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Perfect Health Diet

Commented on April 01, 2014
Created March 31, 2014 at 10:05 AM

I have seen quid a few people opine go from paleo to the PHD and seemingly take a more relaxed approach to diet and losing weight.

Is this because stress is much lower drinking wine and eating rice swell as paleo foods or is it people with shitty thyroids being boosted by higher carb intake?

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on April 01, 2014
at 10:24 PM

I'm not mad, I was making fun of you. You get all riled up so fast, it's funny to read through your trail of comments

Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on April 01, 2014
at 03:46 PM

Relax man, you can eat fried rice, I won't beat you up, I promise ;)

A6b302171ad297933107ec7e6abadf39

on April 01, 2014
at 03:44 PM

Just your general attitude.

Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on April 01, 2014
at 03:29 PM

Yes, I did wrestling when I was in high school several years ago. I was in the 152 lb weight class. But I do not see what the hell that has to do with anything being discussed right now....

A6b302171ad297933107ec7e6abadf39

on April 01, 2014
at 02:57 PM

Have you ever done any BJJ, Muay Thai, Boxing, Wrestling. Anything that humbles you as a person?

Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on April 01, 2014
at 02:39 PM

That's how i troll, lol :)

De1095b2ba29c1035f00428cbfe3cc7c

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on April 01, 2014
at 02:17 PM

Yeah fri/sat/sun I usually cheat & have some carbs, but still only up to 100g, but not always 'safe starches' either. Just come the weekend its nice to treat yourself you know ;)

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on April 01, 2014
at 02:08 PM

Trololo

Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on April 01, 2014
at 01:45 PM

@ivymcivy Ha! Aggressive? The only one getting mad here is you lol. Sorry I offended your lord and savior Paul J., I won't do it again. You may go back to eating fried rice now.

Cf08ad26759fdd206a2c9f9385080a57

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on April 01, 2014
at 01:41 PM

Cheat 2-3 days a week? Shit man, that's almost half the time, haha.

Adaptation requires upwards of a month of consistent uninterrupted HFLC. To maintain, a single cheat day can knock you out of stable BHB levels for days.

Although, I think the benefits of carb restriction are fairly even all the way down, the further toward the bottom requires more consistency. I suppose that would be a stressor if you're bouncing around down there on a weekly basis. (Though maybe a hormetic stressor?) Alternate day fasting comes to mind.

De1095b2ba29c1035f00428cbfe3cc7c

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on April 01, 2014
at 01:33 PM

Yeah I've watched that before, i'm well aware from a scientific standpoint that ketogenic diet looks like the best diet, I just have my doubt about its application I guess. Maybe because I cheat 2-3 days a week I haven't had the chance to fully adapt, although i'm always below 100g net carbs regardless, usually about 20g net carbs tho. I seem to alternate between feeling euphoric & mentally sharp and physically lethargic & tired.

A6b302171ad297933107ec7e6abadf39

on April 01, 2014
at 01:33 PM

The perfect health diet has a food apple instead of a pyramid, the leafs are the smallest parts of the diet, one is dark chocolate the other is wine.

Cf08ad26759fdd206a2c9f9385080a57

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on April 01, 2014
at 11:50 AM

I'm pretty confident about the physical benefits in addition to those mental ones, if you can adapt to the diet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC1vMBRFiwE#t=2000

It gets good around 47m.

De1095b2ba29c1035f00428cbfe3cc7c

(777)

on April 01, 2014
at 09:46 AM

I feel better on low carb aswell, mentally, but do wonder if i'm physically stressing my body by not eating some carbs & maybe Jaminet was onto something with the glycoproteins etc. My only theorizing behind this is that if I eat a few carbs I tend to look less tired & gaunt the next day and generally need less sleep. Although when I've actually eaten them they make me ravenous & I can literally feel my chest tighten, vascoconstriction I think. I think Gastronomer is pretty funny myself!

Cf08ad26759fdd206a2c9f9385080a57

(995)

on April 01, 2014
at 03:22 AM

I find the low carb life soothing / relaxing myself, with a good sense of well-being and focus. Something to do with the GABA activation and better access to stable and more efficient energy supplies.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19049594

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17011713

It certainly doesn't feel more aggressive than say a high carb diet with more excitatory neurotransmitter levels and blood sugar / insulin bouncing around all day.

