that are bad for you.

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on April 28, 2011
at 06:15 AM

I have a cheat day once a month, I think it is a good thing to do. It makes you realize the foods you've been craving are not that good. I went out with friends and to a local pizza shop, I could only eat 1/2 piece and wound up eating a salad.

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(5136)

on April 28, 2011
at 05:52 AM

ok sure, i get that you might be curious as to whats gonna happen if you eat a pizza after 2 months of good eating. but Domino's? really? aren't you in NYC? Aren't there a million better pizzas in NYC to have than Dominos? Also, why the day before a big job interview?

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(5639)

on April 28, 2011
at 06:06 AM

Believe it or not, alot of the good pizza places were closed. I feel like crap, and this movie I'm watching makes me feel even worse. Why is St. Elmo's Fire widely considered to be a classic? The characters are vapid, money-grubbing future republican a**holes and the plot is so underdeveloped it looks like a 5 year olds... Wow. Wheat is baaaaad. I'm pukey and cranky after half a pizza!

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(5136)

on April 28, 2011
at 06:14 AM

I'm sorry I laughed at your pain, but your description of St. Elmo's Fire just made me laugh again. So you're giving yourself a hangover on puropse and then topping it off by watching a terrible movie? Feeling guilty about something or what?

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on April 28, 2011
at 06:09 PM

well the diet and the movie fit together in some semiotic way. that makes it a meaningful experience after all.

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(1457)

on November 06, 2011
at 05:08 PM

I am not super strict at this point. However, I avoid gluten at all cost (except a beer here and there) and foods cooked in a lot of oils when I go out to eat. At work we go out for lunches about once per month and I sometimes get pasta if its an Italian restaurant... I usually regret it for a couple days. I think next time I might avoid it... I have always considered it to be a test so I go into knowing I won't be firing on all cylinders for a while after. Also, I went to a PF Changs recently and got a lot of meat and a little white rice but forgot about the crazy amount of oil it would be drenched in. I ate it anyhow and of course felt like crap the next day.

My biggest slips are beer. However, if I have just one I cannot notice a major difference. I always try to get something else if there is something decent on selection... nonetheless, sometimes I just want a beer!

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on November 06, 2011
at 02:29 AM

I've been a vegan for 2 months. Went on vaca with husband cheated at bone fish an hour ago with shrimp and crab cakes. I feel like shit. My hands are tingling and I'm really wanting to vomit. Never again will I ever ever cheat. I'm sure it's gonna take a week for my body to feel normal again

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on November 06, 2011
at 07:31 PM

If you are vegan, why are you on this site? No judgement, just curious...

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(5639)

on November 06, 2011
at 08:27 PM

yeah...not quite sure why you're here... Are you researching a potential change to Paleo?

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on April 28, 2011
at 09:56 PM

thanks all for posting your experiences! I've felt so poorly over the last 7 years that these last 3 1/2 months primal have been almost heaven! I occasionally long for pizza but just go make myself one thats primal and I'm a happy gal!

I do worry about upcoming trips and another international relocation to yet another foreign land.....but oh well, I'll live!

I'll live through your experiences and terrors for now!!

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on April 28, 2011
at 02:56 PM

If you decided to be vegetarian and suddenly went back to eating meat (see Gandhi's autobiography for an example) you would have digestion problems. By not cheating every now and then, you are, among other things, only reducing the number of things that your body can't digest. That's ok, I guess. I guess that if you ever found yourself in a situation where you HAD to eat non-paleo (like in an emergency, where you just had to eat what is available, you would quickly re-adjust).

Anyway, don't think that just because you can't eat something after having given it up for some time that that is an automatic indication that it is a "bad" food for you. Like I said, this happens in just about any diet that prohibits certain foods. Nothing special about Paleo on that count.

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(78467)

on April 28, 2011
at 02:57 PM

In Gandhi's case, he accidentally ate some meat, I believe. Been a long time since I read it.

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(1579)

on April 29, 2011
at 02:05 AM

I actually was a vegetarian and even vegan for 20 years and began to eat meat again without issue. I did just dabble in meat for a bit because everyone said I'd get sick, but no problems what so ever.

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on April 29, 2011
at 09:24 PM

That's not my experience. I started eating eggs and meat after a couple of vegetarian (nearly vegan) years and my digestion improved. Far less "wind propulsion" and fewer instances of cramps, bloating.

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(268)

on April 29, 2011
at 09:10 PM

During the emergency, when there were no shops, I ate beans and rice. I felt sick all the time, but I think that was more due to the situation than the food. For me there is a big difference between sugar/gluten products and beans/rice type things.

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on April 28, 2011
at 02:52 PM

The test day for me was Easter. I live with my parents at the moment, and my mother has a food = love mentality. So of course there is candy in ever carafe and plenty of chips/dip and cake. So...... down that rabbit hole I went, and it wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be.

I had the cake, and the chips, and bag of mnm's and a couple of Cadberry eggs. I know this sounds horrible, but I enjoyed it, and didn't feel this horrible weight of guilt settling in. I know I wanted to eat it because it tasted good, and I didn't regret it.

Let me say though that I have never felt horrible after eating crap food, the only general side affect I have always had was a constant case of horrible gas.... and when I say constant.... I do mean constant. I have always had an iron stomach, so for me the change back and forth from Paleo to SAD food hasn't been a drastic one. I feel better when eating healthy, but I don't really feel a sugar crash, or wobbly legs, or anything like that. I don't know what headaches are like, because I rarely get them even when eating crap.... So I don't know if I haven't been hardcore Paleo enough to see the difference but I don't feel one when I cheat, I see the difference. I put on weight in an instant.

excuse the rediculousness of the post, computer is being weird

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on November 06, 2011
at 02:35 AM

No, I haven't felt your particular temptation.

If you are serious about eating poorly, to find out whether doing so would have the effects that one would expect from that, what a lot of unfocused spare time you must have. What if you were to apportion some of it to exploring the effects of eating well?

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(5639)

on November 06, 2011
at 06:13 AM

There must be some award for when your overwhelming negativity and priggishness blinds you from seeing an attempt at lightening the mood through describing a shared experience in a humorous way...

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on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

downvoted then decided to remove the downvote -- but i can't! The arrows take it from -1 to +1. I want to return to neutral -- zero. So don't count my downvote.

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(5639)

on November 06, 2011
at 05:24 PM

In such an experiment, I also like to know what kind of ill-effects backsliding will have. I don't want to have to just believe what others say will happen, and I want to experience it intimately so that maybe it will discourage me from those feelings again. I have cravings occasionally, no matter how strong-willed I like to believe I am. This whole question is a focused attempt at connecting with my fellow paleo-hackers and I think, a very productive use of time. Remember that saying about making asses? Yeah, you shouldn't do that.

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(5639)

on November 06, 2011
at 05:21 PM

I think it's nice that you edited your answer to make it less abusive, however your tone of smug arrogance is still quite evident. I have been "eating well" since January this year, and I'm quite proud of all the effects it has had on me. Technically speaking, this whole endeavor falls into the category of self-experimentation.

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