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on April 01, 2014
at 02:51 AM

it is true that 'phd' recommends ('safe') starches...tho the white rice and wine is optional.

tbh, i did not even know that Jaminet recommends or suggests wine, i do have both books, but don't recall from the 1st book & have not read the 2nd book cover to cover

618fc5298c4a96b817c4918c795a875f

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on April 01, 2014
at 01:57 AM

It's not his fault - the lack of carbs in his diet makes him aggressive.

Be803dcde63e3cf5e21cc121097b8158

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on April 01, 2014
at 01:16 AM

Have you read PHD? I don't think there's any reason to be rude to the authors. Paul has been a generous contributor on Paleohacks in the past.

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on March 31, 2014
at 01:30 PM

Can a proper paleo have a glass of red with a balti? The diet that allows that is the one I choose.

Cf08ad26759fdd206a2c9f9385080a57

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on March 31, 2014
at 01:28 PM

Very interesting!

What are the defining features?

I usually recommend PHD to Paleo noobs, as I view that as a subclass of Paleo.

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on March 31, 2014
at 01:27 PM

+1 for snarkiness. But rice was a problem for me.

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on March 31, 2014
at 12:33 PM

PHD is not paleo. And paleo is not PHD either. They share traits, but their defining features make them distinct.

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A6b302171ad297933107ec7e6abadf39

on April 01, 2014
at 02:40 PM

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96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on April 01, 2014
at 02:08 PM

PhD is about minimizing toxins. Carbs are used in that process - i.e. making tears, mucus, etc. Hence, higher carb.

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on April 01, 2014
at 11:16 AM

Paleo Diet is eating good whole unprocessed food, which includes meat, veggies, nuts and many more. Paleo diet comprises of No Gluten, No Grains, No Lugumes, No processes food, No dairy.

The Perfect Health Diet is a high fat, moderate protein, low carb, no sugar diet. Perfect Health Diet gaining health and losing weight optimizing nutrition, detoxifying the diet, and supporting healthy immune function. Perfect health diet basically tells you of optimizing health and trying weight loss effortless with a clear, balanced, and scientifically proven plan.

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on March 31, 2014
at 10:43 PM

i still consider myself a paleo follower even though my diet is mostly phd. i don't eat rice, but i do like the phd "pyramid" of food. i wasn't eating starch until i read the phd. definitely feel better eating it as well as the liver and egg yolks. i also started the supplements paul suggests.

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on March 31, 2014
at 06:49 PM

PHD is not Paleo, it's like a spin-off that originated from something that looked like Paleo, but the guy who came up with it really liked fried rice, and he didn't want to give that up so.....

Be803dcde63e3cf5e21cc121097b8158

(529)

on April 01, 2014
at 01:16 AM

Have you read PHD? I don't think there's any reason to be rude to the authors. Paul has been a generous contributor on Paleohacks in the past.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on April 01, 2014
at 02:08 PM

Trololo

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Cf08ad26759fdd206a2c9f9385080a57

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on March 31, 2014
at 10:52 AM

PHD is a subcategory of Paleo.

If anything, I look at PHD as more rigid guidelines, as it provides some metrics for weights of foods you should be eating, macronutrient and micronutrient ratio ranges they should be consumed in, and puts emphasis on nutrient quantities and supplemental foods / organs. (If you're eating mostly meats / organ meats, you're eating inconsistent with PHD, yet perfectly Paleo.)

You can drink wine / eat rice and not be on a PHD, but if you're on a PHD, you're on a Paleo diet. Similarly, you can be on a Paleo diet, without being on a PHD.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on March 31, 2014
at 12:33 PM

PHD is not paleo. And paleo is not PHD either. They share traits, but their defining features make them distinct.

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on March 31, 2014
at 10:34 AM

Too subjective to answer. If one did not find the paleo diet relaxed ofcourse it could have stressed them out and if one ate paleo in a way that f-ed up their throid ofcourse more carbs could have helped.

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